Wcra Secretarys Letter

[Mark Roberts]

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ok folks this morning I recieved the WCRA's reply to that much debated question about rule 6, below is the reply.

First of all let me correct rumours, Please note that we are NOT enforcing the "Mandatory Club Rule 6" The condition of entry to an open is a valide WCRA passport to be shown on the dy of the race meeting "as this rule is currently unworkable.

I think that clears things up.

 

[bertha]

Thank you Mark.

 

[Mark Roberts]

Thank you Mark.

your most welcome Bertha.

Thought some first hand facts were needed.

 

[BeeJay]

So they aren't going to get rid of the rule in the future they just aren't enforcing the rule at the moment?

What about affliated clubs having to accept the entries of ALL dogs with valid WCRA passports? Does it say anything about that Mark?

Thanks for posting the sentence that you have btw.

 

[Mark Roberts]

Barbera everyone was asking about rule 6, the question has been answerd by the WCRA that they are NOT going to enforce it as it is unworkable, I think that would suggest they are going to look into either dropping the rule 6 or re wording it for future years but for the moment THEY WILL NOT BE ENFORCING IT.

which means club running to club rules can choose who runs.

I can't answer what course the WCRA intend to take in future years but ive only stated what ive been sent in an official letter about rule 6 which is what everyone was concered about before affiliating so clubs can now if they wish affiliat this year without fear of rule 6 being enforced.

it does say on the bottom of the letter if anyone has any other questions to contact Kim.

 

[BeeJay]

Barbera everyone was asking about rule 6, the question has been answerd by the WCRA that they are NOT going to enforce it as it is unworkable, I think that would suggest they are going to look into either dropping the rule 6 or re wording it for future years but for the moment THEY WILL NOT BE ENFORCING IT.which means club running to club rules can choose who runs.

I can't answer what course the WCRA intend to take in future years but ive only stated what ive been sent in an official letter about rule 6 which is what everyone was concered about before affiliating so clubs can now if they wish affiliat this year without fear of rule 6 being enforced.

I take your point Mark and it's very heartening to hear it said.

Is there anything in the letter about the affliated clubs having to accept the entry of ALL dogs with valid WCRA passports? That is what was told a club secretary by a WCRA official last weekend. Does it say anything about that in the letter?

 

[Mark Roberts]

No Barbera it doesnt say anything in the letter about that, but rule 6 does actualy cover that senario.

but i've talked quite recently with 2 WCRA officials who both told me that clubs would be allowed to choose who runs at their opens if they choose only to run for whippet news points rather than superstars..

anyway not wanting to go round in circles again the facts of the letter (not hear say) are above.

 

[BeeJay]

No Barbera it doesnt say anything in the letter about that, but rule 6 does actualy cover that senario.
but i've talked quite recently with 2 WCRA officials who both told me that clubs would be allowed to choose who runs at their opens if they choose only to run for whippet news points rather than superstars..

anyway not wanting to go round in circles again the facts of the letter (not hear say) are above.

Rule 6 doesn't cover that scenario Mark. What it means is that clubs don't have to ask just for valid WCRA passports for any open that they run ie they can ask for no passports at all or NPWRA passports as well as WCRA ones or just NPWRA passports. Also of course that a WCRA passport without a sticker would also be acceptable. So racers don't have to buy stickers now.

The club sec that spoke to Kim Saxby on Saturday had asked for yes or no answers to 3 different questions.

1. If we affliate can we run under club rules. - Answer yes.

2. If we affliate do we have to run for superstars - Answer No.

3. If we affliate can we refuse entry to a dog that has been issued with a valid WCRA passport - No.

 

[Judy]

That's good news then. Not enforcing Rule 6 means that affiliated clubs can run under club rules like they did last year and as long as they aren't running for Superstars, we don't have to buy stickers nor indeed have a WCRA passport at all if they aren't asked for.

The answers to the questions that Barbara has written about means that no affiliated club can refuse entry to your dogs Mark if you do buy stickers (to answer one of your earlier questions) nor can they refuse entry to any others even if passports isn't a condition of entry.

 

[Mark Roberts]

That's good news then. Not enforcing Rule 6 means that affiliated clubs can run under club rules like they did last year and as long as they aren't running for Superstars, we don't have to buy stickers nor indeed have a WCRA passport at all.
It also means the no affiliated club can refuse entry to your dogs Mark (to answer one of your earlier question) nor can they refuse entry to any others.

NOW NOW Judy dont rake up the past LOL

 

[Mark Roberts]

I rang Kim Saxby last night nd asked the question below.

THE QUESTION

If an affiliated club ran an open not counting for superstar points and so being able to exclude any dogs they didnt wish to run at the open would the WCRA have a problem with that or force a club to let ALL passported dogs run at the open.

THE ANSWER

Obviously The WCRA would prefere clubs to run for superster points but if an affiliated club wished to run only for W/N~NPWRA points and run to thier own club rules (which most clubs have stated on open forms for many years) then the WCRA wouldnt have a problem with that although they thought clubs excluding any dogs out of politness should send the owner a letter explaining why.

I think the above along with the non use of mandatory rule 6 clears the matter up.

 

[BeeJay]

Thank you Mark for clearing that up for us all and putting it on here.

 

[Joanna]

the WCRA wouldnt have a problem with that although they thought clubs excluding any dogs out of politness should send the owner a letter explaining why.

I would suggest that this is very unwise and opens up the possibility of legal action as has been threatened on many occasions.

I think the owners may have grasped the reasons by now :-

 

[Darcia]

Thanks for giving us that information Mark, so the key is to wait for the opens to get advertised and be guided by their wording?

In the meantime I need to get my new passports sorted so I can actually enter any! LoL

Lets hope, as with last year, that there is good friendly racing throughout the summer where ever we choose to go

 

[June Jonigk]

If this is true Mark, it would be good for the clubs. Why doesn't the WCRA clarify this in writing to clubs? Perhaps they could make a statement on the WC website in their information section.

I think clubs would be more confident of this being the truth then. As we all know, what the WCRA secretary says, and what the committee actually do, is quite often two different things :-

I wonder if mandatory rule 6 will be removed at the WC AGM - then maybe we would believe it. My club hasn't affiliated, but my worry for other clubs is that the WCRA will change their minds once the affiliation is paid. If they weren't going to enforce rule 6, then why did we have the letter round threatening racers with disciplinary action if we asked clubs whether certain dogs would be allowed entry? Unfortunately, none of this adds up - that being said, those of us from non affiliated clubs have nothing to fear from the WCRA anymore )