Greyhound X Whippets

[wild whippies]

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Lurchers aren't race dogs so as soon as you start racing them you'll run into people using non ped whippets and ghds and again it's no suprise who does the winning.

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Not everytime Tony, back in 1986/87 I had a collie x greyhound that could beat most non peds she came up against on the lurcher racing circuit. Also I can remember beating a non ped called BA at a evening bend meeting at Highgate track back in 87 with the same bitch :- "

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Was that a first cross collie /ghd?

 

[milly]

Lurchers aren't race dogs so as soon as you start racing them you'll run into people using non ped whippets and ghds and again it's no suprise who does the winning.

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Not everytime Tony, back in 1986/87 I had a collie x greyhound that could beat most non peds she came up against on the lurcher racing circuit. Also I can remember beating a non ped called BA at a evening bend meeting at Highgate track back in 87 with the same bitch :- "

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Was that a first cross collie /ghd?

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Our Sally was out of a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie x a first x collie greyhound.

 

[DavidH]

RACERS, SORRY :- " :thumbsup:

 

[Tony Taylor]

Lurchers aren't race dogs so as soon as you start racing them you'll run into people using non ped whippets and ghds and again it's no suprise who does the winning.

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Not everytime Tony, back in 1986/87 I had a collie x greyhound that could beat most non peds she came up against on the lurcher racing circuit. Also I can remember beating a non ped called BA at a evening bend meeting at Highgate track back in 87 with the same bitch :- "

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Was that a first cross collie /ghd?

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Our Sally was out of a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie x a first x collie greyhound.

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In that case Sally could potentially have been geneticaly a pure bred ghd. Not likely but possible, as I said above there is independant assortment of chromatids during meiosis. It doesn't take long to breed out a characteristic you don't want.

btw Pennysworth and Sugar Daddy both have collie in their breeding

 

[sadieandco]

In that case Sally could potentially have been geneticaly a pure bred ghd. Not likely but possible, as I said above there is independant assortment of chromatids during meiosis. It doesn't take long to breed out a characteristic you don't want.

Sadly i'm a bit thick cos i would think to be a purebred g/h it would have to be greyhound x greyhound :wacko:

o well you live and learn :wacko:

 

[milly]

Our Sally was out of a 3/4 greyhound 1/4 collie x a first x collie greyhound.

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In that case Sally could potentially have been geneticaly a pure bred ghd. Not likely but possible, as I said above there is independant assortment of chromatids during meiosis. It doesn't take long to breed out a characteristic you don't want.

btw Pennysworth and Sugar Daddy both have collie in their breeding

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Here she is Tony,5/8 greyhound in my reckoning :- "

 

[wild whippies]

Nice dog Geoff :thumbsup:

Whatever our own perceptions of what constitutes a whippet, until the representative bodies of the sport actually stand up and declare a dog of not being of 'whippet like' appearance then it doesn't make one iota of difference to what we all think and as Tony says both whippet and greyhounds are very similar genetically so realistically I think it'll never happen.

 

[posh totty]

stunning dog geoff!!!! :thumbsup: bet he was an above average pot filler!!! :thumbsup:

 

[milly]

stunning dog geoff!!!!  :thumbsup: bet he was an above average pot filler!!!  :thumbsup:

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She was a good lamping bitch :thumbsup: and liked a run on a charlie

I'd got more wind in my sale then :lol:

 

[posh totty]

stunning dog geoff!!!!  :thumbsup: bet he was an above average pot filler!!!  :thumbsup:

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She was a good lamping bitch :thumbsup: and liked a run on a charlie

I'd got more wind in my sale then :lol:

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sorry didnt read he was in fact a she :b still pure class by the look of her :thumbsup:

 

[milly]

stunning dog geoff!!!!  :thumbsup: bet he was an above average pot filler!!!  :thumbsup:

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She was a good lamping bitch :thumbsup: and liked a run on a charlie

I'd got more wind in my sale then :lol:

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sorry didnt read he was in fact a she :b still pure class by the look of her :thumbsup:

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No probs :thumbsup: and thanks

 

[mutley]

pedigree whippets are true whippets all our non ped racers are snacks sight hounds long dogs or whatever we call them ) so all non ped racers are not true whippets :- " so no matter what size they can still race ) lets face it without greyhounds we wouldn't have non ped racers :- " didnt little lucy have collie in her or little mary ,geoff sure its one of them :thumbsup:

 

[milly]

pedigree whippets are true whippets   all our non ped racers are snacks sight hounds long dogs or whatever we call  them )   so all non ped racers are not true whippets :- "  so no matter what size they can still race  ) lets face it without greyhounds we  wouldn't have non ped racers :- " didnt little lucy have collie in her or little mary ,geoff sure its one of them :thumbsup:

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Which Lucy :blink: Which Mary :blink: and which ferking geoff? :lol:

 

[mutley]

a couple of whippets from way back ) and you mr milly

 

[milly]

a couple of whippets from way back  ) and you mr milly

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Our Maisy Grey had a bit of Saluki in her breeding,also her litter sister Mini Ginny

Mr Mutley

 

[sadieandco]

Little Lucy - apparently

 

[mutley]

ok mr milly lol

 

[ahorsnall]

pedigree whippets are true whippets   all our non ped racers are snacks sight hounds long dogs or whatever we call  them )   so all non ped racers are not true whippets :- "  so no matter what size they can still race  ) lets face it without greyhounds we  wouldn't have non ped racers :- " didnt little lucy have collie in her or little mary ,geoff sure its one of them :thumbsup:

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i disagree i see a kc reg whippet as a proper show animal not a racing dog at all bred just to conform with breed standards.now a racing whippet is bred to be the fastiest dog there is of equal size. bred just for speed for decades now yes there is greyhound in them as was put in for new blood,but do you think the much prized race horse was put down as a mongrel because arabian stallions was used with great results making them faster and thus worth a great deal more than the slower uncrossed race horses :thumbsup: so the thing is in imo greyhound blood should be used when needed and not just for the sake of it,to keep the blood that as been raced for so long.so i beleave they,ve got great pedigrees for what they are racing dogs :thumbsup: so to me there racing whippets :thumbsup:

 

[dazgail]

stunning dog geoff!!!!  :thumbsup: bet he was an above average pot filler!!!  :thumbsup:

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She was a good lamping bitch :thumbsup: and liked a run on a charlie

I'd got more wind in my sale then :lol:

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sorry didnt read he was in fact a she :b still pure class by the look of her :thumbsup:

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Class photo Geoff.....but hey wots up with the soot over your face.....just up from the coal mines or an audition for oliver twist :teehee:

 

[wild whippies]

Agree totally the Kennel Club had no involvement in their creation whatsoever. In my opinion all they did was fix the breed to a type by restriction in breeding and I feel they're now an entirely different dog altogether. To me the term whippet is the same as lurcher and terrier, it refers to a type of dog not a specific breed as whippets we're never created to be a set type physically. If anything non-ped whippets are more true to type than pedigrees because they are sticking to the agenda they were originally bred for ie sprint racing. The addition of terrier to add muscle and greyhound to give speed where always ingrediants of the whippet, the muscle from terriers does seem to be retained within non-peds probably due to the gene that some of those dogs carry that occasionally appears as a bully whippet. The greyhound gene I believe has a need to be reintroduced not just for speed but also for size and that's why we have to keep referring back to it, not only that but they're gene pool is so vast and of such a higher calibre in comparison to our own. Say what you will about dogs of the past, as far as I'm concerned non-ped whippets as a whole are getting faster, it's meerly a process of succesful evolution. Referring back to greyhounds on occasion facilitates this because they too are improving all the while.