Chalking Prior To Entering Ring

[stephen mason]

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At the Madrid International Show last week, with a total of 12 whippets, all the particoloureds were shaking clouds of chalk or talcum powder around the ring. I do not recall seeing whippets being chalked at Crufts last March. Is this practice permitted under KC rules? What is the situation in other parts of the world? Australia, USA, Finland, Sweden etc. At Crufts, last March most of the whippets were fawn or brindle. Attached if I`ve been successful is a photo of Isidra taken on her 1st. birthday. Regards to all, Stephen

 

[Millie]

No Stephen............ Chalking is totally against KC rules.

Lovely pic :wub:

 

[kris]

any foreign substance which alters the colour or substance of the coat is against k.c. rules.doesnt stop them though!terriers would be very hard to present without various substances being put into their coats.i remember a kc hearing from years ago involving a very famous poodle breeder/ exhibitor and her top winning dog who when tested it was revealed had been dyed!at the hearing it was found that the owner/breeder/exhibitor hadnt done it,but noone else knew who had done it either!.so the fairies must have done it mustnt they? :- "

 

[aslan]

Chalking, powdering etc are common practice here in many breeds. There is even a pixie dust now that puts a glitter into the coat.

Knew a dalmatian owner once that used to make the spots bigger with eyeliner :wacko:

However I've just read the Queensland rules and it states:

"a person shall be deemed guilty of an offence against these rules if....

any dye, colouring, lightening or darkening matter has been used and remains on any part of the dog at the time of exhibition"

so it would seem that technically chalking and powdering fall into this category. However so many people do it and it seems that a blind eye is turned or it is generally accepted as part of a grooming routine in many breeds. Permanent dyes however do attract attention and would probably result in a formal complaint.

 

[Karen]

I dont think the Whippets are chalked so much over here as they used to be, or we are all being a bit more careful :- "

I used to show a black masked brindle/white trim who had a scar on her nose and I had to fill in the white scar with black felt tip pen before I went in the ring. I have chalked before but Frodo is naturally very white so Im luck just now. Nothing bothers me quite frankly, live and let live, the judges know if a dog is covered in chalk or lacquer. If I was judging I would still go on movement and conformation at the end of the day. Cant ever recall putting a dog up cos it had whiter legs and feet :blink:

 

[dessie]

I dont think the Whippets are chalked so much over here as they used to be, or we are all being a bit more careful :- "

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It is permissible to bath them before a show though, that helps to make the white clean!!!

 

[bardmand]

Chalking whippets? :blink: :blink:

'fraid (and relieved) we're not that sophisticated where I live. I've heard of chalking, but I always thought it had something to do with improving coat texture in terriers - is it simply used for making the dog look whiter?

Can't really recall noticing whether one whippet in a showring was whiter than the other, but perhaps have I missed one of the finer points of breed type? :- "

 

[stephen mason]

Will check with Spanish Kennel Club which I suppose follows or should follow the rules of the FCI. Regards, Stephen

 

[Claire]

The Irish Kennel Club Permit Chalk & Other Lotions & Potions...

I have even seen the odd tub of Pixie Dust here too.. :teehee:

 

[JAX]

The Irish Kennel Club Permit Chalk & Other Lotions & Potions...
I have even seen the odd tub of Pixie Dust here too.. :teehee:

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Yes , but it has to be put on by a `Lebrechan `dosnt it :lol: so it does :luck:

 

[kris]

to be sure,to be sure........... :luck: :thumbsup:

 

[Dusilla]

In Finland the Finnish Kennel Club rules forbid to use any substance to affect the colour, form or texture of the coat, nose or skin of the dog. So e.g. chalk or hairspray are not allowed.

 

[aslan]

What about the Poodles Laila?

The Poodles here are covered in hairspray. Especially the top-knots.

 

[Dusilla]

What about the Poodles Laila? 
The Poodles here are covered in hairspray.  Especially the top-knots.

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No hairspray allowed for the Poodles either. But I don't know who well this rule is followed.

 

[stephen mason]

The RSCE (Spanish Kennel Club) quotes rule 6(6) of the FCI rules." No dog will be judged which does not move, jumps all over making it impossible for the judge to examine it. This also applies to teeth, tail, testicles etc. Also any treatment applied which appears to have been made to deceive the judge or where the judge has ample reason to suspect that the dog has been operated on with the intention to correct the original". Is chalking deceiving? I once saw an Italian judge remove 2 peseta coins from a whippets ears. The ears shot up. Is Ireland a member of the FCI?. Regards Stephen

 

[Karen]

I once saw an Italian judge remove 2 peseta coins from a whippets ears. The ears shot up.

Na, that was just a novel way of bribing him

 

[Claire]

Ireland ( Southern ) Have their own Irish Kennel Club (IKC) who have recentley become an "affiliate" ( Not sure If That Is The Correct Term Or Not ) member of the FCI.

As yet IKC are not full members and are currently debating the pros and cons of being full members.

IKC are running about 4 FCI shows in the year at the minute.If & When becoming a full member I am sure that changes will be made to many rules and regs. It will also affect the classifications and judging system that is used currently.

Other things such as Critiques ,which are not compulsary at the minute will change.

 

[zilloot]

No Stephen............ Chalking is totally against KC rules.
Lovely pic  :wub:

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..and I wish some people would stick to the rules of the 'game'.

But I do agree that it's hardly going to be the deciding factor and at least you can wash whippet feet clean.

 

[bertie]

when the ban on such things as chalk came into effect in the late 80s early 90s i think? a number of breeds had random checks post CC.

I can remember a Westie have its CC withheld because chalk was found in its coat I might be wrong but I think this was at Crufts!! It was in all the dog papers at the time.

Out of interest i'm sure the rule is not that you can not use chalk as a 'cleaning aid' but all traces must be removed prior to entering the show ring. :- "

This rule also applies to shampoos aswell.

 

[playawhile]

In Finland the Finnish Kennel Club rules forbid to use any substance to affect the colour, form or texture of the coat, nose or skin of the dog. So e.g. chalk or hairspray are not allowed.

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Hi!

The rules in Finland are just the same in Sweden.

Henrik Härling