Kisko And Evans

[jayp]

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This is an interview with Caroline Kisko from the KC followed by Mark Evans from the RSPCA discussing the report into the welfare of pedigree dogs

Listen with an open mind to the facts as presented and NOT the organisation presenting them.......

http://www.dogworld.co.uk/News/7-interview

 

[jayp]

Any thoughts anyone ?

 

[maggie217]

Interesting. As we know the KC have been working on some issues and have recently increased their efforts somewhat.

But I also think, while pressing for more action and research etc. the RSPCA have moved away from their original agonistic standpoint, and are now spoeaking more realistically. Get working together :thumbsup:

 

[Avalonia]

Interesting. As we know the KC have been working on some issues and have recently increased their efforts somewhat.But I also think, while pressing for more action and research etc. the RSPCA have moved away from their original agonistic standpoint, and are now spoeaking more realistically. Get working together :thumbsup:

Greetings from Canada. I also listened to the entire two interviews and would say that my concern remains the uni-focus of the RSPCA -- almost entirely on pedigree (KC registered dogs) and not on purebred dogs whom individuals may breed and sell to the pet community that are not necessarily registered with the KC. As an outsider looking in, I cannot see how anything meaningful can be gained unless and until there is some sort of reporting system -- likely through vets as they are the source of information when dogs are taken in for routine shots or analysis of problems -- that looks at the totality of purebred dogs, KC registered or not. Especially in the whippet community in the UK where there appears to be a large population of whippets bred for pets by persons who may have purchased a KC registered dog then who have then chosen to go off line - away from registering and simply breed to produce examples of the breed without the bother and cost of registration or including those who are registering dogs because it is monetarily advantageous to do so, but without any specific breeding program except to make money. think it is important to survey all dogs, not just those owned and bred by show people, but all examples of a breed. It is also important that they assess the 'health' or lack of 'health' of cross bred dogs which many of the activists suggest are 'healthier' than purebreds, despite the fact these dogs are often bred from dogs with problems within the parentage of their dam and sire, whatever their breed. Breeding a labrador and poodle does not necessarily produce a good dog if the labradoodle has the health problems of one or both of the parents - the lab and the poodle.

In order to efficiently assess what is, and is not happening with dogs, there should be a requirement that all dogs must be identified somehow - be this tattoo or microchip -- and dna tested -- and a data base should be set up based on returns from vet practices of this information from the dogs they tend to and vaccinate and treat, so that as the years progress and diseases, disabilities and mortality progresses -- there is a clear handle on what is producing what problem and what is not producing any problem.

I do not think you can isolate purebred dogs that are KC registered and put the blame for unhealthy dogs solely on them, though some breeds, and some breeders pay scant attention to health issues within those breeds. But to catch the bad you must be able to assess the totality of the breed's use and assess what is there and where it comes from, and only identification and dna testing can tell you much with reliable data going down the line.

The three year expectation of RSPCA's study is far too short... if you really want to know what is going on then beginning on an effective date, every dog born in the UK that ever visits a vet should be identified so that its health progress or lack thereof can be recorded over time and that huge data base of actual results, going forward, becomes the moveable feast that provides for each breed or cross breed a snapshot in time of what is actually happening.

Lanny