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[midlanderkeith]

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Why cos im really p****d off at being followed every time i go out with it, twice now ive had the police at my home wanting to check the contents of my camera and twice theyve been happy at what they have seen, but this mornings episode well heres what happened, i was out in the fields not far from me with jill and camera, when all of a sudden this young guy came bombing up to me from a nearby bungalow, demanding to see what pics i had taken,he was real irate, and tried to take the camera off me but i wouldnt let him, so i showed him the pics voluntarily, he was happy to see that his home wasnt included in my pics and told me never the less hes reporting me to the police, so i sit here again and wait, im fully aware that you cannot go out and take pics willy nilly of folksies homes and never do, not intentionally anyhow, so theres a warning to you all be carefull with your cameras, im far from a violent man and really do appreciate this guys concern, for as he says he has children, but i know deep in my heart, with the statements he came out with to me, even though he was a younger man, with the rage and hatred i felt at his statements, if there hadnt been a fence dividing us there would have been bother, in fact, i shall be back at the same place when i see fit, but without my camera

 

[June Jonigk]

Keith that is an unfortunate incident, but while they keep letting paedophiles roam the streets, and live in communities, people will always be on their guard for their kids I suppose.

We need you to keep your camera though, 'cos we look forward to pics of yours and Jilly's antics. Also, you will need it when Jill has her pups, it will be something you want to remember for ever :thumbsup: :wub: :wub:

 

[Lal]

What a sad world we live in Keith. Sad that because of scum paedophiles parents can't video their kids nativity plays, sports days etc, and anybody seen carrying a camera is seen as a threat. Don't sell your camera, still remember the fab shot of the hawk(?) taking something from Jill's mouth. Photographs like that are priceless. :huggles:

 

[jane002]

Hi

sorry but i would tell them to check the law, so long as you havent stood in front of his home and taken a picture of it, then its not illigal to have pictures of peoples homes or people them selves in the background (not yet anyway) not unless they are the focal point of the picture.

If your getting so much hassle then i would get advice from the CBA.

 

[tdavepat]

Hi Keith, its also PC gone mad. There may be paedo's roaming the streets but where does it all stop when a person cannot go out in a field with a camera and take pics of his dog.

I have kids, i have dogs, I have a camera and I have a house, so does nearly everyone I know. What am I to do if someones house accidentally strays onto my picture.

Do I think everyone with a camera is taking pictures of my kids?.....no I do not! i care for my children and I am guilty sometimes of being perhaps a little overprotective. But give me a break please on the understanding of this guys concern.

The guy in question obviously has other issues that need addressed. And the police have better things to do than follow up every report of a person taking pics.

PS Keith, how much!!

Dave

 

[kris]

Hi
sorry but i would tell them to check the law, so long as you havent stood in front of his home and taken a picture of it, then its not illigal to have pictures of peoples homes or people them selves in the background (not yet anyway) not unless they are the focal point of the picture.If your getting so much hassle then i would get advice from the CBA.

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do you mean like this?

http://www.k9community.co.uk/forums/index....showtopic=45430

 

[jane002]

Hi
sorry but i would tell them to check the law, so long as you havent stood in front of his home and taken a picture of it, then its not illigal to have pictures of peoples homes or people them selves in the background (not yet anyway) not unless they are the focal point of the picture.If your getting so much hassle then i would get advice from the CBA.

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do you mean like this?

http://www.k9community.co.uk/forums/index....showtopic=45430

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Yep, you have to have permission from the people before you take a picture of them,

if they are to be the focal point of the picture.

i go to a lot of shows through out the year, and take a lot of pictures - but i always ask for permission from the owner before taking the pictures - although at a public show you don't really need it.

 

[jane002]

sorry i was wrong, you dont need someones permission,

just asked some of the people from the local photography club

on there forum, and this was the reply.

If you are stood on public land - on the street for example - you have the right to take a photograph of anyone or anything you like provided the photograph itself isn't breaking any law - I'm thinking of pornography here. No one has any right to stop you taking their photograph or a picture of their house. You most certainly do not have to get their permission before you do so. Now sometimes of course it's best to adopt a pragmatic approach, there's no point in getting beaten to a pulp by a group of yobs just because you have the right to photograph them if you think it could get nasty. Common sense is sometimes the best approach.
If you are on private land then all bets are off and the landowner is quite within his or her rights to ask you to stop. That's why places such as the Trafford Centre can ask you to stop or leave if you insist on taking photographs inside.

It's interesting that people who object don't seem to mind having their photograph, and that of their children being taken potentially hundreds of times a day by security cameras and reviewed on a screen by God knows who and God knows where.

 

[kris]

hmmm thats interesting.so images of people arent their property?they belong to the photographer?im sure i read something about this a week or so ago on the non ped racing thread :thumbsup:

 

[wild whippies]

Brilliant article in DC Mag last month about copyright and model releases etc.

Basically you can photograph freely at public events/ public places. It is seen as careful to get model releases for any you use towards personal gain or self promotion etc but copyright remains with the photographer.

Buildings is a tricky one, they recon you can shoot for example a church from the street without requiring permission, stand within the grounds of the churchyard and apparently you do need permission. Seems daft when you could pull off the same shot with a telephoto lens. :lol:

For non-ped racing I adopted a sort of cover my ass approach by basically inviting those that had objections to voice them to me in person and I would make vested efforts to exclude their dogs / persons from shot or would photo edit them out afterwards.

 

[lewington]

World has gone mad

I know that we all have to be terribly PC these days (and doesn't that get ridiculous at times) but what gets me is the general attitude of mistrust between people - why do people always think/imagine the worst about others?

K9 is a lovely exception to this and one of the reasons I love to come here.

 

[quintessence]

Jac,

If photos of my dog appeared on a forum and I was not happy with them and I requested they were removed, if this request was refused then would I just have to put up with it?

Jenny

 

[wild whippies]

It depends if the photo was taken at a public place or whether the photo concerned is being used for advertising.

If the photo has been edited in such a way as to distort, defame or misrepresent there can be a case for complaint, especially if you could demonstrate personal loss as a result.

 

[Judy]

I think its not illegal to take pictures of anyone or anything if you are standing on public land and its not of a secret military installation. Model release forms only apply if the picture is taken for profit (I think) People might object but its not illegal to take a picture of their house if you don't go onto their land to do it.

 

[jane002]

Someone sent me a link to the uk photographers right's.

http://www.sirimo.co.uk/media/UKPhotographersRights.pdf

 

[June Jonigk]

So what we're saying is that no one has broken any rules then eh? :thumbsup: