Out Of Interest........

[Lydia]

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Thought some of these pics might be of interest to those of us interested in showing.This is a side shot of Uggy Whippet,this side,the fawn patch over her shoulder,helps to enhance the lay of her shoulder.The fawn patch on her neck,makes her neck appear too short (it isn't),so,in a 'show ring,do you opt for this side of the dog to show,or her other side.......pic to follow.

Lyd

 

[Lydia]

Haven't got her front legs quite right in the above pic,there is actually more of an angle to the shoulder fawn patch than this pic depicts.

Lyd

 

[Lydia]

Right then,this is Uggy's other side,as you can see her neck looks better with out a fawn patch on it,but,the fawn patch over this shoulder is straighter,making her shoulder appear straighter.So if I wanted to show her,which would be the better side for the judge to veiw in a line up ?

I'd appreciate anybodies thoughts on this,I know which side I would show,but,as showing isn't important to me anymore,I doubt I'll ever show her.

Lyd

 

[jools]

I'm no expert (by a long, long way!!) but If she were mine I would stack her as in the 2nd pic. Uggy has a really nice length of neck and I feel the spot does take away from this slightly.

I have a "one sided whippet" Sky, and I always stack her the oppostie way to normal - I don't know if it really makes any diference, but I feel that I am giving her the best chance in the ring!!

 

[Juley]

I have had people tell me my bitch has a short neck ( she hasn't I have measured it against other bitches with " long" necks). I would go for the second pic.

 

[jezza]

I like the whippie with the devil eyes in the background :devil:

 

[kris]

im no whippy expert but i do know a bit about showing and presentation.i prefer the 2nd pic lyd. :wub: :thumbsup:

 

[Dusilla]

I agree with the others: the side in the 2nd pic is more advantageous. :thumbsup:

 

[dessie]

If it's a judge who is judging the dogs properly, i.e on construction and not markings, it shouldn't make a blind bit of difference!!

For the idiot judges I would show her as in the 2nd pic

 

[jools]

Sadly there are a lot of the first type judging though!!!

 

[Lydia]

If it's a judge who is judging the dogs properly, i.e on construction and not markings, it shouldn't make a blind bit of difference!! 
For the idiot judges I would show her as in the 2nd pic

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LOL,Dessie, if I ever show her,I'll present the side that shows her neck to it's advantage,unless it's you judging of course in which case it wont matter :thumbsup: .

You've also spotted that there are a few idiot judges then :- "

Lyd

 

[Lydia]

I like the whippie with the devil eyes in the background  :devil:  

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LOL, me too,it's Uggy's mum,wondering if I'm going to make her 'stand' and 'pose' hence the :devil: eyes.........Bluebell has always hated showing :- "

Lyd

 

[aslan]

Mmm ... 2nd pic I think. :wacko:

 

[dessie]

Sadly there are a lot of the first type judging though!!!

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Shouldn't that be the 2nd type???!!!!! LOL!!

 

[Karen]

The trouble is if you show her the 2nd way, when you move her for the judge the patched neck will be on the judges side. When Frodo was young people were constantly telling me they prefered the other side of him. I turned him a few times then him and me just got fed up so I just left him the usual way and said s** em.

I did know an exhibitor who used to think thier dog was constantly being chucked out because of its patchy markings but they had overlooked the 4 or 5 other faults that it had. :blink:

As Dessie says any good judge will see right through those markings.

Lastly, Lyd I think your puppy is a very nice shapely girl (both sides :thumbsup: ) perhaps you could home her near you and try to do a little bit of showing with her.

 

[kris]

i agree with you totally about judges but at the end of the day a dog show is a beauty competition and although a lot of judges wont be fooled why risk it.theres many things that give an optical illusion of various faults or virtues.the trick is presenting the latter to advantage and hiding the former as much as you can.of course a good judge will see through them,but sometimes we dont know if a judge is good or not until after the judging. :thumbsup: i can remember one well known allrounder who had a habit of letting you know what displeased him about your dog and what pleased him.he had a habit of lingering lovingly over a good point and smiling to himself and doing a similar thing over a fault but not smiling.he was letting you know your dogs strong features and weak points as he was going over it.he touched on my stud dogs back at one ch sh and i knew from the glance he thought he could do with more muscle and work there.(this was a very late developing dog who despite miles of roadwork didnt muscle up in his topline until he was well over 2)he was right.i also watched him going over a very well known professional handlers dog and he picked up the dogs foot and let it drop down into its natural position.it turned out instead of pointing ahead.the handler was a very clever handler who used to drop this particular dogs legs down into position and give them a slight twist as he placed them,in order to hide the fact that he had 10 to 2 feet.but this judge wasnt fooled and he let the handler know it.im not saying uggys feature is a fault (obviously it isnt)but when it comes to splitting hairs between her and an equally good dog or when you have an inexperienced judge why throw it in their faces?

 

[saraquele]

i agree with you totally about judges but at the end of the day a dog show is a beauty competition and  although a lot of judges wont be fooled why risk it.theres  many things that give an optical illusion of various faults or virtues.the trick is presenting the latter to advantage and hiding the former as much as you can.of course a good judge will see through them,but sometimes we dont know if a judge is good or not until after the judging. :thumbsup: i can remember one well known allrounder who had a habit of letting you know what displeased him about your dog and what pleased him.he had a habit of lingering lovingly over a good point and smiling to himself and doing a similar thing over a fault but not smiling.he was letting you know your dogs strong features and weak points as he was going over it.he touched on my stud dogs back at one ch sh and i knew from the glance he thought he could do with more muscle and work there.(this was a very late developing dog who despite miles of roadwork didnt muscle up in his topline until he was well over 2)he was right.i also watched him going over a very well known professional  handlers dog and he picked up the dogs foot and let it drop down into its natural position.it turned out instead of pointing ahead.the handler was a very clever handler who used to drop this particular dogs legs down into position and give them a slight twist as he placed them,in order to hide the fact that he had 10 to 2 feet.but this judge wasnt fooled and he let the handler know it.im not saying uggys  feature is a fault (obviously it isnt)but when it comes to splitting hairs between her and an equally good dog or when you have an inexperienced judge why throw it in their faces?

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if only all judges were the same :wub: :thumbsup:

 

[EJW]

I'd go for 2nd pic position :thumbsup: She looks lovely :wub:

 

[Lydia]

The trouble is if you show her the 2nd way, when you move her for the judge the patched neck will be on the judges side.  When Frodo was young people were constantly telling me they prefered the other side of him.  I turned him a few times then him and me just got fed up so I just left him the usual way and said s** em.

I did know an exhibitor who used to think thier dog was constantly being chucked out because of its patchy markings but they had overlooked the 4 or 5 other faults that it had. :blink:

As Dessie says any good judge will see right through those markings.

Lastly, Lyd I think your puppy is a very nice shapely girl (both sides :thumbsup: ) perhaps you could home her near you and try to do a little bit of showing with her.

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Hi Karen,

Good to see that you're still around ,Blob only managed to have 3 bitch pups,ideally,I'd have liked to keep them all.See how they matured etc.,and maybe showed all or some of them.Circumstances have changed......so 2 have gone to good homes,one is with Saraquele from this board,which is brilliant.Now that we've decided to keep Uggy,she'll stay put...........

After crufts is over,I'll take Uggy to ringcraft so she can learn the ropes and socialisation skills etc.But,showing isn't really important to me anymore.........

(w00t) I know my whippy's are the best-shant enter shows and keep beating the other exhibitors :- " ......(if only ) so shall stay at home (w00t) .

Lyd o