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[Seraphina]

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Many people swear by giving pregnant bitches rasberry leaf tablets, i never did before, but Callista looks so misserable I did buy a bottle. I have based the dose on the recomended one for humans, giving her 1/2 a tab twice a day. Does anybody have experience with it?

She still has a morning sickness, only eating tiny amounts if i hand feed her during the day, in the evening she eats little bit more. I never seen this in any other breed until i got a Whippet. Marlie, my first Whippet, even suffered during her seasons.

 

[elmaro]

I remember Dad giving these to the Dobes when they were in whelp ... can't remember them ever getting morning sickness though ... I think it was more of a "just in case" kind of thing

 

[Sarsanet]

Many people swear by giving pregnant bitches rasberry leaf tablets, i never did before, but Callista looks so misserable I did buy a bottle.  I have based the dose on the recomended one for humans, giving her 1/2 a tab twice a day.  Does anybody have experience with it?  She still has a morning sickness, only eating tiny amounts if i hand feed her during the day, in the evening she eats little bit more.  I never seen this in any other breed until i got a Whippet.  Marlie, my first Whippet, even suffered during her seasons.

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Lida, Don Gray is one who swears by raspberry leaf for pregnant bitches he used it for years. I have just consulted the Dorwest Herbs booklet which says, for Callista's size, 2 - 3 tablets per day from the 3rd week of pregnancy until 1 week after delivery. Their pills are 150mg size. You can ask them for more info on info@dorwest.com They have a branch in Sydney, you can contact sarahgriffin@bigpond.com

I am using them for Alice's incontinence, she will eat their pills out of my hand. However, the smallest dose of tablets I could buy in a chemist or health food shop is 300ml so I just give her 1 a day instead of 2.

Good luck, I hope it works for you, or should I say Callista!

Gail.

 

[jools]

Poor Callista, I can't suggest anything for morning sickness, Folly only had it for a few days early on.

I used rasperry leaf tablets from Dorwest, so dose was for a dog . I can onky say that I have had no problems with whelping, so I would always use it. My friends Pharaoh had a long slow whelping first time, I suggested raspberry leaf and she "popped" 5 beautiful puppies out with no problems 2nd time.

I hope someone can come up with something more helpful for her.

Cuddles to Callista, not too long to go now :huggles: :huggles:

Sorry I posted this at the same time as GailK, there was someone moor helpful!!

 

[Seraphina]

Thanks everybody, it looks i am giving her the right dose, half a tab (300mg/tab) twice a day. The human instruction said from the 3rd trimester, so i started her 3 weeks before the due date. Although I am sure she will be early, nobody seem to go the 63 days anymore.

(w00t) I think I just saw a litle kick on Callista's tummy :wub: :wub: :wub:

 

[saraquele]

jan had morning sickness from week 3/4 and only went off her food for a few days so she was lucky in some ways .

ive heard raspberry leaf can work too .

what about ginger ?

that is supposed to help pregnant women with morning sickness ?

will she eat ginger nut biscuits

good luck , i hope she feels better soon :huggles:

 

[Seraphina]

jan had morning sickness from week 3/4 and only went off her food for a few days so she was lucky in some ways .
ive heard raspberry leaf can work too .

what about ginger ?

that is supposed to help pregnant women with morning sickness ?

will she eat ginger nut biscuits 

good luck , i hope she feels better soon  :huggles:

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Callista is not actually vomiting, she just does not seem to be intersted in food and looks very uncomfortable. I hand feed her small amounts and she just takes few mouthfuls and then does not want anymore. In the evening her eyes lite up everytime i offer her food and she eats bigger portions. Her belly is so full i am not surprised she cannot eat big meals. That is quite normal, I always feed my pregnant bitches several several times a day from about the 5 weeks on. But I had never had anybody quite so unhappy. Wonder if my whelping box need an extension. (w00t)

 

[~JO~]

Many people swear by giving pregnant bitches rasberry leaf tablets, i never did before, but Callista looks so misserable I did buy a bottle.  I have based the dose on the recomended one for humans, giving her 1/2 a tab twice a day.  Does anybody have experience with it?  She still has a morning sickness, only eating tiny amounts if i hand feed her during the day, in the evening she eats little bit more.  I never seen this in any other breed until i got a Whippet.  Marlie, my first Whippet, even suffered during her seasons.

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The raspberry leaf tablets form Dorwest are actually Licenced for use in dogs - as the ingredient is of sufficient quality and in the correct concentration to be cosnidered safe and beneficial.

If you are giving a tablet bought from the health food shop or similar there are no controls that it is in the right concentration or has a high quality. This is why when possible it is always best to use something that is licenced for animal use.

The raspberry leaf tablets from Dorwest contain Raspberry leaf that has reached the EHP (european herbal pharmocopeia) standard and in these tablets it is in the concentration 3:1 - therefore 150mg is equalivalent of 450mg.

I wouldn't risk given a inferior product to any dog let alone one in whelp. How do you know that the fillers and binders they use are suitable for pregnant bitches? Please be careful when buying any products that are not licensed for dogs.

 

[Seraphina]

If you are giving a tablet bought from the health food shop or similar there are no controls that it is in the right concentration or has a high quality.  This is why when possible it is always best to use something that is licenced for animal use.

I wouldn't risk given a inferior product to any dog let alone one in whelp.  How do you know that the fillers and binders they use are suitable for pregnant bitches?  Please be careful when buying any products that are not licensed for dogs.

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The tabs i have are manufactured by Blackmores, which is the oldest and most respected natural remedies manufacturer in OZ. These tabs are sold in chemists as well as health food shops specifically to pregnant women, somehow I doubt that their quality would be inferior. If i order the Dorwest now, they will not get here until after the pups are born. I will definitely remeber them for the next litter though. Thanks

 

[dessie]

I have always used Raspberry Leaf tablets on my bitches (from Dorwest) from Day 21 after mating and they have always had their puppies really easily ............... until Aimee and I forgot to get them for her. Don't know why and she had an awful time having her pups. So won't forget them in future!

I have also used Caulyphyllum in the past as well.

None of my Whippies have had morning sickness but some of my Cockers used to become picky eaters around about week 3 of pregnancy, obviously feeling sick but not unwell. That would last until about week 4 then they were as right as ninepence again.

 

[alfyn]

I think raspberry leaf is great in most cases,& have used them on various bitches over the years,but unfortunately they didn't agree with Poppy & made her quite poorly

 

[~JO~]

If you are giving a tablet bought from the health food shop or similar there are no controls that it is in the right concentration or has a high quality.  This is why when possible it is always best to use something that is licenced for animal use.

I wouldn't risk given a inferior product to any dog let alone one in whelp.  How do you know that the fillers and binders they use are suitable for pregnant bitches?  Please be careful when buying any products that are not licensed for dogs.

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The tabs i have are manufactured by Blackmores, which is the oldest and most respected natural remedies manufacturer in OZ. These tabs are sold in chemists as well as health food shops specifically to pregnant women, somehow I doubt that their quality would be inferior. If i order the Dorwest now, they will not get here until after the pups are born. I will definitely remeber them for the next litter though. Thanks

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I just wanted to make it clear that they are all not the same quality - but it sounds like the ones you are using are probably at the better end of the market!

Good luck with the litter :thumbsup:

Rasberry leaf action : it helps tone smooth muscle (uterus) it also ensures the placenta is expelled easily.

Just another little interesting note...the toning smooth muscle action is why there is more and more thought now that it helps with bitches suffering from incontinence following loss of muscle tone after neutering in particular. -we have had some good reports back although this is an 'off-licence' use. Thats why Sarah in Oz recommended them for your bitch Gail!

 

[~JO~]

If you are giving a tablet bought from the health food shop or similar there are no controls that it is in the right concentration or has a high quality.  This is why when possible it is always best to use something that is licenced for animal use.

I wouldn't risk given a inferior product to any dog let alone one in whelp.  How do you know that the fillers and binders they use are suitable for pregnant bitches?  Please be careful when buying any products that are not licensed for dogs.

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The tabs i have are manufactured by Blackmores, which is the oldest and most respected natural remedies manufacturer in OZ. These tabs are sold in chemists as well as health food shops specifically to pregnant women, somehow I doubt that their quality would be inferior. If i order the Dorwest now, they will not get here until after the pups are born. I will definitely remeber them for the next litter though. Thanks

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Just had a look at Blackmores and they do seem like a very good company! Interestingly it is mainly due to the fact that Australia has got legislation that covers this VERY large grey sector... unlike the UK & the US. Of course this all only covers Human usage and not animals.

You can see on their website they do test their ingredients for quality and safety and have licensing grades - thanks for making me aware of this company, very interesting :thumbsup:

 

[Seraphina]

Just had a look at Blackmores and they do seem like a very good company!  Interestingly it is mainly due to the fact that Australia has got legislation that covers this VERY large grey sector... unlike the UK & the US.  Of course this all only covers Human usage and not animals.

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Regulations, yep that is Australia, we have lot of regulations. In the case of medications totally justifiable, though.

I started looking for raspberry leave when Callista was visiting her boyfriend interstate and had problems finding them at all. I did not want to get them on line as you really do not know where they are coming from, are they stored properly etc. Cannot believe I did not think of asking on k9.

Callista had such a tiny waist before getting pregnant, she really did not have a space for pups in her abdomen. Now she is like a little barrel on sticks, she can hardly jump on sofa. No wonder she is feeling uncomfortable :sweating: