Thurrock Weerk-end Of Racing

[sheilawebb]

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Just to let racers know that although we have been stitched up again for our week-end event in 2006, the S.E. WRC will still be holding their week-end event at Easter as planned. Thurrock Council have be most helpful in allowing this event to take place and their is no way after all the trouble we have gone to that the event will not be held.

I will inform racers of the racing formats in the New Year, I hope racers will support us, otherwise this may be another club that will fall by the way-side.

Sheila Webb

 

[Scillonian]

Sheila, nice to know the Thurrock Club will NOT GIVE in to those who TRY and dictate who can have top 10 status. Seems they are against the South having top 10 opens and will do everything they can to allow the IRG and NNWRF to have priority for ALL events. :cheers:

 

[Paws123]

I don't think the irg or the nwrf are trying to dictate to anyone joan... the reason the nwrf have put a weekend event on over easter at swallow nest, is to allow members to give there dogs a run on the new track prior to the champs.

I am sure that is could be resolved in the proper manner with out silly little comments

 

[thesonofpork]

i think i said a long while ago bout this topic not for thurrock to book something cos last year bwra ibm was on. now this year classic c at swallownest, i always thought that the southern open wouldnt get choice but thats IMO

 

[weathergirls]

I am not going to get into a slanging match over the this but one or two things do need to be made clear

the summer classic event always used to a 2 day event at Devon, however due to circumstances outside of our control there is only one day available at Devon, I approached Old Hall W.R.C. last year about the possibility of putting this 2 day event on there at easter of 2006 and it was under review, when this year we all lost the Asfordby venue we offered the BWRA the easter Sunday of that weekend if agreeable with Old Hall to hold their I.B.M.and PUPPY CHAMPS we would have the Friday and Sat, since then we have been fortunate to obtain Swallownest as a permanent venue for the N.N.W.R.F. the only problem the venue is already booked up for our usual championship date for 2006 the only other date we could have held the champs would have been easter which we felt was too early but thanks to Chris being willing to consider as always what was best for all racers we have been able to exchange dates with her Derby, it makes sense that racers are going to want to run on the track at easter as the champs are 2 weeks after, We are not being awkward or trying to dictate niether is the I.R.G. or Whippet News we are trying to do what we believe is best for our members.

If you care to look at the dates for N.N.W.R.F. 2006 you will see we have a G/J event at Fordingbridge weekend (how much further south can you go) as well as the Puppy/Yearling champs down in Devon

 

[sheilawebb]

I understand that the Fed want to give racers a chance to run on the Championship track before the Championships, but this could have been held as a one day event knowing that the S.E.Club had booked Easter for their week-end event this year.

To find out today when the NWRF and the Whippet News has known for some weeks causes ill feeling and their is just to much ill feeling brandising about in whippet racing at present causing discontentment with the sport itself which is very sad.

 

[weathergirls]

I understand that the Fed want to give racers a chance to run  on the Championship track before the Championships, but this could have been held as a one day event knowing that the S.E.Club had booked Easter for their week-end event this year.
To find out today when the NWRF and the Whippet News has known for some weeks causes ill feeling and their is just to much ill feeling brandising about in  whippet racing  at present causing discontentment with the sport itself which is very sad.

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No ill feeling on our side Sheila as I said easter would have had to have been our champ weekend, if it hadn,t been for the goodwill of Whippet News and Aycliffe Council unfortunately we didn,t get confirmation of it until Thursday 24th so I think its a bit unfair to have a go at Chris over it.

I had hoped to speak to you before we went into the reps meeting unfortunately you were late so didn,t get chance

 

[hellbound]

:cheers: well done sheila, look forward to the weekend :thumbsup: sure you will have a good turnout top ten or not, but why should you not get top ten points for your weekend its been well known on here for some weeks that you ask for points for this weekend and i know east-midlands were told they could not have a open on easter monday because you had your weekend event, so i'm sure you will still have top ten points for your weekend the two events are far enough apart to give both top ten points, :- "

 

[cinnamon]

I think its a good idea to hold a weeekend event before champs at swallownest,so people can get used to facilites as well as track,

Thurrock is to far forsome of us northerners to travel,

i may even get to swallownest for weekend it,s close enough to go for day only 2 hours or so. :thumbsup:

 

[john m]

Sheila, nice to know the Thurrock Club will NOT GIVE in to those who TRY and dictate who can have top 10 status.  Seems they are against the South having top 10 opens and will do everything they can to allow the IRG and NNWRF to have priority for ALL events.      :cheers:

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Considering that the I.R.G was not allowed a top ten event in its first three years of running and also that the IRG have only been allowed two top ten events for the past two years, how can your statement(they can to allow the IRG and NNWRF to have priority for ALL events. ,) be a true statement. In the last 5 years we have run 50 events and only 4 of these have been top ten events.

Being granted a top ten event to run a whippet race meeting is not an importance to the IRG, we shall run an event whether a top ten points has been granted or not. We are more concerned with racers enjoying their racing.

 

[kipper fluke]

Sheila, nice to know the Thurrock Club will NOT GIVE in to those who TRY and dictate who can have top 10 status.  Seems they are against the South having top 10 opens and will do everything they can to allow the IRG and NNWRF to have priority for ALL events.      :cheers:

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Are these the same THEY? who are in on the mortgage deals advertised on telly????

Its always ----THEY-----and usually by someone who will not put thier own name to what the write ---- How very strange maybe its them that are called----- THEY?????-----

-----------------------------ITS ME _______STEVE-----

 

[Scillonian]

Steve, "They" as you have put it are the 2 bodies, i.e. NNWRF and IRG, these 2 organisations have decided to put on a Classic event when Thurrock had already put on K9 at some stage that they were holding a weekend event then. There was no communication with Thurrock Club to explain why this Classic was to be held. The reasons for which I fully understand, but these organisations could have had the courtesy to explain to Thurrock prior to the AGM yesterday.

Regarding putting a name to the posting well here it is JOAN HEMMINGS, KINGSWINFORD, WEST MIDLANDS. - R.CH. SAXON TIGER AND R.CH/N.CH SAXON GEM. Is that clear enough for you all.

 

[john m]

The IRG have not applied for a top ten event on the Easter Monday.

Why should i tell clubs that we have applied for a top ten event on that day when we have not. The IRG is not incharge of any calendar of race meetings or fixture but its own meeting, and i repeat, i have not applied for any top ten events for 2006 as yet.

The IRG in the past two years have been given two top ten events each year, these have gone to the IRG medals event and the BOB OZ event in Devon.

If the IRG have been granted a top ten for the easter monday event at Swollownest then it is not at the IRG's behest.

The IRG has never had a top ten Classic event and have never ask for one.

What ever the day or date we will be only interested in making it a good meeting for racers to attend if they wish to, or can do so.

 

[kipper fluke]

Many thanks for adding your name to what you wrote -----I think that it should be compulsory to do so--- at least then you know who they are.

steve

 

[Paws123]

I think Sheila was aware that there was going to be another venue held over the easter weekend prior to her post about the thurrock weekend joan...

Oct 30 2005

As of now and over the next few weeks the BWRA, NWRF, IRG and ENGLISH DERBY dates are just getting sorted out.

John Meads was approached by the fed about holding an irg open on the Monday, on which he kindly accepted (or so i am lead to believe), this gives races a different format and all ways an enjoyable meeting

 

[RealMadYid]

At the end of the day the Thurrock club have shifted their weekend to accomodate the Derby which is being run later this year, only to find other major events are now scheduled at the same time. Sheila worked damn hard with the council to get this event on with the powers that be, and now it appears the turnout will be affected...When people drift away from the South East club, they'll be no replacement...reckon I might see if whippets take to agility, hear they can still have weekends at Asfordby...

Paul

 

[mutley]

glad to see you back Paul hope you are recovering well :thumbsup: its a shame these weekends clash, but from what i can see a weekends racing at a bran new venue should not be scorned upon this is going to take a lot of hard work to get things ready for next year .i think Sheila must of been aware this weekend would take place some time ago , i personally hope both events are a success .

 

[RealMadYid]

Yeah not bad thanks fella...have me moments

but, gutted for Sheila in particular about the clash of events...whilst Thurrock can still hold camping events it's a shame it won't be fully utilised...

Paul

 

[mutley]

both events can still be successful but only one venue can be a classic event ,i think the fed put this on with members in mind so they can see the venue for themselves before champs and give the committee chance to iron out any problems before hand .

 

[sheilawebb]

This is the last time I will post regarding the way the S.E. club has been treated regarding Easter 2006 as I do not want to bore the pants off of racers, but I feel racers should know the true facts.

I spoke to Christine and faxed her to confirm the clubs request to go back to a Bank Holiday week-end for their week-end event in 2006 as I did not think it was fair on racers having to travel home on a Sunday evening as it was not practical. I asked if we could hold the event at either Easter or May Day Bank holiday whichever week-end she did not need for the Derby. This took place well before the Fed held their 2006 venue meeting at Highgate, as Chris has told me earlier in the year to send our fixture list in early. By then I had already put the wheels in motion with Thurrock Council (which is no easy task as caravans and dogs are not top of their agenda). I applied for Easter as I was led to believe the Whippet News would be holding the Derby on the May Day week-end. I then received a 2006 provisional fixture list stating that fixtures in bold print were definates with the Fed open being held on Saturday the 15 April at Oldhall with Thurrock being allocated the Sunday and Monday with question marks alongside which I took to mean that Chris knew we were awaiting confirmation from the Council. When the W.News arrived the Feds. date at Easter was the 16 April so I phoned and left a message asking Chris to let me know which date the Fed had booked but had no reply. I asked the Southern Region BWRA Chairman Tony Warren to asked Chris at the Fed Bend Championships what the position was, as I was upset at be ignored. He was told we had to wait until the BWRA AGM for an answer when it came to light that the Fed, IRG and Whippet News already new that venues had completely changed and that the Fed were holding events on the Saturday and Sunday and the IRG on the Monday at Swallonest.

Perhaps now you will uinderstand that we have a genuine grievance at the way we have been treated once again, and we are tired of being treated like second rate citizens. As any racers will tell you who have been to Thurrock you are made most welcome and our racers certainly appreciate a good dog (whoever owns it).

P.S. I AM SORRY GARY BUT THE fED. BEING ALLOWED TO HAVE A TWO DAY CLASSIC DOES NOT MAKE EASTER A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AS IT MEANS AS YOU WELL KNOW THAT THE BWRA OR ANY CLUB CANNOT HOLD A POINTS OPEN ON EITHER OF THOSE DAYS.