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AFTER GOIN OUT LAST NIGHT WITH MY PUP AT 6MONTH ISH AND NO LUCK (WELL HE COUGHT A BUNNY BUT HE COULDENT HOLD IT :( FOR THE FOURTH TIME..)

ITS OFF OUT AGIAN TONIGHT BUT HOPEFULLY IT SHOULD BE A BETTER TURNOUT AS MY M8 IS WITH ME THIS TIME WITH HIS DOG....I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON HOW WE GET ON I WOULD TAKE PICS BUT MY PHONE DONT LIKE MY COMPUTER AND WONT SET UP ON IT LOL

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Anyone who takes a 6 month old pup out on the lamp is totaly mad .Im sorry ,but this is my oppinion ,and after 30 odd years in the game i think i know what im talking about.Not only is the pup still growing and his wee joints still knitting together,but he is entitled to a puppyhood just as a child is entitled to a childhood.After this comes work,and as much as he or she can safely cope with, as the first 6 months is a learning game.6 months is a time for play and a fair bit of training espescialy retrieving+ sit n stay Inoticed you said the pup would'nt hold its rabbit.Well i recon a bit of time retrieving training should sort this out .The pup will have plenty of time for work when it is old enough to leave school,so to speak.So let it have its puppyhood PLEASE....
 
billyboy45 said:
Anyone who takes a 6 month old pup out on the lamp is totaly mad .Im sorry ,but this is my oppinion ,and after 30 odd years in the game i think i know what im talking about.Not only is the pup still growing and his wee joints still knitting together,but he is entitled to a puppyhood just as a child is entitled to a childhood.After this comes work,and as much as he or she can safely cope with, as the first 6 months is a learning game.6 months is a time for play and a fair bit of training espescialy retrieving+ sit n stay Inoticed you said the pup would'nt hold its rabbit.Well i recon a bit of time retrieving training should sort this out .The pup will have plenty of time for work when it is old enough to leave school,so to speak.So let it have its puppyhood PLEASE....
Totally agree with you 100%. :thumbsup:
 
why would u take a pup out and run rabbits at that age ok take it out to watch maybe
 
billyboy45 said:
Anyone who takes a 6 month old pup out on the lamp is totaly mad .Im sorry ,but this is my oppinion ,and after 30 odd years in the game i think i know what im talking about.Not only is the pup still growing and his wee joints still knitting together,but he is entitled to a puppyhood just as a child is entitled to a childhood.After this comes work,and as much as he or she can safely cope with, as the first 6 months is a learning game.6 months is a time for play and a fair bit of training espescialy retrieving+ sit n stay Inoticed you said the pup would'nt hold its rabbit.Well i recon a bit of time retrieving training should sort this out .The pup will have plenty of time for work when it is old enough to leave school,so to speak.So let it have its puppyhood PLEASE....
whats 30 years got to do with it ? NOTHING

as for calling me mad. why?? you dont know a thing about me and the time and effort i put into my pup...as for retrieving he does that perfectly well with all objects i want him to retrieve he sits and gives paws and listens theres nothin wrong with him in that way..he just let go of a few bunnies this is becouse the feeling of the rabbit in his mouth shorly you know this ???? its summet he has to get used too and dont say get a teddy cos thats nonsense the real thing works.

o and could i just point of i dont slip my pup and rabbits over a million miles away and the whole point of me taking him out is to get him on sqatters and the over all feel of a night out.. if the rabbits allready moving my dog dont get slipped..also he has up to 4 slips and no more cos i dont wanna over run him so plz dont call me mad cos you aint got a clue....

has for his puppyhood he has one but i dont want him too soft has he his breed to do a job and i wont take that away from him..so if he would rather go out and chase so be it as long as he loves what he does. i'll love watching him do it..

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i will just add if your puppy was running on a mad un would you stop him cos his joints ???? crazyness..

rick
 
unwanted said:
why would u take a pup out and run rabbits at that age ok take it out to watch maybe

i dont hammer my dog i go out with others on a night so theres 2 fully grown dogs for him to watch.i will let him have a go on squatters tho...i dont see no problem with this as i dont over run him..
 
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this obviously begs the question of what is the correct age to start a whippet working ;)
 
I treat all my dogs individually as they can vary so much in mental maturity as well as physical ability, my deerhound cross was started at 15 months where as the beddie crosses were more "together" at about 8months.

What's the breeding of you're pup?
 
i havent yet got the jist of what people mean when they say what is the breeding of your dog :unsure:

i have only just got him but have bought him in the hope that he will enjoy some light working when he is at the correct age and both his parents are working dogs or at least that is what i was told.

you will need to explain what it is exactly that you mean by what is his breeding and if i can supply the info then i will as your advice is appreciated.

i have spent many an evening in my youth working with a friends lurcher but as yet have no experiance with working whippets and until recently didnt even realise that they were worked :- " it was after doing some research that i realised that whippets made both great house pets and working dogs and it was this that prompted me to get one over both a greyhound or lurcher that i was originally looking for as i was always worried about greyhounds with my wifes cats whereas whippets appear to be a lot more tolerant and so far the cats are putting him in his place nicely :lol:
 
i find all this working a dog at 8month and no sooner nonsence tbh...

my m8s whippit x grayhound cought his first rabbit at the age of 5 and a half month old the dogs limb joints are fine the dog is extreamly good dog on the lamp and puts alot of dogs to shame at the shows he goes too

years down the line i remember people taking there pups out as soon as thay could.. it was the done thing back in the days and no one had any problems with there dogs....so i ask whats the problem now ?

i think people read to many books :p
 
boom said:
i find all this working a dog at 8month and no sooner nonsence tbh...
my m8s whippit x grayhound cought his first rabbit at the age of 5 and a half month old the dogs limb joints are fine the dog is extreamly good dog on the lamp and puts alot of dogs to shame at the shows he goes too

years down the line i remember people taking there pups out as soon as thay could.. it was the done thing back in the days and no one had any problems with there dogs....so i ask whats the problem now ?

i think people read to many books  :p

No right minded person takes a dog out chasing rabbits at 6months old mate. All you are doing is reducing the dogs working life IMO. Too much too soon damages the joints and lungs. You may think your pup is handling the work ok, but he won't be. Someone i know does the same as you with his dogs and he's rehoming them at 3 because there knackered full of arthritus.

A DOG IS FOR LIFE WITH ME SO I LOOK AFTER THEM AND START THEM AT THE RIGHT AGE.

If you think a bit about your dog folks don't start them chasing until 8-9 months old, then only give them short runs. You will get so much more out of your dog :thumbsup:
 
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mally said:
boom said:
i find all this working a dog at 8month and no sooner nonsence tbh...
my m8s whippit x grayhound cought his first rabbit at the age of 5 and a half month old the dogs limb joints are fine the dog is extreamly good dog on the lamp and puts alot of dogs to shame at the shows he goes too

years down the line i remember people taking there pups out as soon as thay could.. it was the done thing back in the days and no one had any problems with there dogs....so i ask whats the problem now ?

i think people read to many books  :p

No right minded person takes a dog out chasing rabbits at 6months old mate. All you are doing is reducing the dogs working life IMO. Too much too soon damages the joints and lungs. You may think your pup is handling the work ok, but he won't be. Someone i know does the same as you with his dogs and he's rehoming them at 3 because there knackered full of arthritus.

A DOG IS FOR LIFE WITH ME SO I LOOK AFTER THEM AND START THEM AT THE RIGHT AGE.

If you think a bit about your dog folks don't start them chasing until 8-9 months old, then only give them short runs. You will get so much more out of your dog :thumbsup:

lol im in the right state of mind.. like a did state b4 i dont see it has i night out in that respect its learning my pup...i dont go out to bag as many rabbits as i can...im out with him to learn him..

i think your getting the wrong idea here theres a difference form goin out to bag up and goin out learning a dog to me the sooner you learn a dog the better it will be....and for the first few months it was out on the back garden with the lamp to a rabbit that has been placed there.. im not fool when it comes to learning a pup and goin out.

YOU SED (A DOGS FOR LIFE)

tell that to some1 who dont care.. cos my pup is my life and my new best friend and he will be appart of me for as long as i live or him for that matter. :wub:

one thing i do see with puppies is people goin out on large fields throwwing balls for the pup to chase and you can see the pup is having so much fun..so basicly what your saying is not to go out with a ball with your pup as he will be running around i'll keep that in mind ;)
 
billyboy45 said:
Anyone who takes a 6 month old pup out on the lamp is totaly mad .Im sorry ,but this is my oppinion ,and after 30 odd years in the game i think i know what im talking about.Not only is the pup still growing and his wee joints still knitting together,but he is entitled to a puppyhood just as a child is entitled to a childhood.After this comes work,and as much as he or she can safely cope with, as the first 6 months is a learning game.6 months is a time for play and a fair bit of training espescialy retrieving+ sit n stay Inoticed you said the pup would'nt hold its rabbit.Well i recon a bit of time retrieving training should sort this out .The pup will have plenty of time for work when it is old enough to leave school,so to speak.So let it have its puppyhood PLEASE....
i agree 110% why push ur pup at that age and risk an injury which mite affect the rest of his sportin life. my dog is 11mths now and 2 start with i would ave tok him out 2 watch and that wz when he wz 8 an half mths. it did him no harm waitinand hes only been out last wk 4 the 1st on the lamp.

just my oppinion.
 
longstone lad said:
billyboy45 said:
Anyone who takes a 6 month old pup out on the lamp is totaly mad .Im sorry ,but this is my oppinion ,and after 30 odd years in the game i think i know what im talking about.Not only is the pup still growing and his wee joints still knitting together,but he is entitled to a puppyhood just as a child is entitled to a childhood.After this comes work,and as much as he or she can safely cope with, as the first 6 months is a learning game.6 months is a time for play and a fair bit of training espescialy retrieving+ sit n stay Inoticed you said the pup would'nt hold its rabbit.Well i recon a bit of time retrieving training should sort this out .The pup will have plenty of time for work when it is old enough to leave school,so to speak.So let it have its puppyhood PLEASE....
i agree 110% why push ur pup at that age and risk an injury which mite affect the rest of his sportin life. my dog is 11mths now and 2 start with i would ave tok him out 2 watch and that wz when he wz 8 an half mths. it did him no harm waitinand hes only been out last wk 4 the 1st on the lamp.

just my oppinion.

you risk your dog of injury every time he gives run (pup or adult)
 
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boom said:
longstone lad said:
billyboy45 said:
Anyone who takes a 6 month old pup out on the lamp is totaly mad .Im sorry ,but this is my oppinion ,and after 30 odd years in the game i think i know what im talking about.Not only is the pup still growing and his wee joints still knitting together,but he is entitled to a puppyhood just as a child is entitled to a childhood.After this comes work,and as much as he or she can safely cope with, as the first 6 months is a learning game.6 months is a time for play and a fair bit of training espescialy retrieving+ sit n stay Inoticed you said the pup would'nt hold its rabbit.Well i recon a bit of time retrieving training should sort this out .The pup will have plenty of time for work when it is old enough to leave school,so to speak.So let it have its puppyhood PLEASE....
i agree 110% why push ur pup at that age and risk an injury which mite affect the rest of his sportin life. my dog is 11mths now and 2 start with i would ave tok him out 2 watch and that wz when he wz 8 an half mths. it did him no harm waitinand hes only been out last wk 4 the 1st on the lamp.

just my oppinion.

you risk your dog of injury every time he gives run (pup or adult)

i didnt mean that kinda injury wz meaning the pups joints, as billyboy wz saying the joints r jus knitting together.

but hey if works 4 u. everybodys has different ways that suit them and there dog

all the best :thumbsup:

longstone lad
 
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longstone lad said:
boom said:
longstone lad said:
billyboy45 said:
Anyone who takes a 6 month old pup out on the lamp is totaly mad .Im sorry ,but this is my oppinion ,and after 30 odd years in the game i think i know what im talking about.Not only is the pup still growing and his wee joints still knitting together,but he is entitled to a puppyhood just as a child is entitled to a childhood.After this comes work,and as much as he or she can safely cope with, as the first 6 months is a learning game.6 months is a time for play and a fair bit of training espescialy retrieving+ sit n stay Inoticed you said the pup would'nt hold its rabbit.Well i recon a bit of time retrieving training should sort this out .The pup will have plenty of time for work when it is old enough to leave school,so to speak.So let it have its puppyhood PLEASE....
i agree 110% why push ur pup at that age and risk an injury which mite affect the rest of his sportin life. my dog is 11mths now and 2 start with i would ave tok him out 2 watch and that wz when he wz 8 an half mths. it did him no harm waitinand hes only been out last wk 4 the 1st on the lamp.

just my oppinion.

you risk your dog of injury every time he gives run (pup or adult)

i didnt mean that kinda injury wz meaning the pups joints, as billyboy wz saying the joints r jus knitting together.

but hey if works 4 u. everybodys has different ways that suit them and there dog

all the best :thumbsup:

longstone lad

yep different ways..

like i said b4 i got out with other dogs..my dog watching and learning by that..the odd times i saw a squatter and took the dog rite up to it and let it run (short runs & safe ground)...i see no harm in this at all.. he's learning and he had a lil chase (fair does running a pup way to soon and hammering him will prob results in bad joints ect ect) but then agen i have known people to do this back in the day/s and there dogs seemed fine.. i dont do that mind and im capable of bringing a pup up and keeping him in good health...

this reli does get me thinking yano cos u can go to the local pet store and buy throwing balls & toys for pups..mmmmmmmm surely this is damaging his or hers joints ?..ok mayb not but its the same thing ???? you decide i dont go round throwing balls for my pup to run for so a few runs here and there on a lil bunny wont harm anythin..

so for all you lot who called me mad..

1. i suggest you look at what i put cos i aint no twat who just goes for what he can and now care about my dogs health..

2. for all the people who read books and then give info and points of view get a life cos ur living sum1 elses.

3. this topic is old..my dog is obv older he's doin fine and he seems perfectly healthy & happy so dont worry.
 
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hi boom, you know your dog more than anyone and if he was ready for the odd sitting bunny at your discretion then no harm will come of your pup. :thumbsup:
 
sparky said:
hi boom, you know your dog more than anyone and if he was ready for the odd sitting bunny at your discretion then no harm will come of your pup.  :thumbsup:
exactly how i feel about it... each to there own tho :thumbsup:
 
any dog has 2 go through a puppy stage so y not let them enjoy there puppyness :)) some may be more mature than others but thats 4 there owners 2 decide :thumbsup:
 

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