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[SIZE=14pt]I AM INCREASINGLY SEEING LOTS OF PUPPIES CROSSBRED AND SOLD FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON EPUPZ - THEY ARE RUINING THEIR BLOODLINES... WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS!!! JUST FOR MONEY WITHOUT A DOUBT....[/SIZE]

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS TO PAY £400 + FOR A MONGREL DOG...

PEOPLE SHOULD BOYCOTT THIS TYPE OF BREEDER... WHO KNOWS WHAT FAULTS THEY ARE BREEDING INTO THESE POOR DOGS... IF IT IS A MISTAKE THEN OK.... BUT EVEN THEN YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL IF YOU OWN DOGS AND BITCHES!

BUT THESE PEOPLE DO THIS ON PURPOSE THEY MAKE ME SICK....

I KNOW SOMEONE WHO RECENTLY BROUGHT A TOY CROSSBREED THE WOMAN WHO BREEDS THEM DOES IT PURPOSLEY AND SELLS THESE PUPPIES FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY - YOU COULD BUY A PEDIGREE DOG FOR THE PRICE SHE SELLS THESE MONGRELS FOR.. AND SHE BREEDS ALL THE TIME FROM HER POOR BITCH, IT'S A DOG NOT A BANK ON LEGS. :rant:

YEARS AGO PEOPLE COULD NOT GIVE MONGRELS AWAY.

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS SUBJECT?
 
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Because they give it a 'Special name' and its now worth loads

Like you say years ago it would have been called a mongrel or 'damm that next doors dog'
 
Because they are breeding a new breed the pups are not able to be registered and theres no way of monitoring how many litter a bitch has in its life never mind in one year - a sad fact - and people are charging huge amounts of money - say for "doodles".

i have a poodle and do not like poodle crosses and feel its a shame for the welfare of the breed.

i know that pedigree breeds were formed originally in the same manner so theres room for speculation here...... but its definitely becoming a money making venture at the expense of poor female dogs.
 
animalady said:
Because they are breeding a new breed the pups are not able to be registered and theres no way of monitoring how many litter a bitch has in its life never mind in one year - a sad fact - and people are charging huge amounts of money - say for "doodles".i have a poodle and do not like poodle crosses and feel its a shame for the welfare of the breed.

i know that pedigree breeds were formed originally in the same manner so theres room for speculation here...... but its definitely becoming a money making venture at the expense of poor female dogs.

I used to wonder why people were funny about selling bitches.... know i know why!
 
snapdogs said:
[SIZE=14pt]I AM INCREASINGLY SEEING LOTS OF PUPPIES CROSSBRED AND SOLD FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON EPUPZ -  THEY ARE RUINING THEIR BLOODLINES... WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS!!! JUST FOR MONEY WITHOUT A DOUBT....[/SIZE]WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS TO PAY £400 + FOR A MONGREL DOG...

PEOPLE SHOULD BOYCOTT THIS TYPE OF BREEDER... WHO KNOWS WHAT FAULTS THEY ARE BREEDING INTO THESE POOR DOGS... IF IT IS A MISTAKE THEN OK.... BUT EVEN THEN YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL IF YOU OWN DOGS AND BITCHES!

BUT THESE PEOPLE DO THIS ON PURPOSE THEY MAKE ME SICK....

I KNOW SOMEONE WHO RECENTLY BROUGHT A TOY CROSSBREED  THE WOMAN WHO BREEDS THEM DOES IT PURPOSLEY AND SELLS THESE PUPPIES FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY - YOU COULD BUY A PEDIGREE DOG FOR THE PRICE SHE SELLS THESE MONGRELS FOR.. AND SHE BREEDS ALL THE TIME FROM HER POOR BITCH, IT'S A DOG NOT A BANK ON LEGS. :rant:  

YEARS AGO PEOPLE COULD NOT GIVE MONGRELS AWAY.

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS SUBJECT?

why are they ruining their bloodlines?
 
masta said:
snapdogs said:
[SIZE=14pt]I AM INCREASINGLY SEEING LOTS OF PUPPIES CROSSBRED AND SOLD FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON EPUPZ -  THEY ARE RUINING THEIR BLOODLINES... WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS!!! JUST FOR MONEY WITHOUT A DOUBT....[/SIZE]WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS TO PAY £400 + FOR A MONGREL DOG...

PEOPLE SHOULD BOYCOTT THIS TYPE OF BREEDER... WHO KNOWS WHAT FAULTS THEY ARE BREEDING INTO THESE POOR DOGS... IF IT IS A MISTAKE THEN OK.... BUT EVEN THEN YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL IF YOU OWN DOGS AND BITCHES!

BUT THESE PEOPLE DO THIS ON PURPOSE THEY MAKE ME SICK....

I KNOW SOMEONE WHO RECENTLY BROUGHT A TOY CROSSBREED  THE WOMAN WHO BREEDS THEM DOES IT PURPOSLEY AND SELLS THESE PUPPIES FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY - YOU COULD BUY A PEDIGREE DOG FOR THE PRICE SHE SELLS THESE MONGRELS FOR.. AND SHE BREEDS ALL THE TIME FROM HER POOR BITCH, IT'S A DOG NOT A BANK ON LEGS. :rant:   

YEARS AGO PEOPLE COULD NOT GIVE MONGRELS AWAY.

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS SUBJECT?

why are they ruining their bloodlines?

because they are breeding with a different breed altogether!!!
 
snapdogs said:
masta said:
snapdogs said:
[SIZE=14pt]I AM INCREASINGLY SEEING LOTS OF PUPPIES CROSSBRED AND SOLD FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON EPUPZ -  THEY ARE RUINING THEIR BLOODLINES... WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS!!! JUST FOR MONEY WITHOUT A DOUBT....[/SIZE]WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS TO PAY £400 + FOR A MONGREL DOG...

PEOPLE SHOULD BOYCOTT THIS TYPE OF BREEDER... WHO KNOWS WHAT FAULTS THEY ARE BREEDING INTO THESE POOR DOGS... IF IT IS A MISTAKE THEN OK.... BUT EVEN THEN YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL IF YOU OWN DOGS AND BITCHES!

BUT THESE PEOPLE DO THIS ON PURPOSE THEY MAKE ME SICK....

I KNOW SOMEONE WHO RECENTLY BROUGHT A TOY CROSSBREED  THE WOMAN WHO BREEDS THEM DOES IT PURPOSLEY AND SELLS THESE PUPPIES FOR HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY - YOU COULD BUY A PEDIGREE DOG FOR THE PRICE SHE SELLS THESE MONGRELS FOR.. AND SHE BREEDS ALL THE TIME FROM HER POOR BITCH, IT'S A DOG NOT A BANK ON LEGS. :rant:   

YEARS AGO PEOPLE COULD NOT GIVE MONGRELS AWAY.

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS SUBJECT?

why are they ruining their bloodlines?

because they are breeding with a different breed altogether!!!

The Line is still there from the ped side, nothing would come back from the X line so why would it ruin anything, the main problem is puppy farmers churning out litters if these x's are bred responsibly ther is no issue with health or "bloodlines" being ruined. The labradoodle was orginally bred by the dogs for the blind and has since been taken on by an odd sporting owner and the feedback is very favourable in fact i read an article in gundog by a top trainer who had one in and he spoke very highly of it
 
Having a home full of crossbreeds I think the mongrel is very under rated.

But irresponsible breeding in any form, pedigree or not, is irresponsible breeding.
 
What I am going to say now surprises even me but it is first hand experience.

A couple I know have a little cross westie/shihtzu. They paid £300 for her. She is a delightful little dog, friendly and biddable, she is beautifully behaved and has responded well to training. She is also a good looking dog and is a brindley colour.

There have been no health issues.

Another couple I know had a bulldog who recently died. They paid well in excess of £1500 for him, loads and loads of health issues.

The first dog has been well worth the £300 paid for her in the love she has given, when I see her she greets me with a wagging tail and a kiss, I love her to bits and her owners could not be happier with their little dog.

We live in a world where it is not unknown to spend £500 on a handbag, £300 for a puppy which is going to give all those years of love and affection seems ok to me.

Jenny
 
I have to agree, I love the mutts, my last dog was a mixture of all sorts and he was the best dog in the world BUT he was a rescue, I didnt pay huge sums of money for him, I got him in a shelter. I agree that these are just cross breeds and should not cost that kind of money but give it a fancy name and then its a "designer dog" and puppy farmers are making a packet. Its disgusting to continually breed your dog in order to make money wheither it be a crossbreed or a pedigree. :rant:
 
There was something on here a few months ago showing some pics of "Posh (expensive) Crosses" & some almost identical dogs in rescue centres.

I also think it's scandalous to breed all these designer puppies when there are so many dogs/pups being PTS in centres up & down the country.

I bet if you took a scraggy rescue pup from a centre & gave it a posh name & a silly haircut :- " , someone would be fooled into parting with lots of money for it :rant:

I have rescue lurchers & any dog I get in the future will come from a rescue centre too :wub:
 
I agree. All our dogs have been rescued and I feel I have done a good deed! Plus i love the way my tutor describes a mongrel - and that is full of hybrid vigour! :* I personally dont believe in paying a huge amount for any dog, but thats because my dogs are pets and nothing else. So i also dont have a problem with people paying a lot of money for dogs who they want for a particular reason. What i do strongly disagree with is the fact there are people out ther who are breeding just for the purpose of making money! :rant: Also whilst i am on the subject - in my local paper there are ALWAYS adverts from the same people selling litters of pups from different breeds. I often mention this to others and i think that it may be a puppy farm. What does everyone else think?
 
I have seen many an advert for labradoodle puppies for sale at £800 upwards!
 
There were some X-bred puppies advertised on our local paper recently, can't remember the breeds but they were advertised with a pedigree and pet registration.

Well, anyone can write out a pedigree sheet and if the parents breeding is known it will actually be correct but a pedigree doesn't mean pure-bred of course. But this Pet registration...I have heard of something similar before ...has there been some organisation set up doing these kind of registrations?

Pauline
 
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I don't think it is only breeders of 'crossbreeds', designer or otherwise who are exploiting dogs for money, wev'e seen that on here recenlty. Look at all the pedigree specimens with the disasterous congenital faults - all available - just show the colour of your money....

As in all activities that people become involved in, i feel there is a lot of snobbery involved in producing dogs and a lot of people are guilty of 'do as i say, not as i do'.

I know several dogs who are deliberate poodle crosses. Handy, clever, healthy small dogs with non-shedding coats! I don't know how much they cost though!
 
TTT said:
I know several dogs who are deliberate poodle crosses.  Handy, clever, healthy small dogs with non-shedding coats!  I don't know how much they cost though!
But they aren't always non-shedding - depends on the genes they inherit. A pure bred poodle will be non-shedding though

Pauline
 
Interesting thread here,this argument has always raged,for over 35yrs I had pedigree hounds of various breeds and in that amount of time I can catagorically state that I met more than one or two breeders of PEDIGREE DOGS whose bitches were no more than puppy machines,churning pups out continually..usually to one of their own stud dogs,I am not just talking pet breeders here but well respected people, respected by owners,exhibitors,judges and breed afficienados of their particular breed.It really is NO SURPRISE that greed will allways outweigh the conscience of some people ..the KC tried to do their bit by limiting numbers of litters and age range,largely I feel to no avail..after all if you breed loads of pups then you know the way to surreptisiously add them to other allowable litters.

It follows therefore that the same type of person will diversify into what is now known as the designer dog area. I have paid out over the years for good quality dogs of various breeds who had impressive pedigree papers and who were, on the whole,healthy,typy specimens but equally have paid out,quite heavily in fact,on pedigree dogs who turned out to be NOT what they seemed for one reason or another including HIDDEN HEREDITARY conditions that were known to a privileged few BUT NO OUTSIDERS but that's another story,what about their bloodlines?

My dogs now are that thing you seem to revile... CROSSBREDS...MONGRELS..CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO..I CALL MINE LONGDOGS OR LURCHERS!!!

They were all crossed quite deliberately for traits that were required by their breeders for work/race/coursing.

Greyhound x Saluki produced one,a beautiful looking dog,able courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x Saluki greyhound produced another,again a looker,brilliant racer,good courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x deerhound produced the last of mine,handsome,substantial,fleet of foot,able to work on all legal game.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,they were bred with much forethought and for a specific purpose,they all are able to fulfill this purpose.

PUPPY FARMERS are exactly what it says on the label..mass producers of pups irrespective of WHAT TYPE they are.They come along in pedigree and cross bred dogs alike.Why critisise one section only?
 
morganna said:
Interesting thread here,this argument has always raged,for over 35yrs I had pedigree hounds of various breeds and in that amount of time I can catagorically state that I met more than one or two breeders of PEDIGREE DOGS whose bitches were no more than puppy machines,churning pups out continually..usually to one of their own stud dogs,I am not just talking pet breeders here but well respected people, respected by  owners,exhibitors,judges and breed afficienados of their particular breed.It really is NO SURPRISE that greed will allways outweigh the conscience of some people ..the KC tried to do their bit by limiting numbers of litters and age range,largely I feel to no avail..after all if you breed loads of pups then you know the way to surreptisiously add them to other allowable litters.It follows therefore that the same type of person will diversify into what is now known as the designer dog area. I have paid out over the years for good quality dogs of various breeds who had impressive pedigree papers and who were, on the whole,healthy,typy specimens but equally have paid out,quite heavily in fact,on pedigree dogs who turned out to be NOT what they seemed for one reason or another including HIDDEN HEREDITARY conditions that were known to a privileged few BUT NO OUTSIDERS but that's another story,what about their bloodlines?

My dogs now are that thing you seem to revile... CROSSBREDS...MONGRELS..CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO..I CALL MINE LONGDOGS OR LURCHERS!!!

They were all crossed quite deliberately for traits that were required by their breeders for work/race/coursing.

Greyhound x Saluki produced one,a beautiful looking dog,able courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x Saluki greyhound produced another,again a looker,brilliant racer,good courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x deerhound produced the last of mine,handsome,substantial,fleet of foot,able to work on all legal game.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,they were bred with much forethought and for a specific purpose,they all are able to fulfill this purpose.

PUPPY FARMERS are exactly what it says on the label..mass producers of pups irrespective of WHAT TYPE they are.They come along in pedigree and cross bred dogs alike.Why critisise one section only?

Excellent post, very well said :thumbsup: . BTW I love your dogs, especially the lurcher in the middle of your signature :wub:
 
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whippetwise said:
morganna said:
Interesting thread here,this argument has always raged,for over 35yrs I had pedigree hounds of various breeds and in that amount of time I can catagorically state that I met more than one or two breeders of PEDIGREE DOGS whose bitches were no more than puppy machines,churning pups out continually..usually to one of their own stud dogs,I am not just talking pet breeders here but well respected people, respected by  owners,exhibitors,judges and breed afficienados of their particular breed.It really is NO SURPRISE that greed will allways outweigh the conscience of some people ..the KC tried to do their bit by limiting numbers of litters and age range,largely I feel to no avail..after all if you breed loads of pups then you know the way to surreptisiously add them to other allowable litters.It follows therefore that the same type of person will diversify into what is now known as the designer dog area. I have paid out over the years for good quality dogs of various breeds who had impressive pedigree papers and who were, on the whole,healthy,typy specimens but equally have paid out,quite heavily in fact,on pedigree dogs who turned out to be NOT what they seemed for one reason or another including HIDDEN HEREDITARY conditions that were known to a privileged few BUT NO OUTSIDERS but that's another story,what about their bloodlines?

My dogs now are that thing you seem to revile... CROSSBREDS...MONGRELS..CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO..I CALL MINE LONGDOGS OR LURCHERS!!!

They were all crossed quite deliberately for traits that were required by their breeders for work/race/coursing.

Greyhound x Saluki produced one,a beautiful looking dog,able courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x Saluki greyhound produced another,again a looker,brilliant racer,good courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x deerhound produced the last of mine,handsome,substantial,fleet of foot,able to work on all legal game.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,they were bred with much forethought and for a specific purpose,they all are able to fulfill this purpose.

PUPPY FARMERS are exactly what it says on the label..mass producers of pups irrespective of WHAT TYPE they are.They come along in pedigree and cross bred dogs alike.Why critisise one section only?

Excellent post, very well said :thumbsup: . BTW I love your dogs, especially the lurcher in the middle of your signature :wub:

Thank you for the compliment that's Phoenix,unfortunately now waiting at the bridge for me but never forgotten,always in my mind ,a truly stunning dog with working ability too
 
morganna said:
whippetwise said:
morganna said:
Interesting thread here,this argument has always raged,for over 35yrs I had pedigree hounds of various breeds and in that amount of time I can catagorically state that I met more than one or two breeders of PEDIGREE DOGS whose bitches were no more than puppy machines,churning pups out continually..usually to one of their own stud dogs,I am not just talking pet breeders here but well respected people, respected by  owners,exhibitors,judges and breed afficienados of their particular breed.It really is NO SURPRISE that greed will allways outweigh the conscience of some people ..the KC tried to do their bit by limiting numbers of litters and age range,largely I feel to no avail..after all if you breed loads of pups then you know the way to surreptisiously add them to other allowable litters.It follows therefore that the same type of person will diversify into what is now known as the designer dog area. I have paid out over the years for good quality dogs of various breeds who had impressive pedigree papers and who were, on the whole,healthy,typy specimens but equally have paid out,quite heavily in fact,on pedigree dogs who turned out to be NOT what they seemed for one reason or another including HIDDEN HEREDITARY conditions that were known to a privileged few BUT NO OUTSIDERS but that's another story,what about their bloodlines?

My dogs now are that thing you seem to revile... CROSSBREDS...MONGRELS..CALL THEM WHAT YOU WANT TO..I CALL MINE LONGDOGS OR LURCHERS!!!

They were all crossed quite deliberately for traits that were required by their breeders for work/race/coursing.

Greyhound x Saluki produced one,a beautiful looking dog,able courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x Saluki greyhound produced another,again a looker,brilliant racer,good courser and pot filler.

Greyhound x deerhound produced the last of mine,handsome,substantial,fleet of foot,able to work on all legal game.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,they were bred with much forethought and for a specific purpose,they all are able to fulfill this purpose.

PUPPY FARMERS are exactly what it says on the label..mass producers of pups irrespective of WHAT TYPE they are.They come along in pedigree and cross bred dogs alike.Why critisise one section only?

Excellent post, very well said :thumbsup: . BTW I love your dogs, especially the lurcher in the middle of your signature :wub:

Thank you for the compliment that's Phoenix,unfortunately now waiting at the bridge for me but never forgotten,always in my mind ,a truly stunning dog with working ability too

What lovely dogs you have. We have 8 dogs, 5 peds and 3 X's. We love them all the same. I know you shouldn't have favorites but ours is one of the crosses. :wub: :wub: :wub:
 

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