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ok just been reading about a couple of opens that wont b top ten and it got me to thinking about top tens and wot u lot think?

my question is wud u only travel to an open if it was a top ten? or do u race where & when u want to race regardless of top ten status? do u *chase* points? or r u surprised if u r in the top ten?

me i race where & when i want to race it makes no difference to me if its top ten or not. no i dont chase top ten points and id b shocked if my dog was in there lol when we raced mickey whizz we never chased points but he still got 3rd twice in the scratch top ten deffo didnt chase the points as if i did i wud have bend raced him and i never. just wondering if the top ten opens got cut back by say half ( just a for instance) wud u still travel all over? if there wasnt as many top ten opensn do u think it wud b a harder or easier competition?

just thought this might make an interesting topic
 
Top Ten Opens or Opens in general Gary ??

I think too many altogether.

In answer to Carole i suppose if your lucky enough to have a good dog and doing well in the Top Ten Points it would influence you (well it would me) a bit. Altho i like to try and support our local club opens if possible. :) and usually do as aint got nothing to chase points with yet!!! :)
 
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mutley said:
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I could never afford to travel to top ten opens, nor anyone in the south, nor I expect Scotland, unless you spend a fortune. It is OK if you live in the right area where the majority are. I think the right idea that Ant Horsnall put up a year ago and that was for just the top opens and championships to count for top ten points was the best idea. It is just another competition, like the top gun, you pay for the points by travelling.
 
Totally agree with Audry

Just out of curiosity what do we achieve of following the 3 points opens

I know Fed Top 5 winners receive jacket

Top Gun & Top 10 ? anybody

As i have stated Ive never followed any of the points with my dogs... only run them for ourselves when we want too , i am not a big believer in over running
 
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Top Gun £50.00, Jacket for winner, certificates and money for other places - i think it says on Top Gun Form ?
 
Top Ten winners free 12 month whippet news subscription again i only think as never won it :) but endeavour to keep trying :lol:
 
Cheers , do the opens have to be an advert in the whippet news to count for top 10 points, or is it that they have to be in the whippet news calender?

Suppose the price of fuel would stop alot of people following all the points opens
 
Ok another newbie question here, whats the difference between Top Gun and Top ten?

Perrys never likely to set the world alight in any of these comps but I would be grateful if someone could explain about them. You never know Finlay or Teddy might :- "

I do have to say though that we enjoy all the racing club and open and the prospect of winning points wouldnt influence where we race, the choices are down to other factors, how far away, is it a track we like, are friends going, what happens if you win is so low on the priorities it doesnt even register but then we're part of that happy band that makes winning possible, cos without us also rans there wouldnt be any winners :D

All the best

Marie
 
marielou said:
Ok another newbie question here, whats the difference between Top Gun and Top ten?Perrys never likely to set the world alight in any of these comps but I would be grateful if someone could explain about them. You never know Finlay or Teddy might :- "

I do have to say though that we enjoy all the racing club and open and the prospect of winning points wouldnt influence where we race, the choices are down to other factors, how far away, is it a track we like, are friends going, what happens if you win is so low on the priorities it doesnt even register but then we're part of that happy band that makes winning possible, cos without us also rans there wouldnt be any winners :D

All the best

Marie

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Top Gun is competition for BWRA events only

Top Ten is a competition run by Whippet News

NNWRF Top 5 competition for NNWRF events only

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I was never really interested in the Top Ten until 2002 then after all the trouble we had with the then NWRF-(infamous two)--

Fluke not able to run at any of their events and she still managed runner up spot --

I felt both her and Harry then 12years old had been cheated from their top spot --

not taking anything from the 2002 eventual winner Show Three.

So the next year i went to win it with Fluke knowing she was more than capable of doing so

I also took runner up with Coral .

But no amount of traveling alone will win you the Top Ten

you need to win at the opens you go too---they don,t give you it just for turning up.

its surprising how many have said --

"well you went to this open and that open no wonder you were able to win top ten"

I often look at the certificate's on the wall and think to myself --- --------------------------but thats another story ---

my own views on the top ten are as i said we need to step back and give it a good looking at as many seem to think it is having a detrimental affect on the racing --

i do not hold this view but would like changes of some sort to promote racing

we have and always will go to opens top ten or not if at all possible but costs are now much more than they were /and being older driving 3-4 hours each way takes its toll ---

Steve
 
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I think we did about 12 opens last year, don't know what was points and what wasn't. We would have to attend a few more events than this to bother with the top ten, hell we might even need to win once in a while :- " .

I suppose having to book Mum's holiday dates in January each year (that goes for booking single days off for day opens too as she has no set shift pattern and can be doing anything from five to ten or more shifts in a row before getting a day off). Weekends are not guaranteed. We loook at the calendar in Dec/Jan, we want to go on holiday so that's Scotland. We want to aim to travel for around 3 hours or more at least once a year (so thats Ayr/Portsmouth etc). We want to visit out friends more than 1½ hours drive away (so thats Easington/Old Hall/A&T etc). We also like to try and attend locally (Manton/Maltby/Blidworth etc.). That covers a wide area.

I think additional opens are also taboo for some people. We all know there's negativity in the sport and when someone turns round and says "well they've only gone because it's additional so they might stand a chance of winning" then I think it puts a lot of people off. Personally I've seen some good dogs beat other good dogs to win additional opens but still someone has to say it and it's not nice and can be off-putting.
 
I'd be happy to win an additional, i'm happy to win a handicap at club and if i win a trophy im over the moon :)
 
There is something slightly odd about Top Ten Points, if you aren't in the running then you're anti top ten, i know i always wondered what posessed people to "points chase" but if you find yourself up there one month, then yeh course you try to stay up there, "points fever" is hard to resist, i'd say anyone who got up there and said they weren't interested would have to go a long way to convince me they weren't lying.

At the end of the day we are all competative, we are involved in racing i don't care who you are or what dog you have, everyone strives one day to have a win, to have that "once in a lifetime" dog, you manage to get that dog and then what are you expected to do? Put it away and tell yourself you've got a flying machine? Or look after it well, keep it fit and let it do the talking against the best in the country - i'd go for the latter every time.

If top ten points were done away with tomorrow, i still think you'd have the same problem with clubs not getting many dogs, people would still travel to good opens, opens with nice trophies and formats that suit. The fact is there simply isn't as many dogs as there used to be.

Lastly with regards over running, people do this at club level too, just that their over running isn't as well publicised, so that's something else that can't be blamed on top ten :thumbsup:

I'll get off my soap box now. :cheers:
 
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There is something slightly odd about Top Ten Points, if you aren't in the running then you're anti top ten, i know i always wondered what posessed people to "points chase" but if you find yourself up there one month, then yeh course you try to stay up there, "points fever" is hard to resist, i'd say anyone who got up there and said they weren't interested would have to go a long way to convince me they weren't lying.At the end of the day we are all competative, we are involved in racing i don't care who you are or what dog you have, everyone strives one day to have a win, to have that "once in a lifetime" dog, you manage to get that dog and then what are you expected to do?  Put it away and tell yourself you've got a flying machine? Or look after it well, keep it fit and let it do the talking against the best in the country - i'd go for the latter every time.

If top ten points were done away with tomorrow, i still think you'd have the same problem with clubs not getting many dogs, people would still travel to good opens, opens with nice trophies and formats that suit.  The fact is there simply isn't as many dogs as there used to be.

Lastly with regards over running, people do this at club level too, just that their over running isn't as well publicised, so that's something else that can't be blamed on top ten 

I'll get off my soap box now

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I have to disagree, biddy & hillside lad was the best in the country for a few years and in my opinion could of been up there in the top ten , but living in Scotland and supposable the amount of miles there owners had to travel, they never got that chance

just my opinion
 
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Totally agree Vicky we got Top Gun fever :blink: people always thought we didnt know our way out of Nottinghamshire until this year :D and we do now of course with the help of my trustee chauffeur Kim and now her Sat Nav just hope we have the dog to go with us too that would be nice :)
 
I have to disagree, biddy & hillside lad was the best in the country for a few years and in my opinion could of been up there in the top ten , but living in Scotland and supposable the amount of miles there owners had to travel, they never got that chance

just my opinion






Location does play a part too :)
 
DENISE BAILEY said:
Vicky said:
There is something slightly odd about Top Ten Points, if you aren't in the running then you're anti top ten, i know i always wondered what posessed people to "points chase" but if you find yourself up there one month, then yeh course you try to stay up there, "points fever" is hard to resist, i'd say anyone who got up there and said they weren't interested would have to go a long way to convince me they weren't lying.At the end of the day we are all competative, we are involved in racing i don't care who you are or what dog you have, everyone strives one day to have a win, to have that "once in a lifetime" dog, you manage to get that dog and then what are you expected to do?  Put it away and tell yourself you've got a flying machine? Or look after it well, keep it fit and let it do the talking against the best in the country - i'd go for the latter every time.

If top ten points were done away with tomorrow, i still think you'd have the same problem with clubs not getting many dogs, people would still travel to good opens, opens with nice trophies and formats that suit.  The fact is there simply isn't as many dogs as there used to be.

Lastly with regards over running, people do this at club level too, just that their over running isn't as well publicised, so that's something else that can't be blamed on top ten 

I'll get off my soap box now

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I have to disagree, biddy & hillside lad was the best in the country for a few years and in my opinion could of been up there in the top ten , but living in Scotland and supposable the amount of miles there owners had to travel, they never got that chance

just my opinion

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Don't get what bit you disagree with though Dee? I don't doubt you are right re Biddy & Hillside Lad but that is more to do with location rather than anything else, in a perfect world we'd all have Biddy's & Hillside Lad's and live in the midlands :thumbsup:
 
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I think the TOP TEN is a good competition and a prestigious accolade to win

unlike the FED top 5 and the BWRA top gun it covers all corners of the racing organisations, regions and clubs and does play a big part in attracting entries at these opens

Are there too many TT opens maybe, maybe not if they are a far enough distance apart it doesn't really make that much difference to attendances as long as there is a sole major event on once a month where everyone can coverge and nothing clashes with it

people blame opens as being the downfall of clubs when really it is the people themselves that are not prepared to muck in, lend a hand and support their clubs that are to blame for it :oops: (wandering off topic slightly now) they want to just turn up run the dog and get home, they can do this at an open cause everything is laid out and done for them
 
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