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[VictoriaSonny]

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Hi!
Question about worms.
Sonny was wormed when we picked him and was pooing out dead ones for a week or so. He got wormed again yesterday, 4 weeks after the last dose, and more worms came out this morning. Does the mean he has had worms for the last 4 weeks and they have been alive? Or does this mean the wormed didn’t get them all out the first time? I’m a bit concerned!
Thanks

 

[excuseme]

Yes these worms will have been alive and probably reproducing in your dogs system.
Where have you been getting your worming products from, if they have been over the counter or from a pet shop they may not be very effective.
I would suggest that you speak to your vet to get some effective worming treatment.

Advisory information:
Puppies should start their worming from 2 weeks of age with a safe product such as "Drontol puppy"(the breeder should have started this), and continued every 2 weeks until 12 weeks of age, thereafter monthly until 6 months. Regular 3 monthly worming or faecal worm counts thereafter.
"Google" Drontol wormers for furthur information.
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[VictoriaSonny]

Hmm. The worming is done at the vets! So it should be effective? He is now 13 weeks old so will be being wormed once a month from now on anyway. The vet didn’t say anything about being wormed every 2 weeks when he was younger either so not sure on that one!

 

[excuseme]

Hmm. It's quiet probable that the breeder never wormed the puppies and your puppy has a very heavy infestation. I would suggest that you mention the amount of worms still being produced to your vet on your next visit.
Have you any idea what product your vet is using?
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[Jan Woodhall]

Hmm. The worming is done at the vets! So it should be effective? He is now 13 weeks old so will be being wormed once a month from now on anyway. The vet didn’t say anything about being wormed every 2 weeks when he was younger either so not sure on that one!

HI! i'm new (ish) to having a puppy again, so not really very knowledgeqble on things. However, the manufacturers will tell you anything to sell their product and the welfare is often a secondary factor! ( humans too!) I always try to get a more natural source where possible, and only use proprietary things when there is no suitable and satisfactory alternative. Anything that is 'man produced' is toxic in one way or another where treatments are concerned ( don't get me started on human stuff! LOL) So my advice is to get on the Internet and check out what you are advised. Only then can you make a solid informed decision. This forum is full of really great people who know loads, but not every one who gives advice, gives the BEST advice! Best of luck - I'm following the same challenge with my puppy currently!

 

[Hemlock]

Puppies are born with worms that travel down the placenta having been encysted in the mother dog. Even bitches that have been conscientiously wormed all their lives pass on worms like this.

Thus pups need worming every 2 weeks until 12 weeks then every month until 6 months, then you can worm according to worm counts, or else every 6 months will suffice. Worms are picked up all through a dog's life no matter how careful the owner. They are just a fact of stockmanship and this applies to any animal.

 

[VictoriaSonny]

Hmm. It's quiet probable that the breeder never wormed the puppies and your puppy has a very heavy infestation. I would suggest that you mention the amount of worms still being produced to your vet on your next visit.
Have you any idea what product your vet is using?
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[VictoriaSonny]

It’s weird because he’s not shown any symptoms of worms. Before hand, he had a pot belly. But his poos have been fine, no symptoms at all. I don’t know what they use. May give them a call tomorrow. The breeder definitely wormed them though.

 

[excuseme]

A "pot belly" is often an indication and can be a symptom of worms.
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[Jan Woodhall]

Puppies are born with worms that travel down the placenta having been encysted in the mother dog. Even bitches that have been conscientiously wormed all their lives pass on worms like this.

Thus pups need worming every 2 weeks until 12 weeks then every month until 6 months, then you can worm according to worm counts, or else every 6 months will suffice. Worms are picked up all through a dog's life no matter how careful the owner. They are just a fact of stockmanship and this applies to any animal.

Hi! I've not seen any worms in my Robin, and he is not over-eating, so I think he is low in worms - but thinking about either worming him to be sure (not my fav thought!) or get a wor count done, they are not always effective, would be interested in your experiences with worm counting?

 

[VictoriaSonny]

A "pot belly" is often an indication and can be a symptom of worms.
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[VictoriaSonny]

I meant before hand when he did have them he had a pot belly so I knew he had them. This time he has had no symptoms.

 

[lurcherman]

The right drug will sort it, apart from one pup I’ve never had a problem, routine and right drug ,

 

[Hemlock]

We often don't see symptoms unless there is a huge worm burden because worms and their hosts live in symbiosis, much as we feel yucky about it. Also wormers only kill worms at certain stages of their life, so we get rid of adult worms and there is a load more developing which aren't at the stage of growth that allows the wormers to kill them. After worming, an adult dog will digest the worms, so we won't see any in the faeces - the wormers destroy the worms' protective slime. Sorry if this is TMI but that's how it is.

Wormers are toxic - they have to be - so once puppy worms are dealt with, it's best to go for a worm count, or else worm minimally, which is twice a year unless you see something or if your dog eats wildlife. I always freeze wild meat for 3 months before I feed it raw.

 

[Finsky]

Even I do give chemical worming tables with my girls...every 6 months, but because they do pick of manner of things to eat along their walks I also give them regularly some Human food grade DE-powder. It doesn't have smell or taste and will blend very well into spoonful of melting icecream.......or gravy It is easily given and taken as well and it helps to keep the numbers under control.
I use with chickens internally as well as externally to keep all manner of 'unwanted creatures' away.

 

[excuseme]

What is the DE-powder ? I've never heard of it !

 

[Biker John]

Excuseme, I assume Frinsky means Diatomaceous Earth.

 

[excuseme]

Thank you @Biker John, I will have to have a look to see what exactly it is and it's uses.
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[Hemlock]

If you use it, be sure to get the top grade and don't be tempted to use the cheaper DE. I don't use it for worming, though it's perfectly all right to do so, but I do put it in dog beds to deal with any flea eggs or larvae that might be about. It isn't wise to put it where dogs might inhale it, so I put it under and between sheets of newspaper - a really thick layer - then put bedding on top of some layers of non-DE treated newspaper. Allegedly newsprint repels fleas too.

 

[K9manifesto]

Hi!
Question about worms.
Sonny was wormed when we picked him and was pooing out dead ones for a week or so. He got wormed again yesterday, 4 weeks after the last dose, and more worms came out this morning. Does the mean he has had worms for the last 4 weeks and they have been alive? Or does this mean the wormed didn’t get them all out the first time? I’m a bit concerned!
Thanks

yes because the worm is alive and cannot be killed for one dose or twice it say that it can be killed for 3-4 times of deworming .. also must use the deworming product from your vet recommendation. dont worry that's just normal at all .