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Glad she's OK! *sends Gypsy a bunch of virtual flowers, and something nice to chew on to help her get over her op*

Gill x
 
:)) Glad she's well and the worry is over!

Fly says 'roast chicken always does the trick to help everything heal well'!' o:)
 
Only just caught up with this thread.

Glad everything went well and Gypsy is back home recovering. :huggles:
 
Glad she's home again and recovering well from her op.

It's amazing how quickly they get back to normal.

:luck: and :huggles: for Gypsy
 
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Glad to hear that Gypsy is o.k. It's hard not to worry though! I stayed with both of mine when they were spayed, it only took about 10 minutes, amazing.

When you think if it was us we'd be laid up for weeks & they are raring to go 24 hours later. Now all you've got to do is keep her quiet for 2 weeks (w00t)
 
:wub: :huggles: to Gypsy, glad it's over, hope she keeps still for you for the next (?) 2 weeks , speedy recovery o:)
 
:wub: bless her :huggles: she will soon be running around :huggles:
 
~whitecross whippets~ said:
gypsy is going to be spayed today...the vet says she is sexually and physically mature a good weight and in good health.

for us as a family now is the right time for reasons such as holidays/hospital appointments with my son/school holidays etc...and with the vets advice plus my personal reasons plus having monty who is not castrated and growing up fast i have decided now is the right time.

i believe as she isnt having pups then being spayed is the right thing to do...it was just choosing the best time

please keep your fingers crossed and send positive thought for her :wub:

my vet says he has done thousands of these ops ...has much experience with sighthounds and has gone into great detail with me which drugs will be used all the way through (i think i have drove him round the twist :lol: ) but i am happy she will be ok :huggles:

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AS I BRED GYPSY

I find it very worrying that vets can say a bitch is mature even though she's not had her first season and is only just 8 months old. Tilly (gypsies sister) is certainly not mature in any sense of the word. I totally understand and respect your reason for having her spayed kaz, but i certainly woundn't have a bitch of mine spayed before her first season, and i definately wouldn't recommend anyone else too, like i mentioned it to you at crufts.

I blame the vet
 
Glad to hear gypsy is well. :luck:

Kaz i,m quite surprised the vet has done it only as you know our Teya is her sister and with them both being only 8 months my vet has told me to wait till she has had her first season and by which time will be that little bit older he said that whilst it's still a pup let it be a pup and the time will come.

I know you must have your reason's but i think a lot of vets think [SIZE=14pt]MONEY ££££[/SIZE]

Teya says :huggles: to her sister
 
mally said:
~whitecross whippets~ said:
gypsy is going to be spayed today...the vet says she is sexually and physically mature a good weight and in good health.

for us as a family now is the right time for reasons such as holidays/hospital appointments with my son/school holidays etc...and with the vets advice plus my personal reasons plus having monty who is not castrated and growing up fast i have decided now is the right time.

i believe as she isnt having pups then being spayed is the right thing to do...it was just choosing the best time

please keep your fingers crossed and send positive thought for her :wub:

my vet says he has done thousands of these ops ...has much experience with sighthounds and has gone into great detail with me which drugs will be used all the way through (i think i have drove him round the twist :lol: ) but i am happy she will be ok :huggles:

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AS I BRED GYPSY

I find it very worrying that vets can say a bitch is mature even though she's not had her first season and is only just 8 months old. Tilly (gypsies sister) is certainly not mature in any sense of the word. I totally understand and respect your reason for having her spayed kaz, but i certainly woundn't have a bitch of mine spayed before her first season, and i definately wouldn't recommend anyone else too, like i mentioned it to you at crufts.

I blame the vet

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anyone who decides to spay their bitch should make a decision based on all the imformation available and also consider the research evidence regarding the pros and cons of spaying before a first season

along with these considerarations are personal circumstances and opinions

i know that for decades bitches have been spayed at 6 months (and earlier) and i also know that imo there is still very little evidence to say it causes any problems at all

my only concern was to try to get her to be as fully grown as possible and in good health and with a bit of weight on her as i do know sighthounds can be complicated under anaesthetic...that is a fact i do believe is very important to consider

however i would not disagree that in ideal circumstances waiting until after their first season is preferable ..i had tried to explain in my first post why i hadnt

do not blame the vet ...i made up my own mind....on a daily basis i make decisions for my son that may cause him to live or die so i had hoped you thought i was capable and educated enough to make a decision for gypsy :(

btw i had hoped not to get into all this either on this thread...i had hoped people who could would just wish gypsy well and those who couldnt just didnt say anything ...ive had enough abuse since joining k9 on my opinions regarding neutering
 
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thanks to everyone who has asked about gypsy :thumbsup:

she went for a check up today and she is fine :) ....almost back to her old self :wub: they recover so quick! ;)
 
i know that for decades bitches have been spayed at 6 months (and earlier) and i also know that imo there is still very little evidence to say it causes any problems at all
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How can this be if the bitch has not fully matured there have got to be problems later on, you are tampering with nature.

You already know my opinion about neutering :- "

.ive had enough abuse since joining k9 on my opinions regarding neutering
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If you cant stand the heat then you should stay out of the fire

We should all be able to debate this subject with out it getting nasty, which I seem to rmember from the last time it was talked about, it was me that took the brunt of the abuse from you!
 
dawn said:
i know that for decades bitches have been spayed at 6 months (and earlier) and i also know that imo there is still very little evidence to say it causes any problems at all
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How can this be if the bitch has not fully matured there have got to be problems later on, you are tampering with nature.

You already know my opinion about neutering :- "

.ive had enough abuse since joining k9 on my opinions regarding neutering
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If you cant stand the heat then you should stay out of the fire

We should all be able to debate this subject with out it getting nasty, which I seem to rmember from the last time it was talked about, it was me that took the brunt of the abuse from you!

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look dawn i am not going to be sucked into another arguement with you or anyone about neutering....i really have far more important things to worry about.

there a millions of people who would agree with you and millions who would agree with me....so cant we agree to disagree?

its not a crime to have an opinion that dosent match others although on k9 sometimes you would think it was

i really enjoy k9 and sometimes i think the fact i had an arguement with you and several people about neutering is something that you and others are never going to forget...

i was new to k9 at the time and i got bombarded by people who have the same opinion as you and i dont think anyone was that tolerant of my views if i remember rightly ..

personally i have no problem with you or anyone on k9

i have tried to apologise .. if i did have an attitude and made comments in a less than tolerant manner on that occasion (which actually was a long time ago now) but obviously noone is interested in forgetting about it as i found out at crufts.

i give up now.. :(

btw nature is not always kind.....all medicine/surgery is tampering with nature... dont you agree with that either?
 
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Opinions on neutering seems to be so emotive, but I do feel people are entitled to their own opinions and decisions, and a lot depends on personal circumstances. :- "

I don't know the pros and cons of spaying at a young age (prior to the first season) but Whitecross Whippets has obviously thought about this at length and chosen the best course of action for Gypsy and the family circumstances etc.

Just out of interest, when owners decide to mate a bitch, if the bitch subsequently needs a ceasarian section is this also "tampering with nature".
 
~whitecross whippets~ said:
thanks everyone for your kind wishes :huggles:
well she is  fine :D ...i left her about 9.45 am and picked her up just after 1pm :sweating: ...she is very quiet but eating and drinking and walking just fine :huggles:

she has double stitching so no stitches can be pulled out (so no hideous collar needed hopefully!) and they will dissolve in time...and has a dressing on too and she hasnt touched it so far o:)

she is very brave :wub: well done baby :*

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Typical female-we havn't got time to be ill you know! She will be fine of course ( esp. when her fur grows back!). Have found in my experience animals only give you 'evils' if they are male & youve just got them castrated. ;)
 
boothros said:
~whitecross whippets~ said:
thanks everyone for your kind wishes :huggles:
well she is  fine :D ...i left her about 9.45 am and picked her up just after 1pm :sweating: ...she is very quiet but eating and drinking and walking just fine :huggles:

she has double stitching so no stitches can be pulled out (so no hideous collar needed hopefully!) and they will dissolve in time...and has a dressing on too and she hasnt touched it so far o:)

she is very brave :wub: well done baby :*

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Typical female-we havn't got time to be ill you know! She will be fine of course ( esp. when her fur grows back!). Have found in my experience animals only give you 'evils' if they are male & youve just got them castrated. ;)

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ps this last comment was an attempt at comedy rather than any reply to your pro/con debate which I have only just discovered after scrolling. This is an emotive subject not least helped by the fact that I know at least 2 vets whos 'professional' opinions differ as to whether to spey or not before the first season. At the end of the day the only person who is responsible for the welfare and ownership of your beloved dog is you & you must do what you feel is right. I get on very well with my bitches breeder & trust her inplicitly, but bitch speying has no place in her kennel (she does not over breed her bitches) even tho I am aware that this op prevents unwanted pups, difficult seasons, mammary cancer etc. Years ago we used to believe in 'just letting her have the one litter first' before speying a bitch & it was much the same with horses - let her have a foal and all her female problem will be solved. I hope things have moved on since then, the spey is a regular, responsible, & successful op & I wish Gypsy the very best. :thumbsup:
 
boothros said:
boothros said:
~whitecross whippets~ said:
thanks everyone for your kind wishes :huggles:
well she is  fine :D ...i left her about 9.45 am and picked her up just after 1pm :sweating: ...she is very quiet but eating and drinking and walking just fine :huggles:

she has double stitching so no stitches can be pulled out (so no hideous collar needed hopefully!) and they will dissolve in time...and has a dressing on too and she hasnt touched it so far o:)

she is very brave :wub: well done baby :*

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Typical female-we havn't got time to be ill you know! She will be fine of course ( esp. when her fur grows back!). Have found in my experience animals only give you 'evils' if they are male & youve just got them castrated. ;)

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ps this last comment was an attempt at comedy rather than any reply to your pro/con debate which I have only just discovered after scrolling. This is an emotive subject not least helped by the fact that I know at least 2 vets whos 'professional' opinions differ as to whether to spey or not before the first season. At the end of the day the only person who is responsible for the welfare and ownership of your beloved dog is you & you must do what you feel is right. I get on very well with my bitches breeder & trust her inplicitly, but bitch speying has no place in her kennel (she does not over breed her bitches) even tho I am aware that this op prevents unwanted pups, difficult seasons, mammary cancer etc. Years ago we used to believe in 'just letting her have the one litter first' before speying a bitch & it was much the same with horses - let her have a foal and all her female problem will be solved. I hope things have moved on since then, the spey is a regular, responsible, & successful op & I wish Gypsy the very best. :thumbsup:

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thankyou :thumbsup:
 
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