Turned Down Because Of Sam

[Sadie]

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Just to let you know we lost Jules because Sam hasn't been castrated. He can't undergo the op because of his auto immune condition and at 9 he is most definitely sterile due to the steriods/Atopica.

We have applied for Tea a lovely 5 month JR cross bitch but I suppose we will be rejected here too.

How sad that we have such a good home waiting for a youngster (or slightly older) dog or bitch but Many Tears won't budge.

Has anyone else experienced this sort of heartache?

Hannah x

 

[cyfrin]

Many Tears are renowned for this - I wanted a lovely lurcher they had but was not allowed as I had a 10 yr old un-neutered bitch!

 

[FeeFee]

I'm so sorry you were disappointed

Please don't give up, though. There are hundreds of rescues and they all have different policies and ways of working. There are many, particularly smaller rescues, who are prepared to look at things on a case-by-case basis rather than having blanket rules. Good luck with your application for Tea :luck:

 

[JAX]

How do they know if the bitches are spayed or not . as for the boys , do they come and check ?

 

[Sadie]

Many Tears have their base is in Wales so they have local home checkers to make sure prospective homes are genuine.

I understand the need for spaying but I do think each case should be seen as individual and not blanket. Also £160 minimum donation fee so not cheap! I'm tempted to get my daughter to apply for Tea and then look after her for alooooooooong holiday! Here she is...

Hannah x

How do they know if the bitches are spayed or not . as for the boys , do they come and check ?

 

[jinnyfizz]

How do they know if the bitches are spayed or not . as for the boys , do they come and check ?

Good point, Jax!!

Do they ask for veterinary records to prove speying?

I wholly understand that rescue organisations want to do the best for their rehomed dogs but I have noticed that a huge amount are returned to Many Tears for various reasons so they obviously don't check out the potential owners as well as they could!!

Each case should be looked at individually as everyone differs in their ability and situation - it is ridiculous to tar everyone with the same brush and risk losing superb forever homes for alot of the dogs, such as Jules :angry:

 

[FeeFee]

Rescues have to take some things on trust, but unfortunately people do lie because they think they know better than we do if their home will suit a particular dog or not, which I guess is why we all get very cynical about taking peoples' word for how careful and responsible they will be in certain situations. That then backfires on the genuine people.

As for getting your daughter to apply, I can't speak for other rescues, but Oldies don't just chuck the dog out of the door into a new home and forget about them. Our dogs are 'family' for the rest of their lives just as much as any good breeders puppies are. We not only homecheck before placing a dog, but we also do post-adoption home visits (as well as regular telephone follow-up) to make sure all is OK with the dog in the new home. I guess someone *could* get away with pretending the dog lived with a relative if they were really determined, but I can't tell you how furious I would be if I found out someone had deceived us like that!

When you adopt a dog you sign an adoption contract - as with any other contract if you don't abide by the terms there can be consequences including the dog being reclaimed by the rescue. Surely much better to find a rescue that accepts your real circumstances and is happy to rehome to you?

 

[caitlin]

Surely someone with a loving home, who has a history of caring for dogs (even if their old dog is not neutered) is a lot better for a dog than a long stay in a kennels or a foster home? It should also be remembered that ANYONE can buy a puppy with NO checking at all. We probably all know of dogs, loved and cherished as puppies, but hardly taken out/seen in public when they grow up. Representatives of rescue centres are always on this site urging people not to breed pups or buy pups - 'why not home a rescue dog?' Because it is notoriously difficult, that's why!! My mum was told by a rescue centre that she would have to have her 13 year old dachshund castrated if she wanted to re-home. My mother-in-law was told that her husband MUST be present when the home-check took place, but he had to be at work, so she didn't re-home a rescue dog. I understand that rescue centres have got to vet people, but..........!

My bitch Ivy was 're-homed' - but it was a private arrangement with her ex-owner - I am sure (because I have children under 5) that I would not have been allowed to have her if a rescue centre had been involved and that would have been a great shame.

 

[Sadie]

My posting about getting my daughter involved was tongue in cheek really! Being up front and honest is the only way but in our case it has been the way that we lost Jules and probably will be turned down for Tea.

We have kept whips for 40 years and nursed our Sam since he was 18 months old. He has his own chair downstairs and a two seater sofa in our bedroom! Saying that we used to have an old sofa for the 4 whips many years ago and it was 20 years before my second husband and I took a holiday because we couldn't leave the whips with anyone and wouldn't do kennels.

Ah...happy days! Thanks for all your comments and encouragements.

Hannah x

Surely someone with a loving home, who has a history of caring for dogs (even if their old dog is not neutered) is a lot better for a dog than a long stay in a kennels or a foster home? It should also be remembered that ANYONE can buy a puppy with NO checking at all. We probably all know of dogs, loved and cherished as puppies, but hardly taken out/seen in public when they grow up. Representatives of rescue centres are always on this site urging people not to breed pups or buy pups - 'why not home a rescue dog?' Because it is notoriously difficult, that's why!! My mum was told by a rescue centre that she would have to have her 13 year old dachshund castrated if she wanted to re-home. My mother-in-law was told that her husband MUST be present when the home-check took place, but he had to be at work, so she didn't re-home a rescue dog. I understand that rescue centres have got to vet people, but..........!
My bitch Ivy was 're-homed' - but it was a private arrangement with her ex-owner - I am sure (because I have children under 5) that I would not have been allowed to have her if a rescue centre had been involved and that would have been a great shame.

 

[fallenangel]

surly if you can supply a letter from you vet saying thats castrting you dog is not in its best intersets and allso suly the bitch you wanted is spayed before she comes from many tears. I home checked for years and found thats aslong as things were talked through solutions to problems like thsi could be found.

 

[TTT]

It's a shame that this dog missed out on getting a caring home. Perhaps you could give a home to a dog from your local council pound? Our local one does not do home checks and the dogs there are often on death row if not claimed within so many days?

 

[FeeFee]

My posting about getting my daughter involved was tongue in cheek really! Being up front and honest is the only way but in our case it has been the way that we lost Jules and probably will be turned down for Tea.

Sorry, I didn't mean to go off on one in my last post, I realise you weren't being serious about adopting in your daughter's name :b

I understand your frustration over Jules, I really do, but not all rescues have the same rules and there are lots out there who would consider you. I've had rescue dogs for the last 30 years and at various times I've adopted dogs when I lived in a flat, when I worked full time, when I had an unfenced garden, when I had young children and when I had an entire dog who, like Sam, couldn't be neutered for health reasons.

I have honestly found that most smaller rescues are very prepared to make exceptions if you are able to show that you have thought things through and have a plan to deal with any problems, or that there is a good reason why a current dog isn't neutered etc. If possible, try to speak to them on the phone rather than send an e-mail, as it will give you a better chance to explain things and show that you have a good home to offer.

 

[cyfrin]

Some really good comments in this thread. The rescue centre named in this thread has so many dogs needing homes. It is tragic that they are so strict when so many great sensible peeps want to adopt.

 

[Sadie]

Thanks to all who have contributed here and sent me PM's.

Many Tears have emailed to say we are 2nd on the list for Tea and if the first applicants don't have her, we will be given first refusal. Also had a kind offer of a young, fawn whip dog so it turns out we are very lucky after all!

I'm sure Jules has a great home! 8)

Hannah x

Some really good comments in this thread. The rescue centre named in this thread has so many dogs needing homes. It is tragic that they are so strict when so many great sensible peeps want to adopt.

 

[Sadie]

A happy ending for us thanks to one of the members on K9! We are adopting the young fawn dog puppy and hope to bring him home between Xmas and New Year.

Many thanks again to all who sent support/advice etc. 8)

Hannah x

Thanks to all who have contributed here and sent me PM's.
Many Tears have emailed to say we are 2nd on the list for Tea and if the first applicants don't have her, we will be given first refusal. Also had a kind offer of a young, fawn whip dog so it turns out we are very lucky after all!

I'm sure Jules has a great home! 8)

Hannah x

Some really good comments in this thread. The rescue centre named in this thread has so many dogs needing homes. It is tragic that they are so strict when so many great sensible peeps want to adopt.

 

[jinnyfizz]

How wonderful!!!!! :thumbsup:

Congratulations on your new baby and lets have lots of pictures when he arrives

 

[cyfrin]

:thumbsup: Great news!

 

[Happy Humber]

Dont forget we all love pictures

 

[tinabow]

hannah

thats brilliant news

so pleased for you all

lots of :luck:

tina xxx

 

[~Annie~]

Many congratulations on your new pup

I was involved with rescues, fund raising and home checking, for many years, but I have been so disappointed with the attitude of a number of rescues recently that I have withdrawn my support, both in terms of time and money. It's a sad world when dogs are denied good homes because their prospective owners don't fit certain pre-ordained profiles and when good people are verbally abused because they don't agree with every dictate of the rescue mafia.