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Not to hi-jack another thread, I wondered what the law is with regard to dogs that are aggressive to other dogs?

We have a problem locally with a Shar-pei. It appeared out of nowhere one night as OH was walking ours (on lead) on the common, and attacked Gelert. Fortunately he had his thick coat on, so didn't have an injuries requiring stitching, but was very badly bruised and badly shaken, and OH had to kick the dog continually in an attempt to stop it getting a firm grip on him, something he would not have dreamt of doing in any other circumstance.

Subsequently the dog has gone on to attack a number of other dogs locally, most recently a 3 month old Cavalier puppy, which it grabbed and shook vigourously (she told the puppy's owner it had never done anything like that before (w00t) ). The Sharpei's owner also screamed at our friends' very dog-savvy daughter when she started to approach the dog, which suggests to me that they are very worried that it might bite a child, or may already have done so :(

My OH has approached her and made his feelings known firmly but politely, mainly that the dog should not be let off lead in a public place, as she has absolutely no ability to recall it. He had a load of abuse from her, and list of the dogs that had tried to attack it, including a local mild-mannered Golden Retriever :- " . I know another person in the village received a court order to keep his GSD on a lead following similar incidents, and I wondered what the correct procedure might be in this case? I feel something awful will happen to either another dog or potentially a child if the owners are not forced to be more responsible with this dog soon.
 
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I'd contact the local dog warden who will go and have a word with the owners.
 
im certain you have to contact the police and the dog warden/council and report with as many details statements as you possibly can? im sure if it attacks twice it can be seized and pts?

sadly people tend to just warn each other and not the relevant depts , without evidence they cant prove anything , also try gaining evidence from local vets of dogs been attacked by certain types or indeed the same dog , it all helps

we have a large staffy cross here whom is a foaming snarling beast whom the middle aged male who owns him thinks its excellent he is like that and proud he killed other dogs efore he whisked him away from being pts , in one conversation he did say he would like to see his dog rip mine to bits as they are skinny useless things and i ought to get a real dog!!!! :rant:
 
posh totty said:
im certain you have to contact the police and the dog warden/council and report with as many details statements as you possibly can? im sure if it attacks twice it can be seized and pts?
Does that apply to attacks on other dogs, or only if it bites people? :unsure:
 
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~elizabeth~ said:
posh totty said:
im certain you have to contact the police and the dog warden/council and report with as many details statements as you possibly can? im sure if it attacks twice it can be seized and pts?
Does that apply to attacks on other dogs, or only if it bites people? :unsure:

both :thumbsup:
 
William was attached by a staffy last year .A few days later I spoke to a man walking a terrier he told me the staffy had attached a JRT earlier inthe month it required 50 stiches but the police would do nothing as there was no witnesses .

Get as many people who have had trouble with this dog to report it to the police ,dog warden and even the council. Also get names and addresses of anyone who may wittness the attaches.

I was told the other day that the staffy is still about and attaching dogs a friends children were with their dog a cavalier I think when the staffy attached .It managed to get hold of the dog by its ear and the staffies owner just ripped the ear out of the dogs mouth ripping the cavies ear open
 
oakmoorehill said:
Get as many people who have had trouble with this dog to report it to the police ,dog warden and even the council. Also get names and addresses of anyone who may wittness the attaches.
That's the problem. There were no independent witnesses to the incident my OH had, probably the same with the others. :( I have a feeling the police would not act unless there is a witness, and the woman would almost certainly claim the other dog initiated the attack.

That's awful about William, it must have been a terrible injury to need 50 stitches :(

quintessence said:
http://www.dogstrust.org.uk/information/fa...law/presentlaw/
This is an interesting site Elizabeth.  I think there are several instances under the heading Control which would apply.

Thanks, I will have a very close look at those.

What is worrying is that the woman has a habit of actively approaching people who haven't met her before and asking if they would mind it she 'socialises' her dog with theirs. She asked my OH this a few weeks before it attacked ours, as 'He likes whippets, and he's had problems with other dogs going for him :unsure: '. This woman approached a friend of ours yesterday and asked if she would help her 'socialise' the Sharpei with her Patterdale bitch, so although she's clearly aware it has issues with other dogs, she hasn't learned from past experience.
 
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~elizabeth~ said:
Not to hi-jack another thread, I wondered what the law is with regard to dogs that are aggressive to other dogs?
We have a problem locally with a Shar-pei. It appeared out of nowhere one night as OH was walking ours (on lead) on the common, and attacked Gelert. Fortunately he had his thick coat on, so didn't have an injuries requiring stitching, but was very badly bruised and badly shaken, and OH had to kick the dog continually in an attempt to stop it getting a firm grip on him, something he would not have dreamt of doing in any other circumstance.

Subsequently the dog has gone on to attack a number of other dogs locally, most recently a 3 month old Cavalier puppy, which it grabbed and shook vigourously (she told the puppy's owner it had never done anything like that before  (w00t) ). The Sharpei's owner also screamed at our friends' very dog-savvy daughter when she started to approach the dog, which suggests to me that they are very worried that it might bite a child, or may already have done so  :(

My OH has approached her and made his feelings known firmly but politely, mainly that the dog should not be let off lead in a public place, as she has absolutely no ability to recall it. He had a load of abuse from her, and list of the dogs that had tried to attack it, including a local mild-mannered Golden Retriever  :- " . I know another person in the village received a court order to keep his GSD on a lead following similar incidents, and I wondered what the correct procedure might be in this case? I feel something awful will happen to either another dog or potentially a child if the owners are not forced to be more responsible with this dog soon.

Hi,

My whippet had to be put to sleep after being savaged by a huge staffie.My dogs were all on the lead,and as i passed a car,the boot was open,it ran down the road and bit by dog 15 times.Including a 6 inch hole in his leg.I went to the police,and they law was a farce.As i was in a public place the police saw it as a dog fight,even though my Whippet did not fight back.If i had been bitten,it was a different matter.I contacted the dog warden,who had records that the dog had attacked before.The dog warden then took the owner to court,under the control of dangerous dogs act.They pleaded guilty,and i had to give evidence.I would go straight to the dog warden.My dogs injuries were photographed.and used as evidence,by the dog warden.I still see the dog,and it now has to wear a muzzle at all times i a public place,and never let off.It took me months to get over what happened to my dog,was frightened to take my other dogs out.Please report these owners,i would do it all again.

Amandax
 
use section 3 of the dangerous dogs act. ;) that would apply here.no dog is allowed 2 bites of the cherry any more,it used to be the case many moons ago that a dog was allowed 3 bites and after that it would be seized and pts.nowadays that isnt allowed anymore.a dog doesnt even need to bite anymore.a member of the pubic only has to be in fear that it might bite
 
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/domestic/dogs.htm

lots of good info here

i note the article under the 1971 animals act saying that any owner of a dog is responsible for any damages incurred by the dog.i would imagine any solicitor worth their salt would be able to prosecute a dog owner under this section of the act :thumbsup:
 
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~elizabeth~ said:
oakmoorehill said:
Get as many people who have had trouble with this dog to report it to the police ,dog warden and even the council. Also get names and addresses of anyone who may wittness the attaches.
That's the problem. There were no independent witnesses to the incident my OH had, probably the same with the others. :( I have a feeling the police would not act unless there is a witness, and the woman would almost certainly claim the other dog initiated the attack.

That's awful about William, it must have been a terrible injury to need 50 stitches :(

quintessence said:
http://www.dogstrust.org.uk/information/fa...law/presentlaw/
This is an interesting site Elizabeth.  I think there are several instances under the heading Control which would apply.

Thanks, I will have a very close look at those.

What is worrying is that the woman has a habit of actively approaching people who haven't met her before and asking if they would mind it she 'socialises' her dog with theirs. She asked my OH this a few weeks before it attacked ours, as 'He likes whippets, and he's had problems with other dogs going for him :unsure: '. This woman approached a friend of ours yesterday and asked if she would help her 'socialise' the Sharpei with her Patterdale bitch, so although she's clearly aware it has issues with other dogs, she hasn't learned from past experience.


William wasn't injured he seemed to sense what was going to happen and jumped out of the way as the staffy went for him so it missed him. The dog that needed 50 stiches was a JRT that lived up the road from us
 
~elizabeth~ said:
Not to hi-jack another thread, I wondered what the law is with regard to dogs that are aggressive to other dogs?
We have a problem locally with a Shar-pei. It appeared out of nowhere one night as OH was walking ours (on lead) on the common, and attacked Gelert. Fortunately he had his thick coat on, so didn't have an injuries requiring stitching, but was very badly bruised and badly shaken, and OH had to kick the dog continually in an attempt to stop it getting a firm grip on him, something he would not have dreamt of doing in any other circumstance.

Subsequently the dog has gone on to attack a number of other dogs locally, most recently a 3 month old Cavalier puppy, which it grabbed and shook vigourously (she told the puppy's owner it had never done anything like that before  (w00t) ). The Sharpei's owner also screamed at our friends' very dog-savvy daughter when she started to approach the dog, which suggests to me that they are very worried that it might bite a child, or may already have done so  :(

My OH has approached her and made his feelings known firmly but politely, mainly that the dog should not be let off lead in a public place, as she has absolutely no ability to recall it. He had a load of abuse from her, and list of the dogs that had tried to attack it, including a local mild-mannered Golden Retriever  :- " . I know another person in the village received a court order to keep his GSD on a lead following similar incidents, and I wondered what the correct procedure might be in this case? I feel something awful will happen to either another dog or potentially a child if the owners are not forced to be more responsible with this dog soon.


a staffy tried to attack my dogs last year :rant: luckily mine were on leads but the owners of the staff just opened the door and he flew at my girls :rant: luckily my foot was quicker than he was :- " i reported it to the police and they went round the next day to warn them :thumbsup:
 

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