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Discussion in 'Dog Behaviour and Training' started by Mad Murphy, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. Mad Murphy

    Mad Murphy Well-Known Member Registered

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    Yep I did.

    Now I should say this will be my first time and I am not looking forward to it. Im already beginning to doubt the wisdom of my actions and we are nowhere near the start date.

    Ive always adopted waifs and strays so they were all about a year before I got them. When Oscar came in 2001 I thought about classes so I phoned up and the lady running the classes said
    'puppy classes are for dogs up to 8 months..The second class is for older dogs'
    so I said well can I sign up for those classes?
    'No she said not unless your dog has done puppy classes..'
    'Ok..Well hes just come from a rescue so he hasnt had puppy classes..'
    'Oh well we cant accept him to the next phase then and with a dog like that I doubt theres much point..'

    At the time the kennel club was the only place running classes in our area and I felt so totally let down and brushed off by the snobbery of that woman that I never even considered them again.

    But Murphy has some issues with strangers, he doesnt like people without dogs and he barks at anyone who comes into the house. After about an hour he settles down and he has been great this week with my son, his partner, my two grandchildren, (one of whom has severe autism) and my sister in law.. But it took time and he still isnt good with random people in the street. Then I saw some classes advertised in the paper . They are run by a dog therapist who works for the local shelter she runs very small groups 4 or 5 people and dogs at a time and all the profit goes to the local dog shelter so Ive signed up for the next run of classes starting October.

    I think Murphy will do ok but Im not sure how I will cope.. I dont like dealing with groups of people, even small ones, I always withdraw and end up on my own in a corner somewhere. I know we will all be there to learn and will be focused on our dogs but I cannot get that stupid snobby woman from the kennel club out of my head..
    Tell me it will be ok...Ive got a knot in my stomach just thinking about it :(
     
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    Flobo Well-Known Member Registered Partner

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    Yep I can feel your pain at the thought! I struggle too with this kind of thing but they are small groups and you are doing this for good reasons, you have nothing to lose, and potentially a lot to gain, by at least taking a deep breath and going to the first class, you may be pleasantly surprised.. and definitely forget that crazy bat from the kennel club!!;):D
     
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    I'm the classic poster child for introversion and I hate hate hate group events. I've always found the training groups to be very friendly and if you need to make conversation you can always talk about the dogs!

    And yes - forget about that woman. There are a couple of rescue dogs in Harri's class, one is 6 and the other 9. They are never too old to learn.
     
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    Go along, learn what you can; ignore anything that isn't relevant and keep your eyes on Murphy. If he is gaining from either your learning or his participation that's all that matters?
     
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    Had a similar problem with Dudley. He was six months old and I was told he was too old for puppy classes. I then had to wait eight weeks for the course of adult classes.
    We lasted two sessions. He was very good, he would sit and walk properly on the lead, which was actually the start of him using a collar, as they said he couldn't wear a harness.
    On the second session the trainers husband told me to lift him up by his collar so his front feet were not on the ground to stop him planting. I refused to do this and he actually said 'I've never pulled a dogs head off yet'.
    He was already fairly obedient, his recall was good and we would sit and stay so I decided that lessons were not for us. I hate the term, heel. Don't know why so I use the command 'with me' and he walks beautifully by my side.
    I hope Murphy gets on alright with his lessons and you find them helplful.
    Dudley was originally my grandaughter's dog so had been taught the basics.
    Another story from dog training, my friends collie actually failed his Citizen test and the trainer refused to continue with him. He also has good recall, will sit on command and pretty much does as he is told. He is three now and I realise as a collie he is very intelligent. Both him and Dudley have managed well without these expensive lessons.
     
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  6. Caro Perry

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    That's dreadful - I picked a class based on positive reinforcement. I wouldn't have gone back either to that one.

    I don't use "heel" - Harri's command is "stay close"
     
  7. Mad Murphy

    Mad Murphy Well-Known Member Registered

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    The thing that attracted me to these lessons is that they are positive based .. encourage learning through play and all the profits go to the rescue. As Murphy is two we already have our vocabulary and Im not going to change that. I would love to brush up his basics and work on his social skills and self confidence.
     
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    Same with mine - "fetch" requires them to bring back their toy from a pile. Great fun for the dogs rooting around for the right one.
     
  9. JudyN

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    How ignorant! o_O

    Remember that the trainer and the classes are there for your benefit - or rather Murphy's benefit. Jasper went to classes and I rather wish I'd just stayed for the first half-hour of each, because after half an hour he'd started melting down and we spent the whole time trying to address behaviour that he really only did in the training class as he was so worked up. He also on one occasion went on strike after too much sit, down, stand, down, sit... and decided to have a bit of a nap instead. I really can't blame him.

    So only do what you're comfortable with. You're not back in school where you have to do what you're told, and you know your dog and what he needs.
     
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    Agree with the above, the classes are or at least should be for you as a pair. If I was told to do anything I was not happy with I wouldn't try it. As to Jasper, my experience is sight hounds get bored quickly. And repeating the same things over and over just leads to them switching off fully. That said with very sensitive training they can do well.
     
  11. JudyN

    JudyN Well-Known Member Registered

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    Sure - training is a bit like sculpture. A lump of marble and a lump of clay can both be sculpted into something beautiful, but if you try to use a chisel on soft clay or mould marble with your hands, you're not going to get great results. So you really need to know what works with what you are trying to shape.
     
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  12. Mad Murphy

    Mad Murphy Well-Known Member Registered

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    Once we start I will let everyone know how it goes.
    I just have to cope with my dislike of being around people.
    It seems to be the done thing these days to attend classes almost like sending children to school.
     

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