Donations For Phil Moran-healy 4 Non Cruft Visitor

[Tesa]

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I have pm'd Nigel to ask about setting up a Paypal fund.  This is the reply I received  (I hope I am not breaking any rules by posting a pm)I have no objection to a fund being set up & if required that to be advertised through K9. However, unfortunately we are unable to manage the fund because all 'income' whether through donations or advertising on K9 has to be accounted for to our tax authorities & tax paid accordingly. So there is no way for us to accept donations without a part being taken for tax.

From this point on I would like to split the topic, so we can explore our options.

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I have split this topic from Patsy's orginal topic on Phil's retirement from Judging and plans to disband his Hillsdown kennels. Patsy is taking up a collection at Crufts with plans to offically present Phil with a retirement gift.

I have five whippet books on my self, and the first one I go to is alway's Phil's. Phil's contribution to the whippet world has been huge, so how do we who can not attend Crufts show our thanks/respect, and be a part of this guesture of thanks.

All suggestions are welcome

Karen

 

[Tesa]

If it is decided that a Paypal account is the way to go, there will be a couple of issues to be sorted out.

I wondered about the possibilty of someone setting up a Paypal donate button on their own website. This person would need to be mutually agreed on and trustworthy before people would just start sending in money.

Does anyone know how easy/difficult to set Paypal?

Is there a fee involved in setting up an account?

Would setting up Paypal on a private website overcome the tax problem, or would make life difficult (at tax time) for the person who was receiving the donations?

 

[whippetsrus]

If it is decided that a Paypal account is the way to go, there will be a couple of issues to be sorted out.
I wondered about the possibilty of someone setting up a Paypal donate button on their own website.  This person would need to be mutually agreed on and trustworthy before people would just start sending in money.

Does anyone know how easy/difficult to set Paypal?

Is there a fee involved in setting up an account?

Would setting up Paypal on a private website overcome the tax problem, or would make life difficult (at tax time) for the person who was receiving the donations?

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Paypal is free and easy to set up. They do take a percentage of all money transferred throught them though.

 

[Tesa]

Paypal is free and easy to set up.  They do take a percentage of all money transferred throught them though.

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Personally I don't see that as an issue (others may feel differently). No matter how we try to send money, we will alway's encounter some sort of handling fee and conversion rates will alway's apply. At least with the paypal, I thought it could be done from the comfort of home.

If we went ahead with this idea, I would imagine that the person receiving the donations would have to receive the funds into one of their own personal accounts. I would not see any point in setting up a new bank account just for such a short period of time. They would then have to physically remove the funds. Trust (and communication) would be a big issue.

 

[Seraphina]

[  They do take a percentage of all money transferred throught them though.

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That is negligible, if anyone sends cash there will also be fee for changing it into GBP. Overseas cheques may also attract a fee when cashed. Pay pal is the simplest, and as far as I know the most economical way, to transfer money overseas. I tried internet transfer to UK, it would have cost me $20 and was told that there is going to be substantial fee for the recipient.

Take it from mad global internet shopper - Pay Pal is the way to go.

 

[Seraphina]

I've been sending money to the  UK for 30 years & I  just send the cash, wrapped in tin foil so the post office machines can't see the metal stripe in the  note, inside a  letter in an ordinary envelople. The secret is  not to draw attention to it. I've done the same to America & France & never had anything go astray.

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If PO machine were looking for metal in envelops they would certainly pick up on foil. Most mail arrives to its destination without problem, and so would the small amount of cash, but then it depends how much inconvenience it is for the recipient to exchange it. There is minimum that money exchange will handle and there is also a charge. I would be seriously p*%$#d off is somebody would send me cash from o/s and all what I could do with the note is to have it framed.

 

[Tesa]

Paypal is free and easy to set up.  They do take a percentage of all money transferred throught them though.

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Personally I don't see that as an issue (others may feel differently). No matter how we try to send money, we will alway's encounter some sort of handling fee and conversion rates will alway's apply. At least with the paypal, I thought it could be done from the comfort of home.

If we went ahead with this idea, I would imagine that the person receiving the donations would have to receive the funds into one of their own personal accounts. I would not see any point in setting up a new bank account just for such a short period of time. They would then have to physically remove the funds. Trust (and communication) would be a big issue.

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Ignore most of what I have said here. What would happen is the paypal account would be set up on the website of mutual choosing. Donations would then be recieved via Paypal through the website. The money donated could then be transfered across to the bank account of our choice. Most likely person to receive the funds directly into their account would be Patsy, that is if she agrees.

 

[patsy]

Thank you for the response from the many people world wide that would like to contribute towards a gift for Phil. As I said in the orginal post if we all only gave a pound it would soon mount up, of course there are people who have given more.

To his friends from overseas if they would email me with their name and kennel name I will have it printed in the card type book that a friend of mine is making. I am sure that Phil would be just as thrilled to have your messages as trying to send over money. My email is courthillwhippets@talktalk.net

Patsy

 

[Sarsanet]

I've been sending money to the  UK for 30 years & I  just send the cash, wrapped in tin foil so the post office machines can't see the metal stripe in the  note, inside a  letter in an ordinary envelople. The secret is  not to draw attention to it. I've done the same to America & France & never had anything go astray.

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If PO machine were looking for metal in envelops they would certainly pick up on foil. Most mail arrives to its destination without problem, and so would the small amount of cash, but then it depends how much inconvenience it is for the recipient to exchange it. There is minimum that money exchange will handle and there is also a charge. I would be seriously p*%$#d off is somebody would send me cash from o/s and all what I could do with the note is to have it framed.

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Lida, you don't send your own currency to someone overseas! You go to the bank & buy notes in their currency. A Post Office employee told me about wrapping the notes in alfoil so the machines don't pick up the stripe. I don't know if that is right or not but I've done it on countless ocassions over many years & never lost one yet.

 

[Seraphina]

Lida, you don't send your own currency to  someone overseas!

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I certainly would not.

You go to the  bank & buy notes in  their  currency.

Which bank can you go to and buy small amount of foreign currency? Not the local branch.

A Post Office employee told me about wrapping the notes in alfoil so the machines don't pick up the  stripe.

You should not believe everything AP employees tells you. To start with I am quite sure Australian notes were the only ones in the world to have the metal strip. The plastic ones we have now do not have it.

 

[Sarsanet]

Lida, you don't send your own currency to  someone overseas!

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I certainly would not.

You go to the  bank & buy notes in  their  currency.

Which bank can you go to and buy small amount of foreign currency? Not the local branch.

A Post Office employee told me about wrapping the notes in alfoil so the machines don't pick up the  stripe.

You should not believe everything AP employees tells you. To start with I am quite sure Australian notes were the only ones in the world to have the metal strip. The plastic ones we have now do not have it.

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Yes, the local branch will sell you small amounts of foreign currency but you have to wait up to a week for it.

The Post Office employee was my own father.

No, Australian notes were not the only ones in the world to have metal stripes & now none of have them at all it makes sending them through the post even easier doesn't it?

If you want to continue argueing over this, Lida see me at the shows today or tomorrow - I'm sure our bickering is very boring to everyone else.

 

[saraquele]

ok i MAY have a solution for the people in Australia wishing to contribute :blink:

my sister lives in OZ and has a joint english bank account or something with my mum who lives in the uk , im sure if you wanted to send her a ch she could put it in this account , my mum could draw it in england and i could pass it on to Lynn and Eva :blink:

i would have to find out if this is possible , i know my mum puts money in here for xmas / birthday pressies so im sure it would work the other way around :blink:

my sis is on a cruise at the moment , lucky thing and wont be back for a couple of weeks but i will enquire with my mum .

if this sound like a good idea just let me know and i will find out if it is possible

 

[Tesa]

Thank you for the response from the many people world wide that would like to contribute towards a gift for Phil. As I said in the orginal post if we all only gave a pound it would soon mount up, of course there are people who have given more.  To his friends from overseas if they would email me with their name and kennel name I will have it printed in the card type book that a friend of mine is making. I am sure that Phil would be just as thrilled to have your messages as trying to send over money. My email is courthillwhippets@talktalk.net

        Patsy

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Thanks you for your reply Patsy, and kind offer to include us foreigners on Phil's card. I am going to going to trust your judgement.

Good luck with Phil's send off celebration, I am sure he will be thrilled.

Karen

 

[Tesa]

ok i MAY  have a solution for the people in Australia wishing to contribute  :blink:
my sister lives in OZ  and has a joint english bank account or something with my mum who lives in the uk , im sure if you wanted to send her a ch she could put it in this account , my mum could draw it in england and i could pass it on to Lynn and Eva  :blink:

i would have to find out if this is possible , i know my mum puts money in here for xmas / birthday pressies so im sure it would work the other way around  :blink:

my sis is on a cruise at the moment , lucky thing and wont be back for a couple of weeks but i will enquire with my mum .

if this sound like a good idea just let me know and i will find out if it is possible 

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Thank your for your kind offer Sharon.