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are whippet puppies normally rough in play as he can get a bit carried away especially with my daughter and it can be quite painful even on me at times.raised voices only seem to excite him even more and even taps on the nose dont seem to worry him.a quick slap on the backside along with a sharp no usually stops him but only for a few seconds before he is off again.is this type of behaviour normal or should i be trying harder to put a stop to it before he gets any older.he is very snappy especially at hair and chins :lol: although it is definately only playful and he has taken a rather strange sexual interest in my daughter and is unable to play with her without trying to mount her constantly although he doesnt do it with anyone else :unsure:

do i have anything to worry about or am i being a bit paranoid :)) i am sure he doesnt realise just how sharp his teeth are and he isnt interested in any of the many toys that we have bought for him although he does love ripping up the missus's magazines :lol:

apart from his odd little moments he is absolutely fantastic and everybody loves him but i am just a bit concerned that i should be acting now rather than just letting him get on with it.

advice appreciated as my neighbour claims that his pup never chewed anything or anybody or tried to mount anything other than a couple of teddys.
 
That is normal puppy behaviour... (w00t)

It looks like your pup has settled in well and is feeling very playful.

I used a shaker with Dippy and a sharp firm NO and it worked a treat. I also got her to sit as soon as I had said NO and praised her for it.

After a few days of using the shaker, I only had to shake it without the NO and she sat down for her praise.

The shaker doesn't work for all dogs but its definately worth a go :thumbsup:

Dippy is coming up for 9 months and still loves ripping up paper and shredding any magazines or mail she can get her teeth into (w00t)
 
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jas328sport said:
are whippet puppies normally rough in play as he can get a bit carried away especially with my daughter and it can be quite painful even on me at times.raised voices only seem to excite him even more and even taps on the nose dont seem to worry him.a quick slap on the backside along with a sharp no usually stops him but only for a few seconds before he is off again.
Yes, in my experience completely normal. For the first week or two Guto was just the same. I've just been extremely persistent with lots of firm 'NO's' and he has stopped almost completely now. He sometimes forgets if he's excited, but will stop if told, and usually gives a little lick to say sorry. Gelert has been training him too - if he accidentally nips him when they're playing, he yelps and acts very submissively and this seems to calm the puppy down immediately. Lots of praise when he's good as Hellybobs says too :thumbsup:

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I find a rolled up newspaper very help ful , makes lots of noise,and dosnt hurt either ,

You shouldnt really hit any dog on its nose , as that is a very sensitive area . By beinfg firm with im now will pay dividends as he getsolder , Try giving him a raw carrot to chew , hes probably teething too , as regards the humping (w00t) :oops: , Ive never had one do it so cant help there sorry
 
JAX said:
as regards the humping  (w00t)   :oops: , Ive never had one do it so cant help there sorry
Mine did it a couple of times to my arm last week, same firm 'No' approach seems to have stopped him trying it since.

I try not to let mine get too overexcited with any particular activity, as he's less responsive in this state; I try to distract him with another game or toy.
 
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thanks for that,at least i know that it is now normal :) the tap on the nose was actually the vets advice :blink: obviously they dont always know best ;)
 
When the puppy bites you could try giving a "yelp" and then stopping the game and turning away and ignoring the puppy. This way he learns that biting isn't acceptable. If he bites, the fun ends.

I've no advice on the humping, thankfully I've never experianced that problem!!
 
Yes, pups just like chuildren can get overexcited. As soon as he gets too rough call the game off. Whacking rolled up newspaper against hard object or using the shaker works well attracting his attention. Also your little girl has to learn not encourage his behavior, if she screams or runs that would only make the pup more excited.

Also the pup will be teething, loosing his front teeth about 16 weeks, but the whole process takes several months and their "wisdom" teeth do not come out until much later - I beleve about 9 months? - so the dog needs things to chew on for most of his first year. :luck: :luck: :luck:
 
Other normal whippet behaviour (especially if he is teething) is the chewing of everything. One of mine didnt really chew (except my dads slippers) but my bitch chewed up til about 18 months, especially when anxious. Ive had my bannister and shelves chewed but her speciality (and this was quite amazing) was dvds. She would stand on my sofa to reach the shelf and manage to pick one out from the middle without disturbing the rest and then chew it to bits. I only had to go to the bathroom for this to happen, then i discovered cages
 
:lol: shouting and turning away to stop play doesnt work as the little bugger just bites the back of your feet :lol: will certainly give the rolled up newspaper a try tomorrow and unfortunately trying to get my daughter to stop running around screaming and laughing when he is trying to bite chunks out of her ass is proving difficult as she just finds it hilarious until he catches up and it hurts.the little sod actually drew blood on her leg earlier so that soon put a stop to play ;) i am just looking at the little bugger spark out on the sofa looking like butter wouldnt melt :) and that is the sofa that he was definately not going to be allowed on :D rules dont seem to last long with a puppy tugging on the heart strings :wub:
 
jas328sport said:
are whippet puppies normally rough in play as he can get a bit carried away especially with my daughter and it can be quite painful even on me at times.raised voices only seem to excite him even moreOff course raising your voice will excite him, you are joining in his game.  Try to keep your voice firm and calm.  Maybe try some time out

  and even taps on the nose dont seem to worry him.a quick slap on the backside along with a sharp no usually stops him but only for a few seconds before he is off again.

[SIZE=14pt]PLEASE - DO NOT HIT YOUR DOG  it is not acceptable to hit your dog  :) . Aggression will beget aggression.  I hit you, then you hit me.  I know it can be frustrating trying to train and scuplt their behaviour while they are playful little puppies, but you are setting the ground work for the future.  It is so important that you remain calm.  Stick to just removing the puppy from the situation when ever this behaviour occurs.  Time out, bang a rolled up newspaper on a hard surface, clap your hands, a water pistol,  make a loud noise anything like that, but no hitting. [/SIZE]

is this type of behaviour normal or should i be trying harder to put a stop to it before he gets any older.he is very snappy especially at hair and chins :lol: although it is definately only playful

Quite normal,  Phoebe does this as well but is getting better as she gets older and is learning her manners - again stick to your firm "No" and put him back down of the floor

and he has taken a rather strange sexual interest in my daughter and is unable to play with her without trying to mount her constantly although he doesnt do it with anyone else :unsure:

He is trying to dominate your daughter.  Your puppy is trying to sort himself out in the pecking order in your house.  Anytime you see this behaviour from him you need to remove him to a time out area for a couple of minutes and he will soon get the message.  How old is your daughter?  I am assuming she is quite young. How she interacts with the pup is very important.  Is she old enough to be involved in training solutions,  or still a baby where you need to act on her behalf?? 

do i have anything to worry about or am i being a bit paranoid :))

No you are being responsible

i am sure he doesnt realise just how sharp his teeth are and he isnt interested in any of the many toys that we have bought for him although he does love ripping up the missus's magazines :lol: He will grow out of this eventually :lol:    In the mean time you will have to remember that if you leave it lying around where he can "seek and destroy" it then you have nobody to blame but yourself

apart from his odd little moments he is absolutely fantastic and everybody loves him but i am just a bit concerned that i should be acting now rather than just letting him get on with it. 

advice appreciated as my neighbour claims that his pup never chewed anything or anybody or tried to mount anything other than a couple of teddys.

Am please to hear you are enjoying him, and think you are doing the right thing by being concerned.   As I said before the work you do now is setting the foundation for the future.  It is so important to realise what a short window of opportunity you have to do this.  The three P's to training your dog are practice, patiences and praise.

Lots of luck with your puppy - hope all goes well for you.  And remember no more hitting please  :luck:   :)

P.S. also don't forget to post photo's from time to time

 
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When mine were like that I just said a sharp no and ignored them and did this time and time again until they finally got the message that biting got no attention at all, if they got too boisterous to the point that they were going to do them self a mischeif I would put them in their crate for a time out.

For the chewing if they were chewing something they shouldn't I just "thats not yours" and replaced it with something of theirs, even now on the odd occasion they will take a liking to a slipper or shoe and I just say thats not yours and they leave it, if I wasn't in the room then thats a different story (w00t) its playtime :lol:
 
Tesa said:
jas328sport said:
are whippet puppies normally rough in play as he can get a bit carried away especially with my daughter and it can be quite painful even on me at times.raised voices only seem to excite him even moreOff course raising your voice will excite him, you are joining in his game.  Try to keep your voice firm and calm.  Maybe try some time out

  and even taps on the nose dont seem to worry him.a quick slap on the backside along with a sharp no usually stops him but only for a few seconds before he is off again.

[SIZE=14pt]PLEASE - DO NOT HIT YOUR DOG  it is not acceptable to hit your dog  :) . Aggression will beget aggression.  I hit you, then you hit me.  I know it can be frustrating trying to train and scuplt their behaviour while they are playful little puppies, but you are setting the ground work for the future.  It is so important that you remain calm.  Stick to just removing the puppy from the situation when ever this behaviour occurs.  Time out, bang a rolled up newspaper on a hard surface, clap your hands, a water pistol,  make a loud noise anything like that, but no hitting. [/SIZE]

is this type of behaviour normal or should i be trying harder to put a stop to it before he gets any older.he is very snappy especially at hair and chins :lol: although it is definately only playful

Quite normal,  Phoebe does this as well but is getting better as she gets older and is learning her manners - again stick to your firm "No" and put him back down of the floor

and he has taken a rather strange sexual interest in my daughter and is unable to play with her without trying to mount her constantly although he doesnt do it with anyone else :unsure:

He is trying to dominate your daughter.  Your puppy is trying to sort himself out in the pecking order in your house.  Anytime you see this behaviour from him you need to remove him to a time out area for a couple of minutes and he will soon get the message.  How old is your daughter?  I am assuming she is quite young. How she interacts with the pup is very important.  Is she old enough to be involved in training solutions,  or still a baby where you need to act on her behalf?? 

do i have anything to worry about or am i being a bit paranoid :))

No you are being responsible

i am sure he doesnt realise just how sharp his teeth are and he isnt interested in any of the many toys that we have bought for him although he does love ripping up the missus's magazines :lol: He will grow out of this eventually :lol:   In the mean time you will have to remember that if you leave it lying around where he can "seek and destroy" it then you have nobody to blame but yourself

apart from his odd little moments he is absolutely fantastic and everybody loves him but i am just a bit concerned that i should be acting now rather than just letting him get on with it. 

advice appreciated as my neighbour claims that his pup never chewed anything or anybody or tried to mount anything other than a couple of teddys.

Am please to hear you are enjoying him, and think you are doing the right thing by being concerned.  As I said before the work you do now is setting the foundation for the future.  It is so important to realise what a short window of opportunity you have to do this.  The three P's to training your dog are practice, patiences and praise.

Lots of luck with your puppy - hope all goes well for you.  And remember no more hitting please  :luck:   :)

P.S. also don't forget to post photo's from time to time

thank you for taking the time to do that,it is much appreciated.i am now going to adopt the non slapping approach and he is now sulking in his cage after being told off for jumping up and biting my daughter on the face and drawing blood just under her eye :blink: the water pistol idea sounds like it may be worth a try :)

he has already grown a fair bit in a week and i dont think he realises how sharp his teeth are and how powerful his jaws already are.
 
I found the water pistol didn't work that well, they thought it was fun and tried to bite the water as it was shot (w00t)

I totally agree you should never hit a dog, it doesn't make them learn anything apart from fear.

My girls learnt through my persiverance (?spelling?) and sometimes I wanted to give and let them do as they pleased but I didn't and eventually they learnt right from wrong.

Dippy still has her moments and she knows whats she's doing is wrong but somehow she just can't help herself...I always get a "I'm sorry kiss" from her :wub:
 
Personally I'd be very carefully with things like shaker bottles and slapping newspapers. If it's a means of getting his attention for a moment then fine, but if he is frightened by the noise it could cause problems.

For instance if he is playing with your daughter and something scary happens he might connect that with the child rather than with his behaviour, and start to be defensive or even aggressive around her.

I'd know it's hard, but I'd try to keep things calm, with a firm 'no' if he gets rough, lots of rewards if he 'listens' and a couple of minutes of being ignored or time out if he doesn't. He'll eventually get the message that too rough = game over.
 
FeeFee said:
Personally I'd be very carefully with things like shaker bottles and slapping newspapers.  If it's a means of getting his attention for a moment then fine, but if he is frightened by the noise it could cause problems. 
For instance if he is playing with your daughter and something scary happens he might connect that with the child rather than with his behaviour, and start to be defensive or even aggressive around her.

I'd know it's hard, but I'd try to keep things calm, with a firm 'no' if he gets rough, lots of rewards if he 'listens' and a couple of minutes of being ignored or time out if he doesn't.  He'll eventually get the message that too rough = game over.

I suppose its how aggressive you use the shaker or newspaper, to whether you frighten a dog.

I never went over the top with the shaker, I alway used to shake it once for each episode of naughty behaviour, followed by a sharpe NO.

I also think it depends on what you use for your shaker too. I used an empty plastic vitamin container with a few nails/screws in it, so it made enough noise without being ovely loud...

I've never used a newspaper, so I can't comment.

I think its each to their own, if you find a method that works without frightening the dog, then use it and pass on what you know to others in need of help and its down to them to work out what is best for them and their dog :thumbsup:
 
jas328sport said:
thank you for taking the time to do that,it is much appreciated.i am now going to adopt the non slapping approach and he is now sulking in his cage after being told off for jumping up and biting my daughter on the face and drawing blood just under her eye :blink: the water pistol idea sounds like it may be worth a try :) he has already grown a fair bit in a week and i dont think he realises how sharp his teeth are and how powerful his jaws already are.


You're welcome. Suki is such a lovely boy, I am sure he will soon grow into a well behaved and handsome lad :cheers:
 
hellybobs said:
FeeFee said:
Personally I'd be very carefully with things like shaker bottles and slapping newspapers.  If it's a means of getting his attention for a moment then fine, but if he is frightened by the noise it could cause problems. 
For instance if he is playing with your daughter and something scary happens he might connect that with the child rather than with his behaviour, and start to be defensive or even aggressive around her.

I'd know it's hard, but I'd try to keep things calm, with a firm 'no' if he gets rough, lots of rewards if he 'listens' and a couple of minutes of being ignored or time out if he doesn't.  He'll eventually get the message that too rough = game over.

I suppose its how aggressive you use the shaker or newspaper, to whether you frighten a dog.

I never went over the top with the shaker, I alway used to shake it once for each episode of naughty behaviour, followed by a sharpe NO.

I also think it depends on what you use for your shaker too. I used an empty plastic vitamin container with a few nails/screws in it, so it made enough noise without being ovely loud...

I've never used a newspaper, so I can't comment.

I think its each to their own, if you find a method that works without frightening the dog, then use it and pass on what you know to others in need of help and its down to them to work out what is best for them and their dog :thumbsup:


Sorry, I didn't mean that those methods shouldn't ever be used, just that they should be used with care. If they are just distracting the pup and getting his attention for a minute that's one thing. If they make him jump, or cringe or seem upset then they can do more harm than good in the long term.

Also the timing has to absolutely spot on. No good making the noise 30 seconds after he's nipped, or he will have no idea what behaviour you are trying to interrupt and will connect it with whatever he was doing at that moment - which might be playing 'nicely'.
 
FeeFee said:
hellybobs said:
FeeFee said:
Personally I'd be very carefully with things like shaker bottles and slapping newspapers.  If it's a means of getting his attention for a moment then fine, but if he is frightened by the noise it could cause problems. 
For instance if he is playing with your daughter and something scary happens he might connect that with the child rather than with his behaviour, and start to be defensive or even aggressive around her.

I'd know it's hard, but I'd try to keep things calm, with a firm 'no' if he gets rough, lots of rewards if he 'listens' and a couple of minutes of being ignored or time out if he doesn't.  He'll eventually get the message that too rough = game over.

I suppose its how aggressive you use the shaker or newspaper, to whether you frighten a dog.

I never went over the top with the shaker, I alway used to shake it once for each episode of naughty behaviour, followed by a sharpe NO.

I also think it depends on what you use for your shaker too. I used an empty plastic vitamin container with a few nails/screws in it, so it made enough noise without being ovely loud...

I've never used a newspaper, so I can't comment.

I think its each to their own, if you find a method that works without frightening the dog, then use it and pass on what you know to others in need of help and its down to them to work out what is best for them and their dog :thumbsup:


Sorry, I didn't mean that those methods shouldn't ever be used, just that they should be used with care. If they are just distracting the pup and getting his attention for a minute that's one thing. If they make him jump, or cringe or seem upset then they can do more harm than good in the long term.

Also the timing has to absolutely spot on. No good making the noise 30 seconds after he's nipped, or he will have no idea what behaviour you are trying to interrupt and will connect it with whatever he was doing at that moment - which might be playing 'nicely'.

Don't be sorry your right to point out, what could go wrong when using stuff to discipline a dog, thats why its great to have different opinions.

Your right, a dog should never be "punished" after the incident and if you didn't actually see it do wrong. The poor animal won't understand why.
 
just wondering why people are actually worried about the dog growing up being scared of a particular thing.i remember when i was younger my parents had a destructive springer spaniel who used to get a good telling off with a rolled up newspaper.as he grew up he was terrified as soon as a newpaper was rolled up and then used to behave without actually needing to be even told.is it actually such a bad thing for the dog to be scared of the thing that you use to discipline it.
 

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