Dog Attack

[Cleopatra]

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Still shaking my dog Billy has been attacked by a neighbours dog!

I think only saved by his Ventura coat. I was waking past their house and the dog rushed at the fence from nowwhere, no sound, didnt even know it was there, it ran full pelt at the fence broke a hole through and started to attack my dog luckily he had his coat on as i thought it might rain, a neighbour heard me screaming for help as i could not stop the dog from attacking and couldnt get away and helped me get the dog off!

Taken Billy to vets as he had a deep puncture wound in his chest and a gash in his back leg, cant help thinking if he hadnt had his coat on and my neighbour hadnt helped me things could have been a lot worse than £110.24 vet bill. still shaken, this dog has attacked people before why does nobody seem to take dog attacks seriously? Can anyone PM with help, i can give more details.

Sorry still shaking.

 

[kris]

first of all id tell the owners of the dog whats happened and tell them you expect them to pay the vets bill.then go to the police and make an official complaint.if noone makes anything official then it doesnt matter if the dogs done this before cos noone bothered to make a record of it.this is what i would do but i dont know if theres anything else you can do about it.there is a law about a dog being dangerously out of control in a public place but tbh the police seem to never use the powers that this law gives them.maybe if you get a solicitor to write to them they may take further action against the owners.hope you and billy are ok

 

[IWLass]

there is a law about a dog being dangerously out of control in a public place but tbh the police seem to never use the powers that this law gives them.

Sadly, this only applies to dogs that are dangerous to "people" - dog on dog attacks do not class as dangerous in the eyes of the law afaik

I hope Billy recovers soon - maybe calling the local dog warden will have an effect..... :unsure:

 

[kris]

the dog HAS attacked people

 

[fallenangel]

A dog copusing excesive fear is classed as a dangerus dog well i would be in fear if It was acacking my dog so that should cover this insedent aswell as the previus atacks on people. i hope you get everything sorted and BIlly is better soon :huggles:

 

[Cleopatra]

Unforfortunately or fortunately the dog hasnt mauled or seriously wounded or killed anyone for it to be noted as a danger i think.

My fault for not stating that he had previously attacked people before, still shocked i think, happened at 5pm still shaking, have reported to police and im awaiting to see if anyone will come out to see me at the moment, think they will, will have to see what they say.

Just wantes to shre with you and see if anyone had been through this and help i can PM with you if you prefer.

Thanks

 

[boothros]

Sorry not to be able to offer useful advice, just to wish you the best hoping that u and your poor dog wil get over this nasty experience very soon.

 

[OEH]

Soryy, I can't help, just hoping that you and BIlly feel better soon :luck: :huggles:

 

[jools]

Firstly, I hope Billy is going to be OK and that you are feeling a little less shaken up - it's a horrible thing to happen - been there!

When I had a similar problem, my friend (a dog warden) showed me "the book" on these incidents - a dog doesns't have to have bitten a person, just to be dangerously out of control in a public place as has already been said. The dog wardens have no power in these cases, it is a police matter. I suggest you go and tell them what has happened, if they don't take it seriously, find out who your MP is , speak to them and say that you will be contacting the papers if nothing is done VERY quickly, next time it could be a child. Sadly, if ythe owners won't pay your vet bills, you will have to take them throught the small claims court - a real pain, I considered it but didn't bother because of all the hassle. The owners of the dog in my case were ordered that the dog was either kept on a leadat ALL times or was muzzled.

Don't let this go, this dog sounds extremely dangerous to me.

Good luck :thumbsup:

:luck: :luck: to Billy :huggles:

 

[Cleopatra]

Thanks all for your concern an well wishing!

Feel a bit better today, not shaking but didnt sleep and ache all over today, Billy feeling sore too my son found another punture wound in Billys neck this morning that has a nice crusty scab on it! The puncture wound in the front of his chest is still open and weeping from the rinsing out it had last night.There is qiute a hole! Of course he wont leave it alone.

The usual stretch and shaking of the ears ritual this morning had to be abandoned because it was too painful , he is being very brave and did not retaliate once in the attack, and hasnt complained once not even in the vets when he was having all injections etc. :huggles:

History i know of the dog Alsation( i love Alsations had them as a kid mine were soppy fools) thats before the AAlsation bashing starts :- "

1. Bit lad across the road years ago after asking to stroke it.(Not reported)

2. Lunged at my neck while quietly talking to my neighbour with dog by her side, no warning just jumped and went to bite, i reacted quickly and only got grazed on my neck.(didnt report it)

3. Husband went round to tell owner that dog was barking cos someone was prowling round outside sat down to have a drink to be thanked (xmas) and dog bit him on lip!(Not reported)

4. Son was asked by this lady if he wanted too stroke dog because he loves them so and as he went to stroke it it bit him horribly in the arm pit, totally out of the blue! Took him to hospital more bruising and shock than blood, luckily bt left a scar( Reported to police and animal warden who went round and said dog was fine to them and it probably has been teased by my son, so he was a prime target anyway!

Owner not told to muzzle dog in public!

5. Little girl been in road 2wks asked woman out walking in street if she could stroke dog, told her yes the dog only dislikes little boys! Promply jumped up with paws on her chest bit her in the lip, she had to go to docs and have day of school!

Dog warden came round and saw owner took her out and said she had to more in control, the dog drags her round the block.

Dog never muzzled in public again, this was a year ago.

6. Yesterday didnt see dog in garden dogs and i walking past Billy and Ellie didnt even sense him! Owner having work done on garden and has plastic fencing up strong stuff, dog appears barking at fence Bmy dogs dont react and like something out of a horror movie he lunging barking and snarling breaking through the fence and just started biting Billy all over, luckily he had a strong thick ventura fleecy waterproof on, this took most of the bites! But he has a bite on the neck, chest and leg. Lady across road heard my screaming for help i had two dogs and couldnt let go with both hands and couldnt get him off with one hand(big dog) she helped me get him off luckily and owner came out and took him in. I went round straight away, (sorry angry) they didnt answer understandably. Saw to Billy with family man came to door to say sorry, i wrongly started to shout and get angry then started to swear when he tried to justify the incident by saying my son has teased the dog all of his life, and what did i expect sort of attitude. I said its about time he had it put down before it killed someone like a child, he said it wsnt a child in this case and he didnt seem to see the situation for what it is. Maybe he was being defensive and i really shouldnt have shouted but i was upset, and have been sooo wary of the bloody dog for ages.

Took billy to vets he agreed it could have far worse without coat and neighbour and gave pain killers antibiotics etc £110.24.

Phoned police told them history very sympathetic, might send someone round today. Will ring if dont.

Sorry to ramble, Billys feeling sore and creaky today but being a real mummys little soldier :huggles: :huggles: :huggles:

I just really want to know why the dog is like this, anybody got any ideas?

 

[jok]

there is a law about a dog being dangerously out of control in a public place but tbh the police seem to never use the powers that this law gives them.

Sadly, this only applies to dogs that are dangerous to "people" - dog on dog attacks do not class as dangerous in the eyes of the law afaik

I hope Billy recovers soon - maybe calling the local dog warden will have an effect..... :unsure:

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Firstly, really sorry to hear about your horrible experience. The dog does not actually have to attack a person, it just has to be 'dangerously out of control in a public place'. It definitely sounds like this dog was! I have dealt with dogs under this offence on quite a number of occassions. Hope Billy feels better soon :huggles:

 

[LasVegasNo1]

O no Sam, sorry to hear about Billy! He's such a gentle boy, poor little thing, hope he's on the mend soon :huggles: :luck:

 

[Karen]

I just really want to know why the dog is like this, anybody got any ideas?

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He probably knows you are all a bit scared of him and every time he wins a situation he will feel more powerful and as you say will probably do a lot of damage to a child one day but it will all be too late to do anything by then.

You must try to press your case, tell the police you are reporting this now because you want a clear concience when there is a bad attack and you hope they do too.

Hope you and your dog have no lasting damage, take a strong stick out with you, I know its awkward but it may just do the trick if it happens again.

 

[dessie]

I am so sorry to hear about the attack on Billy. :huggles: to him

Definitely pursue this with the Police and the Dog Warden. Present the owner with the Vet's bill and if he is reluctant to pay just tell him you will be pursuing the matter further and make sure you do!

God forbid that it happens again but if I am lead walking my dogs and something else rushes at them I would ALWAYS drop their leads so that I have two hands free to tackle the attacking dog. I would rather get bitten myself than have my dogs savaged and they stand more of a chance to get away if they are not restricted by their lead. I had this sort of a situation with the man with the Afghans and I told him that if it did bite me, it would be the last thing it ever did!!

 

[Roedeane]

:rant: 2 years ago I was walking 3 of my whippets - all on leads - and 2 bearded collies got out and attacked one of my dogs, causing £350 of vets fees and the death of my dog. I reported it to the police, who were worse than useless and just said ' it was only a dog that got killed!' :rant: I started legal action - the people were on bl***y benefits so even if I'd 'won' in court, would never have seen any financial compensation, nor would it have brought my dog back :rant: The police only act on the law when it suits them-I have no faith in any force- 10 years ago I had my car stolen, a Ford Sieera 4x4i, one of the commonest makes of car about at the time - the policeman who came out asked me 'where had my 'motorbike'!!! :rant: been parked!!! :rant: As I say, police suit themselves :rant: B y the way, the police contacted my vet who reinforced what the collies had done, but still they did nought :rant:

 

[Cleopatra]

Dessie i wish now i had dropped the leads but i know Billy would have bolted and i live near a busy main road so i think that may have stopped me

Funny thing just happened, the temporary plastic fence theve had up for a couple of weeks has just been replaced by a solid wooden fence!

Sadly i didnt get a picture of the other one but managed to blag a piece of plastic fence before it drove away. :- "

 

[Indee]

This dog sounds highly dominate, but unsure of his position. He is obviously trying to assert his dominance over people who have come to stroke him with out his permission.

The dog will see that you were in the wrong, walking across his territory and unfortunately Billy bore the brunt of it.

This dog needs bringing under control before he does some serious harm, and should never be left in the garden on his own. I would most defiantly report this and make sure they pay, maybe then they will consider getting help on keeping him under control.

 

[Cleopatra]

Sorry roedeane, good grief thats really sad about your dogs and the situation

Ive rung dog warden and police and im still waiting to see, but if im honest there is not a lot of hope for justice.

The dog owners are not aggresive people but they seem to be very niave of thier dogs capabilities, i just want to stop a tradgedy from happening!

They cant control the dog on walks he is too strong and he seems too unpredictable.

I see what you say Indee but i was walking in the street where i live and he broke through the fence to get at Billy! Does the dog see the street as his territory as well?

I will walk the other way now of course but to make a dtour to avoid being attacked seems a big rough

 

[dessie]

The dog owners are not aggresive people but they seem to be very niave of thier dogs capabilities, i just want to stop a tradgedy from happening!They cant control the dog on walks he is too strong and he seems too unpredictable.

I will walk the other way now of course but to make a dtour to avoid being attacked seems a big rough

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This is where the Dog Warden comes into things. I would complain IN WRITING as they have to act on complaints by law. They will visit the dog owner and advise but I would also suggest in your letter that this is not the first instance and that you would like to see the dog (a) muzzled in public and (b) not allowed in the garden unsupervised as it is so unpredictable and you are concerned for the safety of others as well as yourself and your dogs.

I understand how you feel but you shouldn't have to make a detour when it is not your dogs that are the problem.

Good luck and a big hug and kiss to Billy and Ellie!!

 

[kim & Tilly]

Sorry roedeane, good grief thats really sad about your dogs and the situation Ive rung dog warden and police and im still waiting to see, but if im honest there is not a lot of hope for justice.

The dog owners are not aggresive people but they seem to be very niave of thier dogs capabilities, i just want to stop a tradgedy from happening!

They cant control the dog on walks he is too strong and he seems too unpredictable.

I see what you say Indee but i was walking in the street where i live and he broke through the fence to get at Billy! Does the dog see the street as his territory as well?

I will walk the other way now of course but to make a dtour to avoid being attacked seems a big rough

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You ARE going to make them pay the vet bill arent you????

Sorry to hear about your dog :huggles: