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[GRAHAM PEM]

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right before i start let me just say i agree with having clearing passes for non ped racing but no one will ever tell me that by having clearing trials on the STRAIGHTS it makes your dog a proven BEND ANIMAL BECAUSE STRAIGHT AND BEND RACING ARE A TOTALY DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

ive taken my time with my dog for 2 reasons ill heath and also there was no need for me to rush her into racing as i had no intension of straiht racing her my choice my dog .

SHE HAS BEEN ROUND ASKERN 6 TIMES AND HIGHGATE 20 TIMES SO IN MY OPINION THAT IS WHAT I CALL PROPER TRAINING NOT O SHES BEEN A GOOD GIRL ON THE STRAIGHTS SHE OK FOR BEND RACING AS ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS THAT IS RUBBISH AS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE SEE DOGS TURN BACK ON THE BENDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SCHOOLED RIGHT.

SO IVE MADE MY MIND UP TO LET HER GO TO A LOVELY NEW HOME.

NEVER SAY NEVER BUT THATS ME DONE WITH NON PED RACING.

SO COME ON PEOPLE WHAT MAKES A BEND DOG OR BITCH YOUR OPINIONS WELCOME.

 

[Vicky]

This rule whilst good in theory will always affect some dogs when it comes to bend racing.

Our straight club closes in September so a dog that's been slow to come on might not have had it's passes by the time the bends start. If you HAVE to have a pass to clear it on the straight before it can run the bends it could be 6 months down the line before that dog runs at a straight club again. When we move on to club racing at Westhoughton the dog could have 6 months to prove it runs clean on the bends and surely could be issued a clearance pass FOR THE BENDS ONLY, to be going on with. To be honest if it was us, whilst we've got dogs running the bends we wouldn't have the time to travel to other clubs over winter to get it a clearing pass on the straights and i'm sure there's plenty of other people in the same boat.

Graham i can't understand why you haven't had your passes at Maltby or whichever is your nearest club, for the sake of a few weeks whilst she's seen to run clean, i'm sure you could have sorted something out, also you've said your dog has been round 6 times at Askern and 20 times at Highgate but you haven't said whether it's run clean in company there.

BUT

I do get your point though, by clearing a dog on the straight does not mean bugger all when it comes to bend racing, we have a 6 year old dog with titles that anyone in the country would say runs clean on the straights, put him on the bends and although he's fast enough with stamina to burn, as soon as he gets challenged for the outside he'll want to mess about. Also bend racing is sometimes a last resort for dogs that have turned their heads on the straights and has straightened plenty of dogs up in the past.

Most problems on the bends aren't caused by dogs turning their head, but by inexperienced dogs that can't get round a bend. The current ruling would allow that dog to have a clearing pass on the straights, have a couple of solo runs round Highgate Sunday just gone and then enter the next NNWRF event. I know it states "experienced bend dogs only" but reality is that the owner is well within their rights to enter. I'd prefer to run in a bend open with a dog that's been round the track 20 times than one that's proved to run clean on the straights.

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

Vicky

Yes she has run in company on the bends and has run clean.

 

[Paws123]

right before i start let me just say i agree with having clearing passes for non ped racing but no one will ever tell me that by having clearing trials on the STRAIGHTS it makes your dog a proven BEND ANIMAL BECAUSE STRAIGHT AND BEND RACING ARE A TOTALY DIFFERENT ANIMAL.ive taken my time with my dog for 2 reasons ill heath and also there was no need for me to rush her into racing as i had no intension of straiht racing her my choice my dog .

SHE HAS BEEN ROUND ASKERN 6 TIMES AND HIGHGATE 20 TIMES SO IN MY OPINION THAT IS WHAT I CALL PROPER TRAINING NOT O SHES BEEN A GOOD GIRL ON THE STRAIGHTS SHE OK FOR BEND RACING AS ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS THAT IS RUBBISH AS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE SEE DOGS TURN BACK ON THE BENDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SCHOOLED RIGHT.

SO IVE MADE MY MIND UP TO LET HER GO TO A LOVELY NEW HOME.

NEVER SAY NEVER BUT THATS ME DONE WITH NON PED RACING.

SO COME ON PEOPLE WHAT MAKES A BEND DOG OR BITCH YOUR OPINIONS WELCOME.

Clearance passes are not to prove whether you got a dog that can run the bends Graham..they where simply introduced for youngsters at first in hope people would school them up at there clubs and they where running clean in company (2 or more dog racers) before entering them in NNWRF events ..then someone pointed out that over 18 month old dogs where new regs and asked if we would apply the same rule to them so we did..

 

[milly]

I can see your point, but for the sake of 1 or 2 outings to Maltby Graham, problem solved :thumbsup: I'm sure if you can't get to Maltby on saturday morning Fleesh would help.

 

[rodders]

Seems a bit daft to give up racing for the sake of a couple of runs on the straight.If she's run in company on the bends,which lets face it can phase the best of a straight dog.Then running her in company on the straights should in theory :lol: be easy for her.Remember seeing her have a run at Shirebrook.Was that not in company?

 

[Paws123]

HE HAS BEEN ROUND ASKERN 6 TIMES AND HIGHGATE 20 TIMES SO IN MY OPINION THAT IS WHAT I CALL PROPER TRAINING NOT O SHES BEEN A GOOD GIRL ON THE STRAIGHTS SHE OK FOR BEND RACING AS ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN KNOWS THAT IS RUBBISH AS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE SEE DOGS TURN BACK ON THE BENDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SCHOOLED RIGHT.

Sorry also meant to say ...i don't see what racing experience she has gain from 26 solo runs if that's the case ...all racing experience come from racing in company with 4 / 5 other dogs, its not just simply running up or around a straight or bend track its knowing how to pass and be passed ect..and believe me not all fast bend dogs are good bend dogs some don't have the brain for it..

 

[Fleesh's Mum]

Laoise has been round Highgate in several 3 dog trials with Moany Moany and Magical Moany, running from inside, middle and wide boxes. She's been passed by Moany Moany, has raced neck and neck with, and passed Magical Moany.

Just to clear that up

 

[Paws123]

Thanks Judith :thumbsup:

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

Laoise has been round Highgate in several 3 dog trials with Moany Moany and Magical Moany, running from inside, middle and wide boxes. She's been passed by Moany Moany, has raced neck and neck with, and passed Magical Moany.
Just to clear that up

thanks :thumbsup:

 

[hellbound]

just a point but what happens if your dog dont fit in a straight trap how do you get a pass then ???

 

[halloween]

just a point but what happens if your dog dont fit in a straight trap how do you get a pass then ???

Buy a whippet?

 

[mutley]

youve had plenty of time graham everyone else does it as has been said theres plenty of clubs on your doorstep so cant see the problem the rule was put in for youngsters hoping it would stop folks entering into ANY opens with an unproven dog i know you and do know you wouldnt enTer into a race with a dodgy dog but the rule is in place as you said its your choice wether u run bends or straights but cant see why you cant just nip to a club and sort it OUT JOB DONE the pass rule seems to have worked quite well and will continue to hopefully remember this was put in to help in the safety of racing whippets ......and dont see why anyone should be above the rule but there again we get the same lold crap about something everytime the bends start if you dont wish to abide bye the rules thats your choice .

 

[Paws123]

just a point but what happens if your dog dont fit in a straight trap how do you get a pass then ???

We have been doing a bit of research on this for some time now theres a post in the NNWRF SECTION on k9 think its in update /forms ect

I know it will be getting discussed at our com meeting this year

 

[sherry]

well as u all know i dont bend race so this is just my opinion on this topic. ok is fleesh not a commitee member of the nnwrf? fleesh has ran her 2 dogs on the bends with graemes and has seen the dog run clean with 2 dogs yes on the bends but its still ran clean. wud this not be enuf for fleesh to sign the schooling pass? its a bit like say me i dont race mine on the bends so wudnt want to have to race them on the bends to get a schooling pass 4 the straights.

can i also just ask is it just the nnwrf who have this rule? if the answer is yes then graeme cud run @ any club opens ie westhoughton or any bwra opens on the bends cant he?

 

[weathergirls]

The schooling passes were brought in by the NNWRF at the start of 2009 firstly to try and get owners to school their pups etc properly instead of just entering them into a race wether they fought or not, spoiling the race and risking injury to others, with the help of the club secretary's which is very much appreciated by the NNWRF it has proved to be working, there will allways be something that slips through the net so to speak thats human nature but were getting there,

As for bend racing owners have to take some responsibillity for the welfare of their dogs and others as the majority do and carry on to the next stage of training them to run the bends with the knowledge their dog is not a fighter

The NNWRF do not allow dogs to enter a puppy race under the age of 9 mths or into adult race until the age of 12 mths in straight racing

No dog under the age of 12 mnths is allowed to enter a NNWRF bend event, There is ample time for owners to get their dogs right if they can just be bothered to make the effort and I am more than happy to say the majority of us do that

EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO A STRAIGHT CLUB AND THEY HAVE TO BELONG TO ONE TO JOIN THE BWRA

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

am i right in thinking this so long as your dog or bitch are schooled on the straights you could if you wanted enter them into a NWRF BEND OPEN hope im wrong cos this is just madness.

 

[JOHNG]

surely if a dog is proven to run straight in company on the bends I.M.O. it should be allowed to race.

 

[hotlipspaige]

well as u all know i dont bend race so this is just my opinion on this topic. ok is fleesh not a commitee member of the nnwrf? fleesh has ran her 2 dogs on the bends with graemes and has seen the dog run clean with 2 dogs yes on the bends but its still ran clean. wud this not be enuf for fleesh to sign the schooling pass? its a bit like say me i dont race mine on the bends so wudnt want to have to race them on the bends to get a schooling pass 4 the straights.can i also just ask is it just the nnwrf who have this rule? if the answer is yes then graeme cud run @ any club opens ie westhoughton or any bwra opens on the bends cant he?

Agree with u sherry!! If fleesh has seen the dog race who is NNWRF person......surely she could sign the form???

 

[weathergirls]

am i right in thinking this so long as your dog or bitch are schooled on the straights you could if you wanted enter them into a NWRF BEND OPEN hope im wrong cos this is just madness.

if you read my post proper Graham it does NOT say that at all, whilst you are on can you answer a question why did you not get clearance when you were trialing on the straight in June of this year she would have been around 16mnths old then wouldn't she