I will be retiring shortly and plan to get a Border Terrier pup. What I cannot decide is whether to get a crate or a pen. Getting a crate will negate the need to also have a carrier as I can transport the pup in the car in the crate but I am more concerned about night time. If I have a crate, I will need to get up 2 or 3 times a night to let him out to go to the toilet whereas with a crate, I can put a toilet pad in (in the hope that he'll use it). I have also read that you should try to ignore their cries/whines at night until they settle down but with a crate and 2 or 3 toilet trips, ignoring him would not be possible. I think I've just answered my own question - looks like a pen is the way to go. I'd be interested to know what others think.