Labradoodle

[kim & Tilly]

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Ok on another forum someone is buying a labradoodle pup (£350)

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we have found a breeder and am having regualar chats with her so that my knowledge is there when the puppies are born.... well if she has puppies in that time that we want one, if not we will wait or if before she has said she will hold onto one for us to return so that even if it will be that bit older (4 months etc instead of 8 weeks) because she hand picks the people who get her puppies shes KC registered so is a well established breeder but only breeds 3 litters a year, shes just had one and has already had one this year so shes waiting untill next year to breed again mum is a chocolate lab and the dad is a white poodle.... the puppys are LUSH!!

So my questions are

Are Labradoodles peds?

Will they then be KC registered?

If the breeder is KC registered, but the pups arent ped, what does that mean?

What sort of pups do they make ie are they good with kids,?

Any other info would be great

 

[morganna]

Labradoodles are CROSS BREDS not Pedigree.

They will NOT be KC rgeistered as they are not pedigree.

The breeder has a listing on the KC list of breeders of pedigree pups NOTHING to do with non peds.

The one that lives near to me is BLACK,coat is poodle like - curly and unkempt,head and body of a labrador,tail that is high set and curls over the back as a poodles would if not docked to some extent.Highly exuberant,noisy,lacking in any social graces,pulls his owners all over the place,does not like other dogs and is always chasing kids when off the lead.

Before anyone says " I'm Predjudiced against cross breds - my two present dogs are lurchers"

This particular labradoodle has none of the charms of either breed that produced it and it's hard to say why it was ever produced at such expense for such a family as it lives with!!!!!

 

[wilfred]

My own knowledge of the above is:

The puppies can't be registered; they are cross-breeds, not a whole new registered breed. I have heard of such puppies ("Labradoodles"; "Cockerpoos" etc) selling for high sums of money because people have got quite excited at the thought of having one of these "rare" breeds.

Although I firmly believe every life has its own value, I'd question paying a heck of a lot for a cross-bred dog.

Also, breeds which have health issues have screening programmes, which responsible breeders abide by: these would seem to have little or no value when breeding completely different breeds with each other, from what I have read.

I would presume that the resulting puppies would be no better or nor worse than most other types of dog in their interaction with children; I think it would all depend on how the dog and child/ren were brought up to respect each other.

That's my take on it all, anyway What do others think?

 

[FeeFee]

No, labradoodles aren't peds and aren't recognised by the KC at the moment.

If the breeder is saying she's KC registered I assume that means she's breeding first crosses from KC registered parents.

I've seen several labradoodles, and there were huge differences between them. Some were very 'poodle' and some were much more 'labrador'. The ones I met were bouncy/high energy, but I don't know if that's typical.

I'd be VERY careful about the breeder. Expensive crossbreeds are unfortunately a way for some unscrupulous breeders to breed their poor bitches every season, alternating ped litters they can register with the KC and crosses they can sell at designer-dog prices.

 

[dolly]

Its a way breeders can charge a fortune for crossbreeds, by giving them fancy names :rant:

 

[hely]

my friend had just paid a fortune for one, was told it wouldnt shed its coat...........ha, thats a laugh her house is covered :- "

nothing more that a cross breed, people think they are getting a top notch dog when in fact its just a cross breed :blink:

not thats theres anything wrong with a cross breed, but spending £900 on one is just a bloody rip off :angry:

 

[kim & Tilly]

Thank you

I will let her know

 

[Joanna]

It's a lot of money for a mongrel Kim! :- " People like this talk the talk and walk the walk! Sadly, they just prey on the poor folk who don't have the knowledge to realise what they are buying into.

 

[Strike Whippets]

I personally thought that Poodles were crossed with Labradors firstly by guide dogs for the blind, to try and breed a "non" shedding dog for people with allergies ......then people jumped on the band wagon as they were seen as fashionable cross breds :angry: .......The only few that I have known have been mad, and one of them was VERY nasty ........I personally wouldn't have one with kids as they can be very flighty if not trained properly ......

Must say though that £350 for a well reared pup of ANY kind is good though :thumbsup: .....As breeding and rearing properly is VERY expensive

 

[kim & Tilly]

It's a lot of money for a mongrel Kim! :- " People like this talk the talk and walk the walk! Sadly, they just prey on the poor folk who don't have the knowledge to realise what they are buying into.

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Yeah i know, i wouldnt pay it

But some people believe all the breeder tells them :- "

 

[jinx and rubys mum]

At the end of the day its a cross breed mongrel

The poodle part makes them highly strung and the labrador part prone to being over weight if not excercised enough.

I wouldnt leave then with kids of any age and would advise against it imagine if it has the bad bits from both breeds arent labs prone to bad hips? and Im sure there is something poodles are prone too.

 

[fewterer]

Some sources of information and advice:

Labradoodle rescue - about Labradoodles

UK Labradoodle forum

 

[oakmoorehill]

At a show recently I was talking to a woman whose friend had allowed her labrador stud dog to sire a litter of labradoodles. She told me that some do moult it depends which parent the pup takes after ifit sides more with the labrador it will still moult. They are also as previosly bee said they tend to be high energy.

Someone at work owns one as he is allergic to dogs and his sides more to the poodle he says it needs a lot of exercise as it tends to be a little hypo

 

[maggie217]

It annoys me intensely that people should purposely breed these 'mongrels'. Surely if the important part is that if someone is allergic to dogs then they should get a non-shedding purebred dog such as a poodle. There can be no guarantee that a 'Labradoodle' will have a non-shedding coat so it is all a scam. I have seen some such misleading adverts for such 'designer dogs' that if the 'product' was anything else but a dog Trading Standards would be involved.

 

[FeeFee]

Of course if you don't fancy a labradoodle there are plenty of other mongrels designer hybrids to choose from :- "

http://www.achclub.com/modules.php?name=Breeders

 

[JAX]

I was at my vets recentley when one of his clients came in and said she was getting a Labradoodle that was 4th generation labradoodle :wacko:

My vet put her straight of course , But some folk will beleive anything wont they , and she was paying £650.00 for it too (w00t)

 

[hely]

I was at my vets recentley when one of his clients came in and said she was getting a Labradoodle that was 4th generation labradoodle  :wacko:
My vet put her straight of course  , But some folk will beleive anything wont they ,   and she was paying £650.00 for it too  (w00t)

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MY FRIEND JUST PAID £900

 

[jinx and rubys mum]

[SIZE=21pt]MONEY MONEY MONEY[/SIZE]

[SIZE=21pt]ITS A RICH MANS WORLD[/SIZE]

:- " :- " :- " :- " or is that just stupid!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mabelline]

Thes people work on the basis of 'there's one born every minute!'

 

[05whippet]

At the end of the day its a cross breed mongrel The poodle part makes them highly strung and the labrador part prone to being over weight if not excercised enough.

I wouldnt leave then with kids of any age and would advise against it imagine if it has the bad bits from both breeds arent labs prone to bad hips? and Im sure there is something poodles are prone too.

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Yep...it's called PRA! or Progressive Retinal Atrophy and is an extremely prolific eye problem in Poodles.

DEFINITION OF PRA

~ Progressive

a slowly developing disease process ~ the affected dog will gradually lose its sight and will usually adjust to its handicap

~ Retinal

of the retina ~ the light-sensitive area at the back of the eye

~ Atrophy

degeneration or deterioration ~ of the specialised light-sensitive cells in the retina

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DISEASE PROGRESSION

Initially, a dog with PRA will develop "night-blindness" i.e. it will eventually be unable to see in dim light conditions or in the dark. This is due to atrophy, or degeneration, of the rods. The owner may notice that the dog is reluctant to go out in the dark and hesitant to do down stairs in poor light. The dog may also appear to be a little "clumsy" i.e. bumping into things.

In the later stages of the disease, the cones are affected, and the dog's daytime vision will gradually deteriorate.