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Well,just got back from a doggy toilet break total time out about 30 minutes max as it is still very warm here.

You would think that would be easy enough wouldn't you to take 2 very large lurchers for their ablutions but not here where I live.

My boys do not go off lead unless there is no one else around due to the fact that they have poor brakes and noone wants to be run over or into by a 38kg or 35kg

hound running at full speed.I think this is a responsible enough view to take don't you?

Unfortunately more and more I seem to come across absolute IDIOT dog owners who think it is quite funny to see their dogs run aggresively at mine.

Tonight mine were attacked as they passed a house by another,smaller lurcher, whos idiot owner hadnt got it on a lead and not even an apology...amazing.

We then went into the local farmers field and my 2 were just minding their own business,still on leads,when a citroen berlingo stopped at the gate a man got out,opened the back door and let out 3 black labradors who shot though the gate and charged myself and my boys.They careered towards us snarling and barking seemingly intent on mayhem.

Merlin is a 38kg greyhound/deerhound cross with no love of labradors, thanks to previous neighbours idiot pair,and he just went straight into defence mode,much showing of teeth and propelling himself upwards and forwards in his efforts to get off lead whilst I tries my best to control the situation.Blaze the greyhound/saluki cross screamed like a banshee at the mayhem.I managed to hold them and calm them and then the idiot lab owner gave a shout and strolled up the field diagonally to me totally unconcerned!!!His labs followed him a little while later after deciding they had better back off from a dog the size of Merlin.

What a complete and utter idiot...is it me or are these type of owners more common now?

All I want to do is take my boys out quietly,be no problem to anyone and enjoy what used to be my quality time on my own with the hounds but it seems these days that this is not possible.

The joys of dog owning eh?
 
morganna said:
Well,just got back from a doggy toilet break total time out about 30 minutes max as it is still very warm here.
You would think that would be easy enough wouldn't you to take 2 very large lurchers for their ablutions but not here where I live.

My boys do not go off lead unless there is no one else around due to the fact that they have poor brakes and noone wants to be run over or into by a 38kg or 35kg

hound running at full speed.I think this is a responsible enough view to take don't you?

Unfortunately more and more I seem to come across absolute IDIOT dog owners who think it is quite funny to see their dogs run aggresively at mine.

Tonight mine were attacked as they passed a house by another,smaller lurcher, whos idiot owner hadnt got it on a lead and not even an apology...amazing.

We then went into the local farmers field and my 2 were just minding their own business,still on leads,when a citroen berlingo stopped at the gate a man got out,opened the back door and let out 3 black labradors who shot though the gate and charged myself and my boys.They careered towards us snarling and barking seemingly intent on mayhem.

Merlin is a 38kg greyhound/deerhound cross with no love of labradors, thanks to previous neighbours idiot pair,and he just went straight into defence mode,much showing of teeth and propelling himself upwards and forwards in his efforts to get off lead whilst I tries my best to control the situation.Blaze the greyhound/saluki cross screamed like a banshee at the mayhem.I managed to hold them and calm them and then the idiot lab owner gave a shout and strolled up the field diagonally to me totally unconcerned!!!His labs followed him a little while later after deciding they had better back off from a dog the size of Merlin.

What a complete and utter idiot...is it me or are these type of owners more common now?

All I want to do is take my boys out quietly,be no problem to anyone and enjoy what used to be my quality time on my own with the hounds but it seems these days that this is not possible.

The joys of dog owning eh?
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I make the odd mistake - Jasmin the tiniest lttle furball with an OAP owner sat on the bench that I didn't spot. My two 5 month old playhounds ran up to her, sniff and straight past. The owner thought her dog had been mown-down. Little dog fine. Dogs back on leads and everyone sniffing. Owner completely shaken up and I spent several minutes apologising and petting her dog. My two regularly meet tiny pups at the vets puppy party, so I know there is little danger, but she didn't.

As for the 3 labs straight out when he sees yours on the lead - what a plonker! Answer; let yours off so they can sort it out and follow his route so they get together. If Merlin growling and showing his teeth, that's a good thing. Silent, sideways look would be something else! Assuming yours will come back and not panic too much.
 
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I definately think there are more inconsiderate owners, I,ve had quite a few incidents with my retired greyhound who is now terrified of other dogs, her last incident was with labs too, who,s owner was still saying they won.t hurt her as one of them took a chunk out of her side. I now have a body guard for her my little whippet bitch she doesn,t back down from anything, not that she starts anything but she stands her ground,
 
I had the same a couple of days ago, a stupid idiot let all his dogs out of his car without checking if anyone was around. My young whippet spotted a springer and went off to say hello, next thing all hell broke loose as the springer was joined by two more and a load of little things. My pup came back covered in dust and slobber, petrified. These people had no control over their dogs and NO leads with them. There are some planks about who know nothing about dogs. :rant:
 
How I sympathize with you morganna! Don't mean to hi-jack your thread but this afternoon I was walking my whippet Macy through the woods with hubby. She is recovering from a shoulder/rib injury at present so has to be kept on the lead for a while. We saw a chap ahead with two loose terriers so pointedly diverted to the lower path to avoid him. What does the stupid man do? He decides to divert too and take the same path as us!

His two terriers took one look at Macy and just flew at her, snarling and barking. After what seemed an age with dogs whirling round, snapping and barking and Macy screaming, Rob eventually managed to get hold of her and lift her up, - with the man still trying to get control of his horrible animals. We moved her up to the top path and as soon as we put her down we could see that she couldn't put her back leg down on the ground, then when we had a closer look there were teeth marks all over her lower leg and a tear over her hock where she'd tried to pull her leg away. 'Is she alright?' shouted the man, 'No!' we replied, - at which he disappeared!

Will people never learn, - if a dog is being walked on the lead it doesn't want anyone else's dog leaping all over it, let alone attacking it, and why is it that 'out of control' owners always seem to have multiple dogs? It's doubly annoying as I'm still having 'physio' for breaking my arm a few months back when a loose dog dived out of the bushes at us and I got pulled backwards.

Anyway, we got Macy home and bathed her leg with salt water. She is still a bit shaken up by it all but has curled up under her duvet. It's still quite red and angry looking at the moment but we will see how it looks later on after another bathe. She was just beginning to show some improvement before this happened so it's just one step forwards and one step back. Having read all the above posts I know that I'm not alone, but I just feel so cross at the moment as with a little bit of consideration and common sense it could all have been avoided. :angry:
 
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How I sympathize with you morganna! Don't mean to hi-jack your thread but this afternoon I was walking my whippet Macy through the woods with hubby. She is recovering from a shoulder/rib injury at present so has to be kept on the lead for a while. We saw a chap ahead with two loose terriers so pointedly diverted to the lower path to avoid him. What does the stupid man do? He decides to divert too and take the same path as us!
His two terriers took one look at Macy and just flew at her, snarling and barking. After what seemed an age with dogs whirling round, snapping and barking and Macy screaming, Rob eventually managed to get hold of her and lift her up, - with the man still trying to get control of his horrible animals. We moved her up to the top path and as soon as we put her down we could see that she couldn't put her back leg down on the ground, then when we had a closer look there were teeth marks all over her lower leg and a tear over her hock where she'd tried to pull her leg away. 'Is she alright?' shouted the man, 'No!' we replied, - at which he disappeared!

Will people never learn, - if a dog is being walked on the lead it doesn't want anyone else's dog leaping all over it, let alone attacking it, and why is it that 'out of control' owners always seem to have multiple dogs? It's doubly annoying as I'm still having 'physio' for breaking my arm a few months back when a loose dog dived out of the bushes at us and I got pulled backwards.

Anyway, we got Macy home and bathed her leg with salt water. She is still a bit shaken up by it all but has curled up under her duvet. It's still quite red and angry looking at the moment but we will see how it looks later on after another bathe. She was just beginning to show some improvement before this happened so it's just one step forwards and one step back. Having read all the above posts I know that I'm not alone, but I just feel so cross at the moment as with a little bit of consideration and common sense it could all have been avoided. :angry:
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Very sorry to hear about your nasty experience today.I do hope that Macy recovers from both the injuries and the harrowing experience very soon.

I totally agree with you that dogs on leads dont want others leaping on them. We just want to live in peace and be able to go out safely and without running the gauntlet of these morons with their unruly animals.

I hope that your next trip out is far more peaceful :thumbsup:
 
robandkay said:
How I sympathize with you morganna! Don't mean to hi-jack your thread but this afternoon I was walking my whippet Macy through the woods with hubby. She is recovering from a shoulder/rib injury at present so has to be kept on the lead for a while. We saw a chap ahead with two loose terriers so pointedly diverted to the lower path to avoid him. What does the stupid man do? He decides to divert too and take the same path as us!
His two terriers took one look at Macy and just flew at her, snarling and barking. After what seemed an age with dogs whirling round, snapping and barking and Macy screaming, Rob eventually managed to get hold of her and lift her up, - with the man still trying to get control of his horrible animals. We moved her up to the top path and as soon as we put her down we could see that she couldn't put her back leg down on the ground, then when we had a closer look there were teeth marks all over her lower leg and a tear over her hock where she'd tried to pull her leg away. 'Is she alright?' shouted the man, 'No!' we replied, - at which he disappeared!

Will people never learn, - if a dog is being walked on the lead it doesn't want anyone else's dog leaping all over it, let alone attacking it, and why is it that 'out of control' owners always seem to have multiple dogs? It's doubly annoying as I'm still having 'physio' for breaking my arm a few months back when a loose dog dived out of the bushes at us and I got pulled backwards.

Anyway, we got Macy home and bathed her leg with salt water. She is still a bit shaken up by it all but has curled up under her duvet. It's still quite red and angry looking at the moment but we will see how it looks later on after another bathe. She was just beginning to show some improvement before this happened so it's just one step forwards and one step back. Having read all the above posts I know that I'm not alone, but I just feel so cross at the moment as with a little bit of consideration and common sense it could all have been avoided. :angry:
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Sorry to hear of your experience. I am afraid that one thing I have learned is that when you want to avoid someone they will go out of their way to follow you. Seems these idiots are out to cause problems :(
 
robandkay said:
How I sympathize with you morganna! Don't mean to hi-jack your thread but this afternoon I was walking my whippet Macy through the woods with hubby. She is recovering from a shoulder/rib injury at present so has to be kept on the lead for a while. We saw a chap ahead with two loose terriers so pointedly diverted to the lower path to avoid him. What does the stupid man do? He decides to divert too and take the same path as us!
His two terriers took one look at Macy and just flew at her, snarling and barking. After what seemed an age with dogs whirling round, snapping and barking and Macy screaming, Rob eventually managed to get hold of her and lift her up, - with the man still trying to get control of his horrible animals. We moved her up to the top path and as soon as we put her down we could see that she couldn't put her back leg down on the ground, then when we had a closer look there were teeth marks all over her lower leg and a tear over her hock where she'd tried to pull her leg away. 'Is she alright?' shouted the man, 'No!' we replied, - at which he disappeared!

Will people never learn, - if a dog is being walked on the lead it doesn't want anyone else's dog leaping all over it, let alone attacking it, and why is it that 'out of control' owners always seem to have multiple dogs? It's doubly annoying as I'm still having 'physio' for breaking my arm a few months back when a loose dog dived out of the bushes at us and I got pulled backwards.

Anyway, we got Macy home and bathed her leg with salt water. She is still a bit shaken up by it all but has curled up under her duvet. It's still quite red and angry looking at the moment but we will see how it looks later on after another bathe. She was just beginning to show some improvement before this happened so it's just one step forwards and one step back. Having read all the above posts I know that I'm not alone, but I just feel so cross at the moment as with a little bit of consideration and common sense it could all have been avoided. :angry:
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Hope you and Macy heal soon :thumbsup: I've just had an experience to entitled will the police enforce dog laws
 
Thanks for your comments. Macy is feeling better today, though got quite anxious when we took her for a short walk and she spotted two loose collies!

Still bathing her back leg but it looks a little less red and swollen today though still sore. Hopefully it will heal OK, - and the bite marks will fade!

Thinking of all the things I should have said to the other dog owner now, but to be honest all I could think of was my dog!

Thanks again.x
 
I can really sympathise with you, we have a few experiences with out of control dogs and owners who don't really seem that bothered by it. A couple of weeks ago we had been a forest walk and arrived back at the visitor centre car park, two huge boxer/mastiff type dogs jumped out a car and went right for Penny. They had her at each side and I could see her skin getting stretched out, I will never forget the screams that came from her. I am amazed no blood was drawn and I think the only reason was the were so intent on getting her they just grabbed the first bit they could get and she managed to spin round a little and the owner appeared quickly. His excuse was he never noticed we had a dog! even then her wasn't very apologetic.

It is getting rather annoying that people can't walk their dog without it getting harassed. A few weeks before a collie approached her, hed butted her, snarling and showing its teeth and all the owner could say was something like come back over, I was so taken a back I didn't say anything. About two years I was out walking and two terriers ran up to her and one bit her right away, she managed to slip her collar and run, they had escaped from a garden as the gate had blew down in the wind. This time the owner couldn't apologise more, he paid for the vet bill (10 stitches) and bought her some treats. Everytime we have run ins with other dog it has always been when Penny has been on her lead doing not harm at all. I can understand how you are all feeling, there is nothing worse than seeing your own dog who has done nothing wrong terrified because of irresponsible people.
 
Must be something to do with lab owners. We have a woman with 3 labs who thinks it is ok to let them wander round terrorissing all the other dogs while she gossips to her friend on the phone. They terrified Simba the other month since a newfie pup jumped on him he is very wary of black dogs and fluffy dogs who are bigger than him and when I asked her to call her dogs away she just said if my dogs were frightened then that was my problem. She soon called them away when I pulled my phone out of my pocket and said I was calling the dog warden and reporting her for having her dogs dangerously out of control. My dogs were both on leads and walking quietly at my side as we were quite near to a busy main road.
 
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morganna said:
Well,just got back from a doggy toilet break total time out about 30 minutes max as it is still very warm here.

You would think that would be easy enough wouldn't you to take 2 very large lurchers for their ablutions but not here where I live.

My boys do not go off lead unless there is no one else around due to the fact that they have poor brakes and noone wants to be run over or into by a 38kg or 35kg

hound running at full speed.I think this is a responsible enough view to take don't you?

Unfortunately more and more I seem to come across absolute IDIOT dog owners who think it is quite funny to see their dogs run aggresively at mine.

Tonight mine were attacked as they passed a house by another,smaller lurcher, whos idiot owner hadnt got it on a lead and not even an apology...amazing.

We then went into the local farmers field and my 2 were just minding their own business,still on leads,when a citroen berlingo stopped at the gate a man got out,opened the back door and let out 3 black labradors who shot though the gate and charged myself and my boys.They careered towards us snarling and barking seemingly intent on mayhem.

Merlin is a 38kg greyhound/deerhound cross with no love of labradors, thanks to previous neighbours idiot pair,and he just went straight into defence mode,much showing of teeth and propelling himself upwards and forwards in his efforts to get off lead whilst I tries my best to control the situation.Blaze the greyhound/saluki cross screamed like a banshee at the mayhem.I managed to hold them and calm them and then the idiot lab owner gave a shout and strolled up the field diagonally to me totally unconcerned!!!His labs followed him a little while later after deciding they had better back off from a dog the size of Merlin.

What a complete and utter idiot...is it me or are these type of owners more common now?

All I want to do is take my boys out quietly,be no problem to anyone and enjoy what used to be my quality time on my own with the hounds but it seems these days that this is not possible.

The joys of dog owning eh?
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Sorry replied to Rob and kays without including yours. yes there are a lot of dog owning idiots around and thats quite apart from my experience today (for which I have started a separate thread). We have had numerous run ins similar to yours and ours today where nobody seems to be aware of dog laws. I've had dogs off lead running up to mine numerous times and asked people to get their dog under control most do but some can be quite rude and speak to me as If its my dogs with the problem, when they are barking back and understandably annoyed. Prior to today I was seriously considring actually carrying with me a print out of the dog law and handing it to anyone who has an out of control dog, alternatively laminating a print out and going round all the local parks and sticking it to the poo bins. But after today I'm not even sure that is worth doing. i think it should be law that everybody who has a dog at some point do puppy classes and the dog law should be incorperated into the class becasue sadly too many people are unaware, or maybe they just don't care?
 
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It is disgusting indeed. When I go walking, I take a 'walking stick'. It's amazing how quickly some people get their dog under control as they realise they are reaching 'walking stick' range.
 
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It is disgusting indeed. When I go walking, I take a 'walking stick'. It's amazing how quickly some people get their dog under control as they realise they are reaching 'walking stick' range.
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A walking stick is an excellent idea for would-be furry problems :thumbsup:

I think I'm prety lucky. We (Mel, Kim, Chloe and me) know most of the local dogs now. Sid (Jack Russell), Jake (Malmute cross Husky), Kenny and son (Black labs), the two daft red setters, the frightened big black thing that isn't as scared as the owner thinks (and is all over Mel, kissy kissy), various allegedly scared greyhounds that are actually soft as grease and soon settle when we walk the same way with them, Spit the dog, two collies that growl, but stop when Mel puts her ears down and comes to my knee, then they mix, the couple with pulling woofy dogs that stop pulling and don't woof to meet ours, bloke (with problems they just let out) and rotty who are brilliant - young rotty is a very nice dog and man loves her to bits etc etc.

Old bloke with crooked back and nasty old bitch (dog!) to be avoided, but he keeps her on the lead.

Only one problem guy with two terriers who doesn't understand greyhounds. I'll catch up with him and get the whole lot running together sooner or later. Only seen him once.

Not seen Jasmine again :(
 
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it can be a pain with idiots who are novices, this is my story about mine, im in scotland and fields all around so thats where i mainly go with dogs of lead, its pot luck if all dogs are offlead so it helps to have a good eye, when on lead and a dog comes up snarling he gets a rap on the nose, it can be hard but let all keep safe out there. :thumbsup:
 
i know just what you mean, i have 3 rescue lurchers and a saluki which i have had from a pup who fears nothing! i was out walking my four boys last week when an old inconsiderate idiot let his 2 collies loose on the field where i had my boys on the lead, his collies decided to circle me snarling a lunging forwards snapping at me and my dogs at this point he was strolling round the other side of the field!!!! so i thought sod this my three rescues where terriefied whilst my saluki was going for all out warfare. luckily another couple on the field (whos dog was on a lead) came to my rescue and between the 5 of us gave the old man a good talking too, bet he did the same thing the following day though
 
Some horrible experiences - thinking I might dig out my walking stick to be prepared! How is Macy now? Healed in body and spirit I hope?
 
on friday evening we were at the beach with karma and we had a lovely time, it was raining a bit, [cornish mizzle] we didnt see a single soul it was lovely till on the way back!! in the distance i could see 3 people and 3 dogs one of the dogs is a huge german shepherd!!! paul was holding karma and i had the ball chucker thing in my hand, as we got closer i could see the GSD was not going to just pass us he walked quickly toward us with his hackles up and stuck his nose straight up karmas bum lifting her, i stepped in front and pushed him with my knee at the same time karma just wanted to rip his head off, i then put my ball chucker thing between him and her and pushed him again, [i was getting a bit worried now cos this dog is huge] the young woman then came running toward me shouting dont you dare hit my dog with that!! [she had a chucker too, lol, i was imagining a big stand off between me and her with these chuckers but mine was longer!!] i replied that i was not hitting him just keeping him aaway from karma as he was very aggressive the big man and old lady that was with her then started by saying hes not aggresssive hes lovely all he wants to do is say hello, [£1 for everytime i have heard that please!] we were then having the usual argument about who lives where and why dont they just pack up and go home, turns out they are locals, lol, now i wish we had of had the staffys with us because when people see them they tend to put their dogs on leads!!! anyway i was shaking and really angry as i thought the whole experience was unneccesary. now this or similar happens nearly everyday and im sick of it!! when will people become more responsible??? the GSD in this case should deffo be on a lead at all times as when he was shouted on by the owner he tottally ignored her over and over again, dont think i would let a dog off lead without control!!
 
Sounds like a worrying encounter Tiggermould - I would have been shaking too. Our grey is our first family dog so I'm still learning as I go, but it baffles me that people say 'Oh s/he's just being friendly!' when their dog has just behaved in a way that - as far as I can tell from talking to experienced owners, reading etc - breaks so many rules of dog etiquette! Mine is often met by overly friendly dogs but their approach usually signals that all is well and the bum sniffing is polite if enthusiastic :D At other times tho, dogs come charging over, slam into her, try to get a quick sniff under her coat and then its paw over the back time! By this point, owners in the know are usually telling their dogs in no uncertain terms to cut it out, or if I body block their dog off, all is taken in good humour as just making sure the dogs play nice. Some owners, tho, as you say, behave as tho their dog is just doing the normal doggy thing :eek: and don't seem to get that in fact their dog is being rude in dog terms (as well as human ones!)

That said, most dog people that I've met - with one or two notable exceptions! - have been really great, and helped me and my girl in getting used to being together. I might just have been lucky so far, but I like to think it's really cos most of us dog people are great :lol: ;)
 
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