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Got a daughter invited for this now.

Watched a documentary about it on TV, read the letter from school nurse, chatted with other mums.

One thing that niggles me is the way the company that make the vaccine recently got hammered for damages (to do with another drug) then suddenly come up with this 'miracle jab' to stop cervical Ca, and immediately become the big heroes.

Apparently it needs to be given before the virus gets in your body, ie before you become sexually active, but hitting EVERY 12 yr old girl seems a bit much to me, oh don't get me wrong, I work in the antenatal field and in a location that unfortunately has the HIGHEST teen pregnancy rate in EUROPE so I know what goes on, but I think I might wait a while to see what happens..................

what do any other parents/guardians think ?
 
There is a school near me that have banned the injection being given at the school,as last year when the school was used for a pilot study for the vaccine a number of girls were absent the next day with dizziness, nausea, joint pain, headaches or high temperature. They feel the injection should be given at a doctors and not at the school.having read this yesterday i am also interested to see what happens ,as my daughter falls in to the 12-18 age for the injection .
 
I have two girls who this would apply too. I would definitely have the vaccination done.
 
My daughters will both have the vaccine..i faced CC last year and had to have what was there removed..it was the scariest time of my life. I have only ever had 1 partner..and 19y on i am still married to him..yet i faced this horrible disease. I have watched people die that i know to this disease and some of them very, very young. I personally dont want to take the chance with my girls..an excellent site on the facts is here.. http://www.jotrust.co.uk/

A girl on there, recently married, 22y old with a baby has just died from this terrible illness. :(
 
My daughter is having it done. It is a straightforward vaccination against a virus, and she has had plenty of these before with no problems. It is not anti cancer, just anti the virus that could potentially cause this cancer. The pilot study has been ongoing for 6 years, and we are the last major country to start vaccinating the girls. It is hoped that it will save 400 women's lives a year, and I think they are fortunate to be able to have it.
 
My daughter got her first jab yesterday. Her arm is still sore, but she's fine.

She was asked by the nurse if she wanted the jab, if she knew why she was getting it, I let my daughter decide if she got it or not.

I was given a hard time from a close friend of mine as she has terminal cancer (overies etc) as I let Rachel decide of she got it as she wishes she had that choice 20 odd yrs ago.

I hope to hell it's SAFE :sweating:
 
I think the whole point of having it at 12 is to catch the vast majority of girls before they are sexually active ...... leave it another 2 or 3 years and there will definitely be girls contracting the virus who needn't have.

It really is no different from giving the german measles vaccine to girls of a similar age - this is no threat at all to the girls themselves but could be devastating to their children if contracted early in pregnancy. So, catch them well before they are likely to be pregnant and unnecessary suffering can be prevented. This vaccination programme has been going on for years without objections, why would this new vaccine be any different?
 
well im not a parent or a guardian but im 17 and as far as i know i just fall into the catergory whereby i can have the injection.

i dont know what my parents views are on the subject they dont really know much about it appart from the advert on the telly :S so i googled it :p

i am without a doubt having it if i can...id rather not run the rish of CC for the sake of a day or two of feeling lousy.....to many people die of cancer every year and if by some miracle it can protect me then in my opinion that outweighs any risks which may be associated with it. :) ...although the thought of multiple needles terrifies me :p

does anyone know how those 16+ go about getting it? will our GP contact me? or will i need to do so myself?

xxx
 
I think you'll probably be contacted in autumn 2009 but check with your GP because you might fall out of the age bracket at that point.

Worth reading HPV Vaccine

It should be noted that regardless of whether you have the vaccine or not, you should still go for smear tests.
 
xxxamyxxx said:
well im not a parent or a guardian but im 17 and as far as i know i just fall into the catergory whereby i can have the injection.
i dont know what my parents views are on the subject they dont really know much about it appart from the advert on the telly :S so i googled it  :p

i am without a doubt having it if i can...id rather not run the rish of CC for the sake of a day or two of feeling lousy.....to many people die of cancer every year and if by some miracle it can protect me then in my opinion that outweighs any risks which may be associated with it. :) ...although the thought of multiple needles terrifies me :p

does anyone know how  those 16+ go about getting it? will our GP contact me? or will i need to do so myself?

xxx

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As far as I know you are towards the end of the queue. My eldest is 15 and she will have a longer wait. They are starting with the youngsters of 12 first. Although around us there are no signs of vaccinations starting yet.
 
My daughter is 18, had she had the chance of this at

12, i think maybe it would have been a good idea to

take it along with the other vaccinations :)
 
im quite glad that my little girl is 4, and wont be offered this for a good few years yet. im always funny with jags since i heard of my mums friends little boy who got the mmr and 2 days later he stoped talking and started acting a bit strange. turns out he ended up with autisum, and their neighbours boy who got the mmr the same day in the same doctors an hour later and 2days later exactly the same thing.

iv not really looked into it, but i was speaking to my mum about this and she was saying its to stop the genital warts virus, which can cause cervical cancer. so why not give it to boys aswell, stamp out this wart visus altogether???

seems a bit strange to me :b
 
k4tie-d said:
im quite glad that my little girl is 4, and wont be offered this for a good few years yet. im always funny with jags since i heard of my mums friends little boy who got the mmr and 2 days later he stoped talking and started acting a bit strange. turns out he ended up with autisum, and their neighbours boy who got the mmr the same day in the same doctors an hour later and 2days later exactly the same thing.
iv not really looked into it, but i was speaking to my mum about this and she was saying its to stop the genital warts virus, which can cause cervical cancer. so why not give it to boys aswell, stamp out this wart visus altogether???

seems a bit strange to me :b

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The vaccination is to prevent the HPV virus. There are over a hundred types of hpv virus about three of which can lead to cervical cancer. The vaccination is to protect against these three. Not everybody who develops the hpv virus will get cervical cancer. Statistics show that around 70% of people who develop the hpv virus will have it clear up without any treatment. Of the rest there are only a small percentage that actually have pre-cancerous cells. Although some people will undergo treatment to remove hpv cells even though they are not of a cancerous nature. It is said that most people will develop hpv at some time in their lives.

I think vaccination is a good thing. There are people who suffer serious side effects and obviously for them it has caused major problems but weigh that against the people it saves.

Back in 1987 I went for the first time to Tunisia. Whilst this is a major tourist destination it is still classified as part of the third world. I will never forget walking along the road in one of the more remote places and seeing a man at the side of the road begging. He was blind and had twisted, stunted limbs. I had taken my mum with me as a treat and turned to her and asked what the matter was with him. I was told it was the result of polio.

We take for granted today that we are not threatened by diseases such as polio. Had we not set up such a rigourous vaccination programme diseases such as these would still exist in our country. I feel lucky that I had the opportunity to have my children vaccinated whilst they were little.

I also remember quite vividly the vaccinations I had to have before I went on holiday there, typhoid, cholera, diptheria, tetnus and polio. The side effects of typhoid and cholera were quite nasty. I spent about three days suffering from them. Having seen first hand what the actual diseases can do I was so pleased to have the opportunity to have them done.

Vaccination is a personal thing and there will always be those for and against.
 
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my middle daughter is 12 , nearly 13 , we have had a good talk about it all and she is going to have it done , yes it is scarey when its a new vaccine etc but i had the beginnings of cc at 18 after the birth of my first daughter , now that was scarey ! i had treatment and touch wood ive been fine but anything that may help prevent it is good for me :thumbsup:
 
k4tie-d said:
im quite glad that my little girl is 4, and wont be offered this for a good few years yet. im always funny with jags since i heard of my mums friends little boy who got the mmr and 2 days later he stoped talking and started acting a bit strange. turns out he ended up with autisum, and their neighbours boy who got the mmr the same day in the same doctors an hour later and 2days later exactly the same thing.
iv not really looked into it, but i was speaking to my mum about this and she was saying its to stop the genital warts virus, which can cause cervical cancer. so why not give it to boys aswell, stamp out this wart visus altogether???

seems a bit strange to me :b

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The vaccine being used nationally, being paid for by the government, is Cervarix.

This is a bivalent vaccine - it protects against only TWO strains of HPV, namely 16 and 18, which are the main causal strains of Cervical Cancer in Europe, found in c.75% of cases.

The strains which cause genital warts are 6 and 11, Cervarix is not licensed to protect against these strains.

The quadrivalent vaccine, Gardasil, which is the same NHS price as Cervarix DOES protect against the FOUR strains of 6, 11, 16 and 18. However, this vaccine is not being used for the programme in the UK despite all other countries who have instigated an HPV vaccination programme over the last 2 years having opted for the quadrivalent vaccine for higher levels of protection - USA, Australia, France, Germany, Belgium etc etc

When the government asked GSK and SPMSD to tender for the supply of the vaccine, the document asked for a vaccine to prevent Cervical Cancer. This enabled GSK to compete on a level playing field with SPMSD and subsequently, GSK were awarded the contract for the supply of the vaccine.

GSK is a British company, Sanofi Pasteur MSD is a French company :- "

Boys were never included in a potential vaccination programme as there is no danger from Cervical Cancer for them.
 
jade is 15 in October we still have to have this talk.

But I would like her to have it .

Ive had problems in that area my self and dont wont her to go thruw what I have.
 
Hi there

My daughter had these injections 2 years ago at the age of 17. She was not sexually active at the time but was likely to become so. We had the conversation and I gave her the written information and she asked for me to find out if she could have it.

Doctor said not under National Health because NICE had not made the decision to vaccinate the young population. I asked him if I paid for the vaccine would he inject for Free. Result £280.00 ( I was lucky to be able to afford it) and eight months later she was fully vaccinated.

She was brillant but did not like the injections but did it.

My sister has just had her daughter done for free on the NHS because NICE has agreed to vaccinate the young population. Her daughter was 16. It maybe a case of 'If you don't ask you don't get!'

Any one wanting this injection who is over 12 but not sexually active she see their doctor. My doctor did a trail on the drug and did mention that you can still have it if you are sexually active i. e. very few partners and it may still be worthwhile but I don't know about it being free in those circumstances.

Hope this helps anyone interested.

Wendy
 
I am a teacher and head of year, my year group have just entered year eight. So they will be part of the first nationally administered group for these injections. Personally, I think prevention is always going to be preferable to cure.

I have had to speak to pupils who have refused to take the letters home, to these children I have sensitively explained the potential benefits of having the jab. The reason they fear it is because the letter they receive TELLS them they may feel sick etc. Anyone who knows teenagers knows that all it takes is to have the idea put in their mind and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Ultimately, it is the parents who sign their consent and I feel that sending pupils home with a letter rather than posting parents directly means many children will slip through the net.

Parents tend to find this jab 'alarming' as it is about being sexually active yet being given at an age where the girls are still (hopefully) completely innocent of such things.

Which is exactly why this is the time for the vaccine to be given.
 
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Jesswhippet said:
Hi there
My daughter had these injections 2 years ago at the age of 17. She was not sexually active at the time but was likely to become so. We had the conversation  and I gave her the written information and she asked for me to find out if she could have it. 

Doctor said not under National Health because NICE had not made the decision to vaccinate the young population. I asked him if I paid for the vaccine would he inject for Free. Result £280.00 ( I was lucky to be able to afford it)  and eight months later she was fully vaccinated.

She was brillant but did not like the injections but did it.

My sister has just had her daughter done for free on the NHS because NICE has agreed to vaccinate the young population. Her daughter was 16. It maybe a case of 'If you don't ask you don't get!'

Any one wanting this injection who is over 12 but not sexually active she see their doctor.  My doctor did a trail on the drug and did mention that you can still have it if you are sexually active i. e. very few partners and it may still be worthwhile but I don't know about it being free in those circumstances.

Hope this helps anyone interested.

Wendy

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I have asked my GP on a couple of occasions. My eldest daughter is 15 and I would like to get both girls done at the same time. Plus I have a preference for Gardasil which is not the vaccine that is being administered in the school vaccinations.

On both occasions I have been told that they are not getting involved in it. It is being done through schools. It looks as though it depends where you live and how co-operative your GP is.
 
I have asked my GP on a couple of occasions. My eldest daughter is 15 and I would like to get both girls done at the same time. Plus I have a preference for Gardasil which is not the vaccine that is being administered in the school vaccinations.

On both occasions I have been told that they are not getting involved in it. It is being done through schools. It looks as though it depends where you live and how co-operative your GP is.





Just to let you know my daughter did have the Gardasil injections.

Strange injections, the nurse just holds it against the skin and touches something and it injections and withdrawns from the skin automatically - in its own time! I watched my daughter have the first two - on the third whe went on her own.

Small reaction to the first did feel a bit sick but she has a horse - had injections on her days off from work and mucked out to keep her arm moving - this elimated any pain in her arm.

If you have a practice which has several doctors could you try a different doctor?

I am surprised that it is not Gardasil being given to school children.

My doctor also said that Gardisal could be used for boys althought not at risk of cervical cancer it would help stop the spread of the HPV virus. I dare say they will never get it!

Sorry don't know what to suggest other keep trying.

Wendy
 
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