Dangerous dogs in wrong hands

[lurcherman]

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How can we stop idiots owning big, strong dogs that are attacking our pets and children? Now before you say it's always the owners fault and most times it is, what law changes do you want to bring in to protect other pets and children? I walk a American mastiff x American bulldog daily and know I must take certain measures, he is stable but I am aware of what might happen,, today we have far too many dogs in the wrong hands and nobody I.e the council dog wardens doing enough info gathering ,

Oh and I'm against law changes that hurt the good responsible owners and make them dig into their pockets again and again

 

[gypsysmum2]

It must start with breeders being licenced. They then then have to take responsibility for the dogs they breed. This will make them be ultra careful to only sell puppies to good, responsible owners. After all they would not want them back!

It a law was passed tomorrow that declared breeders had to take back any dangerous dog, or dog that needed rehoming, then the vast majority would stop breeding the next day. This would leave a responsible minority breeding good dogs and selling them to the best owners they could find. They would all have waiting lists a mile long to choose from! Could easily be done, now that microchipping is compulsory, as the breeder could go on the dog's record.

 

[dogmatize]

These dogs are not being bred by responsible breeders. They are being bred by morons to make money. Responsible breeders don't have to advertise.Most responsible breeders will always take back or rehome any dog they breed.

You should know perfectly well that a puppy can leave a breeder as a well balanced, socialized dog only to be turned into an anti social nutcase by the owner.

It can be very hard to really know what prospective puppy owners are like behind closed doors.Most good breeders will do their best to find out all they can about owners but people can be dishonest about anything.

 

[gypsysmum2]

That is why a licencing system would help. The bad breeders can be traced and made to take responsibility for the dog that they have brought into the world. The bad ones, that did not give up the minute the legislation was passed, would go out of "business" in no time at all. The good breeders would be left to police the system by breeding dogs of sound body and temperament. Yes, dogs would be much harder to come by but that is the whole point. Fewer dogs mean breeders can be much choosier over who gets to take one of their precious pups home. If they make a mistake and the new owner is not rearing and handling the dog properly then the breeder can take it back and there will be dozens of prospective owners waiting to rehome it.

While bad breeders get away with over producing puppies with no thought to their temperament and health then nothing is ever going to change. It must start with beginning of the whole process i.e. the mating.

It seems wrong to compare dogs with commodities but if a washing machine is not fit for purpose then the consumer has rights. If you buy a dog that has hereditary faults or poor temperament or is reared poorly by the breeder then the producer is not held in any way responsible! If they breed a puppy they must take responsibility for placing it in the best possible home to ensure it is well socialised and trained, taken to the vet when necessary etc. Surely that is not too much to ask?

As has been said - good breeders already do this. The trouble is there is no way for the pet owning public to find the "good" breeder. Perhaps we should turn it around for the breeder to have to find the "good" owner.

 

[lurcherman]

I don't see much prosecutions for these chavs walking their dangerous dogs that shite all over our streets, I want the morons fined or jailed, there are many good owners that if the breeders raise their prices too high will not in the future get to own dogs, I want more info gathering by council dog wardens,, let's face it we all know somebody who owns dangerous dogs with the owner being a total loon on bringing a dog on properly.

 

[gypsysmum2]

True, but then that is up to the breeder whether to sell at high prices or not. Hopefully they would choose the absolute best home as a first priority.

I do think that some breeders could do more to educate new owners too. They seem to focus on health and diet etc but not give much help on getting the puppy well socialised and trained

 

[gypsysmum2]

Oops hadn't finished.

One breeder, I heard of, kept the litter until they were twelve weeks old. I was horrified when I first heard but it turned out that she socialised the whole litter herself as she did not trust the new owners to do it properly! She even took them on a cable car! The dog I saw was absolutely bombproof, it was a Whippet. Its owner also had a Labrador that was frightened of life. Turned out that it came from a gundog kennel and had not seen anything outside the confines of the kennels for the first fourteen weeks of its life.