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I thought Whippets were good for pest control, I think not :- " Remember the mouse in our kitchen that chewed a hole in the lino whilst Alfie slept?! :rant: that was just the start! In our garden we now have several families of mice, about a dozen squirrels, a visiting fox, and to top it off we now have RATS! The badger seems to have disappeared :blink: The Rats really are the worst though, they sit on the lawn in the middle of the day just to mock poor Alfie I'm sure :lol: The only thing he has ever caught was a baby mouse, and he didn't kill it he tortured it like a cat would :( The boy needs lessons! :clown:
 
my tilly doesn't have any problems with squirrels

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send him to me for a couple of weeks i'm sure he'll get the education he needs. :- "
 
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he really does need some education mally, he's like a wet weekend! :- " It's the Rats I'd really like him to sort out, but I don't think there's much hope of that :(
 
Eli's the same, tho he did catch a mouse once....he got so over excited that I think the poor thing actually drowned in dribble :blink:
 
:wub: Alfie get a grip of yourself your letting the side down :lol:
 
ponygirl said:
Eli's the same, tho he did catch a mouse once....he got so over excited that I think the poor thing actually drowned in dribble :blink:



:lol: :lol: :lol: that cracked me up :lol: poor Alfie he's just being kind to animals :huggles:
 
I could lend you one of mine if you'd like............. they really couldn't bear NOT to chase a rat
 
A rat wouldn't stand a chance in the middle of our lawn, Gelert's caught them in the open. Sadly mine are have their own bombproof concrete bunker under the chicken run :angry: On the fourth bucket of bait since xmas, it disappears without fail every night; I can't be poisoning them but merely fattening them up. (I did find a mummified one when cleaning out an empty ark a couple of days ago though :x :x :x )

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one of the indestructables

Actually the best rat killer I've had was my maran hen who turned into a cockerel, then back again, one peck to the back of the head was all it took. The other birds don't seem to mind them though.
 
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The rats have dug several bolt holes all along the fence, all of which they reach before Alfie does :- " They have obviously classed him as very low threat because they are out all times of the day foraging across the lawn, he's always tucked up by the radiator! :rant:
 
moriarte said:
A rat wouldn't stand a chance in the middle of our lawn, Gelert's caught them in the open. Sadly mine are have their own bombproof concrete bunker under the chicken run  :angry:   On the fourth bucket of bait since xmas, it disappears without fail every night; I can't be poisoning them but merely fattening them up. (I did find a mummified one when cleaning out an empty ark a couple of days ago though  :x   :x   :x )
one of the indestructables

:lol: my Grandad puts poison down to kill the mice in his shed, they just eat it by the ton! He hasn't found a dead one yet?! :wacko:
 
LasVegasNo1 said:
:lol: my Grandad puts poison down to kill the mice in his shed, they just eat it by the ton! He hasn't found a dead one yet?! :wacko:
They can learn to eat clay soil which binds to the poison and stops it working. They also store food in caches, so just because it disappears doesn't mean they've eaten it, merely that they're putting it away for a rainy day. Also, if a few have died from the bait, the rest will stop eating the bait while they tuck into the dearly departed, so it can take some time if you've got a big colony :x . (my book, '100 horrible things you didn't know about rats' will be in good bookshops shortly :lol: )
 
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moriarte said:
They can learn to eat clay soil which binds to the poison and stops it working. They also store food in caches, so just because it disappears doesn't mean they've eaten it, merely that they're putting it away for a rainy day. Also, if a few have died from the bait, the rest will stop eating the bait while they tuck into the dearly departed, so it can take some time if you've got a big colony :x . (my book, '100 horrible things you didn't know about rats' will be in good bookshops shortly  :lol: )
You are the expert, you and Gelert should visit me for a pest control day :lol:
 
moriarte said:
LasVegasNo1 said:
:lol: my Grandad puts poison down to kill the mice in his shed, they just eat it by the ton! He hasn't found a dead one yet?! :wacko:
They can learn to eat clay soil which binds to the poison and stops it working. They also store food in caches, so just because it disappears doesn't mean they've eaten it, merely that they're putting it away for a rainy day. Also, if a few have died from the bait, the rest will stop eating the bait while they tuck into the dearly departed, so it can take some time if you've got a big colony :x . (my book, '100 horrible things you didn't know about rats' will be in good bookshops shortly :lol: )

the main problem with the public poisoning rats is they only put small quantities down, the rats then eat the poison but not enough to kill them. By the time you notice the poisons been eaten the rats have recovered from the first dose and need a larger dose to kill them therefore becoming resistant to that type of poison.

I know poison is expensive but you must put down enough and check it daily. If the poison has all gone put more down. I use wooden tunnels with a brick on as the plastic ones tend to get stolen where i bait round. People also tend to only have one bait point have several that way if one bait point is eaten there is still more poison for them.

Make sure that you have made every effort to withdraw there normal food supply i.e chicken food (only feed in hoppers don't throw the feed on the ground) also stop feeding maize to chickens during a poison treatment as maize contains a natural antidote to most over the counter poisons.

i've found the full grain poisons are best for rats and the split corn best for mice.

I also use a wax block for rats but you need a license to buy and use them.

Always pick up dead rats as secondary poisoning can and does take place if people are careless.

hope this helps
 
mally said:
the rats have recovered from the first dose and need a larger dose to kill them therefore becoming resistant to that type of poison.
Hmmn, I've been putting loads down in several locations for that reason, as much as would physically fill the chamber in the station (is this enough?). Very careful with the feed, the hopper lid is closed mid afternoon, and any spillage left by birds cleared away at dusk (never feed maize anyway); all remaining small gaps in pens covered with 1/2" wire and concrete slabs just in case as I know they will attack birds if they are desperate (some friends had all their birds attacked by rats, not killed outright but died later from the injuries).

Just changed to a bait with a different active ingredient, hopefully this will sort them. I've never had any this persistent before :(
 
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There are certain laws concerning the amount of poison i can put down in public areas, thats because i'm licensed to do so, that license also allows me to buy poisons which are more effective. If i had an infestation in my garden then i would put down as a first treatment a 1 litre jug full covered with a tunnel so it's out of the way of not target species. I'd put 2-3 bait stations down with this quantity. But by law i could only put down 250gr per bait station, If i was doing the job for a customer.(that amount could be eaten in an hour if the area was infested).

It's a good idea to to change bait types if it no longer seems effective.

tracking powder is also very effective but the type i use is not available to the public. This gets on the rats fur and is injested when the rat grooms itself, this method is good in grain stores where it's difficult to get the rats to eat your bait.

hope this helps
 
mally said:
I'd put 2-3 bait stations down with this quantity. But by law i could only put down 250gr per bait station, If i was doing the job for a customer.(that amount could be eaten in an hour if the area was infested). It's a good idea to to change bait types if it no longer seems effective.

Oh well, just put as much 'Tomcat' (which claims to be suitable for 'some coagulent-resistant populations') as I could safely cover in each location, most of a 2kg bucket; will repeat if it goes. If they're still around after a few rounds of this, I'll have to call someone in. :angry:
 
Our cats get Rats :x , unfortunately they drop them on the doorstep as pressy's ok if you see it, not so good if you tread on it!!! :x :x :x some are huge!!
 

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