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would love advise on speying, i have a 6 month old whippet bitch

vet advises on speying.

would love advise and options
 
donna barr said:
would love advise on speying, i have a 6 month old whippet bitchvet advises on speying.

would love advise and options

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Have a look in the FAQ section, what ever advise you get remember its your dog and you have to do whats right for you and your pup...

Good luck
 
Just for the record, my pup (shes 13 months) is having her first season when finished i will be having her speyed

I think most people advise speying at least after their first season
 
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None of mine have ever been spayed, i dont agree with it none of had any womb infections or anything like that, all my oldies have lived to 14 & 12 and both had to be put to sleep through stroke related illnesses, a lady got in touch with me last year who"d bought a pup off us and her vet wanted to spey her at 3 months, i told her if she wanted her spaying to wait untill after her 1st season, she hasnt had it done.
 
Paula Roberts said:
None of mine have ever been spayed, i dont agree with it none of had any womb infections or anything like that, all my oldies have lived to 14 & 12 and both had to be put to sleep through stroke related illnesses, a lady got in touch with me last year who"d bought a pup off us and her vet wanted to spey her at 3 months, i told her if she wanted her spaying to wait untill after her 1st season, she hasnt had it done.
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do you think spaying would affect their racing ability? any evidence pro or con?
 
No i dont believe it affects there racing ability, i know quite a few race dogs who have been speyed, say after having a litter and they seem fine.
 
Hiya, Ibeleive it is sensible to wait until after first season if poss. Friend had bitch done before and she has never really developed in body, depth or muscle in fact at 5 she could be mistaken for a youngster, :- " jan
 
Can I just ask one question??

Why do you want her speyed???
 
i too would wait until after the first season,when i had one of mine done at 6 months she was very sore and fretful after the op ,she couldnt climb the stairs for a good week later was off her food,she also was very hyper and puppy like and is only just settling down now been 2 years old.

i also had my other whippet done on the same day ,she was 16 months old and what a difference ,she was just her old self straight away.

i had mine done as i didnt want to breed from them,so saves them having to be kept in every 6 months or so and also saves them going through phantom pregnancies,as some bitches are prone to them,(ive had three bitches display phantoms after every season)and there not nice for the dogs.
 
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As the breeder of this bitch I have advised Donna against spaying at such an early stage. I do not agree with the practice. I feel vets are again thinking about their pockets, not the welfare of the dog. The hormone balance of the bitch must be allowed to develop naturally. I have first hand experience of the result of this not happening.

I know we live in a time where people expect things neatly packaged and that a bitch in season can be a messy difficult time (I have 6 bitches). That's nature and it happens for a reason. Yes that is primarily about procreation but, it is also part of the bitch's health cycle. If it's not broken it don't need fixed.

Donna this is not a get at you. You are right to ask around and then you can make an informed choice. J.
 
NO NO No !!!! Do not get a 6 month old bitch speyed!! Never mind what vets advise, as Jean Dunbar says, they are thinking of their pockets. Never have it done before a season, and preferably not till later than that if at all. I have seen a bitch I bred done too early, she is fat (like a Labrador) however little food she gets, and had problems with house training, in fact the idiots who bought her and had the op done brought her back to me at 2 years old because she "widdles in the night" Fortunately she has been adopted by a caring family who can cope with her. But I still feel that she has missed out on her potentially long active life that she should have had.

People should not buy bitch puppies if they cannot cope with seasons, in my opinion.

I must admit to having had 8 year olds done after they have had a litter, so that they no longer have to be shut away for their seasons, and do not risk pyometras. By that age they do not seem to suffer any side effects.
 
My bitch is 11 months now, had her first season a few months ago. Im not intending to her have speyed as I want to breed from her in future. As a first time bitch owner I found her season to be nothing near as bad as some people had led me to believe.

People tend to be very for or very against! I think if she isnt too hard to deal with during her seasons then why bother? And I would definately NOT have her done till after she has had her first one at least.

A very contencious (sp) issue indeed :- " !
 
Hi Donna,

There's some interesting reading here for you: FAQ - neutering and other issues ie seasons which have lots of for and against discussions about spaying in general.

Whatever the arguments for or against neutering at all, I certainly agree with not having a bitch spayed until after at least one season, for the reasons other more experienced dog owners have already given :thumbsup: If you do decide to have it done, then at least wait until your bitch is more mature.
 
I have 3 bitches and apart from the time out from racing(for Spry mainly)I don't think seasons are that bad at all they all keep themselves very clean, which the mess is only temporary anyway, things have changed since we got our boy and because so far he has been young and the older girls wouldn't entertain him things have gone ok with that too, I did have to have eyes in the back of my head but it was my choice to get a boy so I expected that :thumbsup:

I'm not against speying I think its the owners individual choice(not the vets decision to make unless for medical reasons) but I just thought I'd give my experiences of seasons so you know what to expect, incase you thought speying would stop a bad situation, its not so bad :)
 
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whether the risk of a pyometre is very low or very high, i wouldnt want my dog going through it.

i have seen what the infection can do to a healthy bitch and i wanted to totally rule that out. so i just had Flo speyed at 18 months, she had about 3 seasons.

i wanted to wait, i wanted an adult mature bitch and a healthy bitch. i do not believe in neutering animals below the age of 12 months. i have seen effects of a bitch thats been speyed too early and a bitch that hadnt been speyed at all. so hopefully i have done the middle ground thing!

its the owners decision, but just think and dont rush into anything. please wait til your girl has matured, its worth waiting.

vets like to spey earlier because its easier- the young bitch has nice tight neat womb and bits, its clean and easier to do. the older the bitch, the more risk that theres internal bleeding as the tubes are softer and easier to tear etc, and theres more fat getting in their way!

good luck- and come back if you need more info!
 
dawn said:
Can I just  ask one question??
Why do you want her speyed???

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my vet advises she gets speyed it's for the best!,also i have a 10 child who walks the dog

and we have lots of bad owners who let their dogs wander around the streets

i don't want her getting attacked by dogs looking to get the pup.

our pup is a pet not a racer and i only want the best for her and the family

also.

we are also looking at a whippet dog at a shelter who needs a good home.
 
donna barr said:
i don't want her getting attacked by dogs looking to get the pup.
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Out of curiosity, what difference does the vet think spaying would make to this ? :wacko: Personally I don't think children should walk dogs unsupervised in any situation, for the protection of both your own and other people's dogs, and the child itself.
 
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moriarte said:
donna barr said:
i don't want her getting attacked by dogs looking to get the pup.
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Out of curiosity, what difference does the vet think spaying would make to this ? :wacko: Personally I don't think children should walk dogs unsupervised in any situation, for the protection of both your own and other people's dogs, and the child itself.

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Absolutely! Dogs should always be under control of a responsible adult.
 
Seraphina said:
moriarte said:
donna barr said:
i don't want her getting attacked by dogs looking to get the pup.
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Out of curiosity, what difference does the vet think spaying would make to this ? :wacko: Personally I don't think children should walk dogs unsupervised in any situation, for the protection of both your own and other people's dogs, and the child itself.

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Absolutely! Dogs should always be under control of a responsible adult.

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Definitely - my girls are 11 and 14, and I wouldn't let them walk my whippets alone :blink: They don't have full control, don't have the maturity to deal with any situations which may arise with other dogs/people, and it's too much responsibility to put on them. Let alone the fear that whippets are highly nickable and it would be so easy for a wrong'un to simply take your dog from your child. Unlikely, but still a possibility you have to consider.

It would devastate your child if anything happened while they were in charge, they would never get over it. I was partly responsible for my cat getting run over, I was 26, and I have never ever forgiven myself or really got over that experience :( so imagine what it would be like for a child :(

Please do a bit more reading and research before you allow yourself to go with your vet's decision. The dog is yours and therefore it's your decision to make :thumbsup:
 
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