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Stupid People!!!!

Discussion in 'Hound' started by tiptoes, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. tiptoes

    tiptoes New Member Registered

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    Why do people have to be so stupid when it comes to their perfect dogs :angry: After just coming back from another horrific walk with my retired greyhound who is terrified of other dogs barking at her anyway, when we came past two labradors who were in a garden barking at her with owner right next to them, I ask him to get hold of them politely as my dog was frightened, she was on the lead he didn,t saying that they wouldn,t hurt her, when one of them jumped over the wall and attacked her, she slipped her collar and bolted, then he still had the nerve to say it won,t hurt her so I told him alot less politely that it already had, him and his neighbour then told me that road is a right of way for their houses and nobody else has the right to be on it. have now been in touch with police who are going down there to talk to them. Why can,t people just get hold of thier dos for two minutes when you ask them politely to allow people to get past safely. Aaaaaargh, Did manage to catch Tip eventually, who is now shaking in her bed terrified again!! :angry:
     
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    Esty New Member Registered

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    Poor thing :(

    One of my whippets has ended up with fear aggression and now cannot be let off lead because he was free running in the park and a woman with no control over her GSDs came in - one of them went straight for him, chased him, trying to bite his rear end (not playing I assure you, absolutely vicious) and I have no doubt that it would have savaged him had Grover not been quicker. He actually peed as he was running he was so terrified. Luckily he came back to me but it could have been different if he had tried to run out of the park. I now have a dog so fearful of bigger dogs that he goes crazy when he sees them, I have to walk him separately so he doesn't set the other two off, and have had to call a behaviourist in to get him back on track.

    Hope your girl recovers ok, these things can set them back so much :( Good on you for getting the police involved - his dog was out of control in a public area and he needs telling.
     
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    oakmoorehill New Member Registered

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    Glad you managed to catch Tip and she is ok.

    I have had a similar experience and funnily enough the other dogs were labradors too. In the summer a newfie puppy came bounding up to Simba and frightened him he now is frightened of dogs bigger than him. Then one day I was walkign him with his sister Amber when we met a woman walking 3 labradors all of lead. They circled us with the hackles up growling Simba was practically climbinmg into my arms to get away from them. I asked the woman to call them away as they were frightening my dogs she asked what she was supposed to do and it was my problem if my dog was scared of her dogs. She was too busy on the phone I pulled my phone out and told her in no uncertain terms that it would be her problem when I phoned the police and dog warden for having dogs dangerously out of control and threatening not only my dogs but me too. I have seen her since and she puts her dogs on their leads as soon as she sees me.
     
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    Lisa S New Member Registered

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    It's horrible isn't it and I am sorry that you and your poor dog had that experience as some people are extremely stupid. I agree, I don't know why these people don't just put their dog on a lead when asked nicely and they usually say "oh, he\she is OK and just wants to say hello" and ignoring the fact that your dog is terrified!

    We have had encounters over the years but do remember that there are many more nice people around than stupid ones, thank god.

    Last week we were walking in the woods when an elderly man and his lovely black greyhound girl we know came up to us all flustered as 2 labs off the lead had attacked his greyhound which was on the lead and the owner just shouted at the dogs and walked on without a sorry or anything which makes you conclude that he lets them do it all the time! I felt really sorry for the old man as he was rubbing his dogs coat looking for injuries and was really upset but he said that random dogs try to have a go quite often :(
     
  5. TTT

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    Reading this makes my blood boil. I bet if your dog was something like an Akita, they would soon get their dog on a lead and under control! After my small dog got attacked I swore my next dog was going to be a Rottie! I'm sick of irresponsible people like this. Definitely scope a law for 'all dogs on leads in public'......
     
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    We were accosted today by a Lab who's owner was of the 'he only wants to play' variety. The dog was friendly, but I had Benji with me who is 17, blind and nearly deaf and absolutely terrified if strange dogs start running round him and bouncing on him, he has no idea what's happening. We finished our walk to day with him really upset and shaking all over. Bless him, all he wants is a gentle little potter up and down the field in peace, it doesn't seem a lot to ask.

    I love the article by Suzanne Clothier on this:

    http://www.harmonydogpark.ca/docs/He-just-...rude%20dogs.pdf

    I wish some of these owners would read it and take on board how rude their dogs are!
     
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    JAX New Member Registered

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    It does make your bood boil dosnt it , I saw where someone said to take hairspray or such like and spray into t he attacking dogs face . Nasty as it sounds , it might make the dogs and owners think again about attacking innocent dogs . taking 5 at a time I dont think id have a spare hand , but maybe a small one in my pocket wouldnt go amiss
     
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    Annoying as it is I don't think I'd use hairspray, that would hurt the dog and might do permanent damage to eyes etc, but you can get 'puff of air' cans that are pretty effective without doing any real harm - but I'm usually in a situation where I'm holding several dogs and it's just not practical to use something like this.

    It's not the dogs' fault they are allowed to behave badly, the blame is very squarely with the owners who don't either train or control them. I'd squirt hairspray in their face quite happily but would no doubt end up in jail (w00t)
     
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    tiptoes New Member Registered

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    I have just had a phone call off the police who said they have been down to give the owner some advice about keeping his dogs under control, if he,d had any common sense he wouldn.t have needed any advice. Tips has bruising on her side where its bitten her and is very quiet today doesn,t want to go out of garden today.
     
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    That's just awful, i do hope poor Tippy makes a good recovery from this ordeal.

    Had something similar but deliberate after a case of mistaken identity.

    I was in the park with my Staffy off lead (well trained) & an Akita male i'd had for 1 week rescue/foster, on lead. We were enjoying our walk when i was aproached by an agressive man with a rottie & a GSD on leads. He was yelling that my Staff had attacked & bitten him the previous week in the park, i said No way had he and he must have mistaken my brindle staff for another (there's loads around here). He said my dog was being walked by a man and he'd run up & bitten him, since i am the only person who walks my dogs it could not have been my dog i said. The guy was still irrate so i quickly walked away but he followed me, releasing his two dogs and shouting "get her boys" I was terrified as his dogs ran at us and i called my staffy to heal.

    My Akita reared up and came down on top of the GSD who got to us first, he pinned the dog to the floor and had the GSD's skull in his mouth, i had to sit on top of my Akita and pull his nose back trying to get him to loose the GSD which i did after just a few seconds but the damage was done as he'd crushed it's skull & killed it! Luckily my staff was still next to me and the rottie had returned to his owner who was still screaming at us but it was all entirely his fault and his poor dog paid the price. I couldn't blame the Akita for defending me but it took many months of hard work to get him to be safe around other dogs, luckily i found a very experienced owner to take him on.
     
  11. wild whippies

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    Well have to say I'm impressed by the police :thumbsup:

    Bloody shame for Tips though and you as well. It's incredibly frustrating when you get total idiots letting their dogs run riot whether they're friendly or not.

    Might be worthwhile giving Tips a few drops of rescue remedy before walks.

    With regards to well trained dogs not being on leads, I'm sorry but no-one can predict for sure how their dog will behave in an unusual situation. The general concensus is if you approach other dogs or they approach you, get them on the lead. Time and time again I've seen allegedly well trained dogs act totally out of character when presented with a gang of enthusiastic whippets and their owners call and call again with the dog completely oblivious. Fact is some things are just far more interesting than you so to save yourself any embarassment get them on their leads!
     
  12. wild whippies

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    Before I was walking 45lb Ben, everyone on the moss would just let their dogs come bounding over. Now I've got a big lad with me all of sudden folk start leashing their dogs up.

    The other thing that gets me is folk presuming that your dogs will be friendly just because theirs supposodely are. Nothing tones the arms up like 4 snarling whippets presented with some dumbass muppet of a dog that decides to stand a foot infront of them and just stares!

    Got to say I love this grim weather. All the sensible dog owners (who walk their dogs regularly) are out and all is pleasant.

    Boiling hot summer days aren't too bad because we only walk ours when it's cooled down (unlike the idiots) but the worst day of the year for dog walking has got to be New Years Day. I can spot them from a mile off mind, they're usually wearing impractical stuff like white wooly bob hats and matching gloves, :wacko:

    I don't think a law for all dogs to be leashed in public is the answer because it could stop dogs free running which I think they all need.

    What the public needs to be educated on is that no matter what, if your dog is not on a lead, it is not under control and you will be liable for any repercussions, even if it is your dog that comes off worse.
     
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    Lisa S New Member Registered

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    spot on, well said!

    there is a women near here that walks her male boxer dog which is flaming massive and she never has a leash on it. it always walks about 20 yards in front of her and she seems oblivious\doesn't care that people cross the road when they see her coming as it is a big animal and it is frightening to walk past it with or without a dog! imagine if you had a child in a pushchair and that thing was walking towards you.
     
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    I am so sorry to hear what has happened to Tip how awful. I had a similar thing happen over a year ago, I was walking Penny on her lead along a residential street when two small dogs ran at her completely unprovoked the terrier didn't even stop just grabbed onto her thigh and treated her like a rag toy it was awful and she was crying, she eventually slipped her collar and ran, they continued chasing her but luckily she out ran them and hid but it is so worrying when you see your dog run off like that so I can completely sympathise with you. She had to get 10 stitches but in our case the owner was very apologetic and said the wind had blew his gate down and paid for all vet bills, it still doesn't make up for what happened. I really hope Tip recovers soon and she can feel comfortable around other dogs and that these people will change their attitude to make the area safe for walking in.
     
  15. tiptoes

    tiptoes New Member Registered

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    Thanks for your comments. Tip has a massive bruise on her chest I,m just pleased she got away as quick as she did and stopped and waited of me :sweating: My 9 year old son was with me and was devastated and still is. I must admit i,m starting to get wary now of other dogs when we are out, I was hoping to get a whippet or lurcher to keep her company but don,t know whether it would be fair on another dog as Tip is too frightened to go out of the garden now. Thanks Heather. :thumbsup:
     
  16. TTT

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    Sensible post. Although I must say New Years Day is usually never a problem for me - i'm usually recovering from the night before and if the dogs get walked at 9pm, so be it. If not, well there's always every other day of the year to walk them (w00t)
     
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    Just got back from Scout's early morning walk along a public footpath that runs through some fields near us. Guess what? We were attacked by three dogs (border collie crosses). The owner shouted "sorry" as I was trying to keep them away from Scout who was on-lead and screaming. Thankfully she had her coat on, otherwise she would have had bite wounds all down one side. Naturally it was my fault as Scout was "on a lead" and hers were running loose and out of control (they crawled through her garden fence to get into the field and to us)

    I already have Spooky who's a basket case around other dogs thanks to a series of labradors who have lived/live around here and whose owners think it's perfectly acceptable to let their dogs charge around off-lead on the roads. They even shout most helpfully "it's ok, he won't hurt you" from a distance or tell me "it's because yours is on a lead" when they finally reach us and get their dogs back. Spooky's pretty smart, but even he struggles to understand comments like this, especially when he's being charged by some over-weight lump that's three times his size. I just hope Scout will be ok when I take her out later.

    As for myself, I've had a cry and just about stopped shaking.

    I hope Tip's ok. It really is frightening when this sort of thing happens. And must have been even worse for you as you had your young son with you. I know exactly what you mean about being wary of other dogs approaching you. I am too. I try not to be, as I don't want Spooky to pick up on it, but it is easier said than done. Take it slowly with Tip, do you have a doggy friend that could walk with you to start with, to give Tip a bit of confidence? Good luck with your girl :luck:
     
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    Hi I am newish to K9 so I hope you don't mind me butting in to the conversation? I have had my two whippets for a year now, and I must say that of the dozens of dogs I have met out with them, labradors are the bane of my life. The only thing I knew about them was that they were cute puppies in the loo paper ads, and that they were incredible gun dogs and so eager to work for their handlers at shows, on the ground and in the water.

    However, some of them, mainly yellow males don't listen to their owners at all! I take my two out for a run every morning either on the sports fields, on the banks of the estuary or on the beach, and in the last couple of weeks I have had problems with three different yellow males. Usually it starts with the dog hurtling towards us like a mobile skip, ignoring that thing on the end of the lead ( me ) and shoving it's huge head, ruff and shoulder up the inside thigh of my young lady whippet who has to try to balance on her front feet while this is going on.

    In the meantime I am shouting at the top of my voice " Gerroudovit you b*****d!" which shows what kind of a lady I am :D I then release my boy who dances around in front of it and it lumbers off after him. Grrrr! The owners sometimes manage to get them back with treats, there's a surprise!

    I may have just been unlucky but it sounds as if a few others have come across this with labs, the thing is that my whippets, even if they are eating something unmentionable or rolling in something unspeakable do it with a certain elan, and the in your face approach of a big yellow lab is definitely not welcome. As soon as I see one off the lead I put my girl on the lead, and take the boy off!
     
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    I must say I find it so sad what they have done to the labradore breed, many years ago when I first left school I worked in a kennel that trained Labs for gundogs, and they were all without exception wonderful dogs.

    But the gundog people would never have stood for any bad temerament as they had to get along with every other dog when they were working or going in the back of a van or tractor or whatever.

    They would run up to you when you first arrived at work with a huge smile on their face and most often anything they could find to bring to you, I was once greeted with a pair of glasses and an egg!, no damage done to either so soft mouthed were they.

    I wonder if this is the same breed !
     
  20. tiptoes

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    hi just a quick update about tip, she is so frightened now i can not let her off the lead at all, bolted last time she was let off, and didn,t stop until she was in the middle of the road at morning school time, very frightening for me and her. However on the plus side she now has a little friend to live with, I got a little whippet bitch about a month ago, she isn,t afraid of dogs and if they bark at her she barks back at them :thumbsup: hopefully tip will get bit of her confidence back now she,s got a bodyguard again :teehee:
     

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