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Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and looking for any advice or information. This is a difficult subject and I would appreciate if everyone could refrain from judging or making nasty comments as I feel horrible enough already!

I have a border collie/greyhound mix, 4 years and had him since he was a pup. He has very serious anxiety issues which have been a challenge right from the beginning.

He has separation anxiety and has destroyed my house to a point you would not believe. I hated going home for a long time, as I would return to bits of door and frame all over the hallway. I have only just got it (almost) back to the point that it is presentable, but he goes through stages and I never know when he will start again. I tried crating him at one point using suggested methods such as gradual introduction and positive association with the crate. If I remember correctly all was well for about a week and then one day he chewed through the metal bars, opened crate and got out. He then proceeded to chew at the window, managed to open that too and escaped into the neighbourhood.

He is extremely whiny, restless and on edge even with tremendous amounts of exercise. I believe he is never truly relaxed. He paces back and forth indoors and as soon as he thinks you are going to move off the couch he RUNS through the house. Recently he has cut his head running into the door. He is always anxious to know what is happening.

When visitors he knows come over, for instance my mother today, he is so excited and restless, it is not enjoyable for me or the guest, and I'm fairly sure he does not enjoy it either. Even if he loves the person, the experience of having a guest in the house is stressful for him. Obviously he cannot tell me this but I am sure. He can't relax when someone is here and by the time they leave I am exhausted by his whining, pacing etc.

In the car he whines and barks out of anxiety and this is extremely distracting and stressful whilst driving.

However, I can deal with all of that stuff.. the biggest problem is his aggression. He is extremely territorial. He barks very aggressively as soon as someone knocks on the door, if he hears a voice shout hello he absolutely loses it. Once the person comes through the door he will bark viciously and lunge towards them, crouching and jumping around. It is really scary.

He has bitten once already. A woman he did not know was passing my parents' very rural home whilst he was outside with my brother. Their garden is less secure that mine and he leaped over the wall, chased her down the road and bit her on the bum. After this incident I cried and cried and went back and forth for weeks on what to do. I made myself quite ill. I have anxiety and depression myself and this whole situation has been terrible for my mental health.

At home the dog basically only ever accepts people he has known well from very early puppyhood. This includes my immediate family and one or two family friends. My poor boyfriend cannot have his friends or even his parents in our home. His parents have literally never stepped foot in our house.

ONCE we managed to have two friends over for drinks. However, this was only possible because the dog had spend 3/4 hours with them on the beach beforehand, and even then he would not settle and irritated our guests. It's really isolating.

Another major issue is that the dog is so stranger aggressive that we can't take him to the vets. The last two times he went it was so horrendously traumatising for everyone involved (us, the dog, the vet and all the surgery staff). Me and my boyfriend had to take him back outside and tackle him in the car park to get a muzzle on him. He has needed to be muzzled on both occasions and the procedures would not have been possible otherwise.

I hope to consult a vet and a behaviourist about these issues. However, i feel that his aggression and anxiety are so severe that they will suggest euthanasia for both the safety of others and the quality of life of my dog. It breaks my heart to think about this. I would love to work with a behaviourist but I fear that it is beyond that point. Even if the behaviour is improved, I am fairly sure he will never be completely trusted. I can't avoid having people over forever. What happens when me and my boyfriend want to have children? Probably in the next 3-5 years. Even if he seemed fine around our children, I

I admit that I did not get this dog from a reputable breeder, he is a crossbreed and I am aware of the fact he was taken away from his mother at a young age. He was my first dog, and my ex-partner was not very helpful with training, often encouraging problem behaviour. I have made my mistakes too along the line However I truly believe that the dogs brain is not wired right and I don't know what to do. Please don't judge me too much for this. I've had the dog 4.5 years now and adapted my life to suit him. I have tried really hard and now just looking for some help.
 
Firstly im so sorry I cannot offer constructive advice as I feel vastly underqualified to offer any. But a behaviouist may help. In the mean time it sounds like such an exhausting exsistence. Im sure your doing everything you can and hope you get the help you need. Chin up!
 
I feel for you I really do. No one will judge you. You have been a saint to have struggled with your dog's behaviour for this long.

Is it curable? I think the only way you are really going to know this is by consulting a good behaviourist from either COAPE or APBC. They will not suggest, from the outset, that your dog should be euthanized. They will give you a behaviour modification programme to work on with him and may well suggest that, should you not be able to follow it or, for any reason, it is not successful then the last option will be to euthanize him. It would not be fair, for instance, to re home him. The people you are going to be seeing are dog lovers. They will not want to give up on him without trying absolutely everything in their power to help him.

In order to see a good behaviourist your dog will have to see a vet. There are so many medical and physical reasons for dogs to be aggressive that you would be wasting your money, and the behaviourist their time, to go ahead without a vet check only to find a physical cause for his behaviour.

Vets see dogs like yours all the time. They will advise you on how to manage the consultation. They may want him muzzled from the outset. They might like to see him only in the car park as dogs don't feel quite so trapped there. It will all be very traumatic for him and, therefore, for you.

When the behaviourist comes they will want your dog muzzled and on a good quality collar and lead.

For both of the above situations and indeed many others, it would be better if he was already trained to wear a muzzle. The Baskerville muzzle is a good one. The dog can pant and drink while wearing one. Sometimes vets require a different kind that can be worn for short periods of time. Teach him that it is a fantastic new toy for him. Smear cream cheese or xylitol free peanut butter on it for him to lick off. Once he is happy to put his nose in it then just clip it on for a second or two at first. Put it on briefly lots of times each day until he is comfortable wearing his fantastic new piece of kit.

You will find that muzzling him will give you a huge sense of relief. He is no longer a danger when he is wearing it. Of course he could, feasibly, get it off, so should be on lead, too, in difficult situations. I know of several dogs who happily wear their muzzles when running free off lead. To them it is just like wearing a collar.

You don't say what sort of diet your dog is on. Diet can have a huge effect on a dog's behaviour. Some foods are full of additives (did I say Baker's?) and others are just not high enough quality to meet the needs of the dog. There is a complete food new to the market called Breakthrough. It is devised by a top behaviourist (Val Strong) and is proving to be very effective in supporting dogs with behaviour problems. It acts on the nervous system to make the dog feel calmer and, therefore, help them to learn new ways of behaving. It will not cure a problem but it can give you a window to work with.

Given his very difficult behaviour are you able to exercise him? Is he able to practice his breed specific behaviours of running like a greyhound and working like a collie?

If you engage a behaviourist they will want to know all this. They will want a complete history of him from birth up to date. Every little thing you can remember will help them to understand why he behaves the way he does. This, in turn, will help them come up with a plan.

Do not be persuaded to use any other kind of behaviourist than one from the organisations listed above.
 
Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum and looking for any advice or information. This is a difficult subject and I would appreciate if everyone could refrain from judging or making nasty comments as I feel horrible enough already!

I have a border collie/greyhound mix, 4 years and had him since he was a pup. He has very serious anxiety issues which have been a challenge right from the beginning.

He has separation anxiety and has destroyed my house to a point you would not believe. I hated going home for a long time, as I would return to bits of door and frame all over the hallway. I have only just got it (almost) back to the point that it is presentable, but he goes through stages and I never know when he will start again. I tried crating him at one point using suggested methods such as gradual introduction and positive association with the crate. If I remember correctly all was well for about a week and then one day he chewed through the metal bars, opened crate and got out. He then proceeded to chew at the window, managed to open that too and escaped into the neighbourhood.

He is extremely whiny, restless and on edge even with tremendous amounts of exercise. I believe he is never truly relaxed. He paces back and forth indoors and as soon as he thinks you are going to move off the couch he RUNS through the house. Recently he has cut his head running into the door. He is always anxious to know what is happening.

When visitors he knows come over, for instance my mother today, he is so excited and restless, it is not enjoyable for me or the guest, and I'm fairly sure he does not enjoy it either. Even if he loves the person, the experience of having a guest in the house is stressful for him. Obviously he cannot tell me this but I am sure. He can't relax when someone is here and by the time they leave I am exhausted by his whining, pacing etc.

In the car he whines and barks out of anxiety and this is extremely distracting and stressful whilst driving.

However, I can deal with all of that stuff.. the biggest problem is his aggression. He is extremely territorial. He barks very aggressively as soon as someone knocks on the door, if he hears a voice shout hello he absolutely loses it. Once the person comes through the door he will bark viciously and lunge towards them, crouching and jumping around. It is really scary.

He has bitten once already. A woman he did not know was passing my parents' very rural home whilst he was outside with my brother. Their garden is less secure that mine and he leaped over the wall, chased her down the road and bit her on the bum. After this incident I cried and cried and went back and forth for weeks on what to do. I made myself quite ill. I have anxiety and depression myself and this whole situation has been terrible for my mental health.

At home the dog basically only ever accepts people he has known well from very early puppyhood. This includes my immediate family and one or two family friends. My poor boyfriend cannot have his friends or even his parents in our home. His parents have literally never stepped foot in our house.

ONCE we managed to have two friends over for drinks. However, this was only possible because the dog had spend 3/4 hours with them on the beach beforehand, and even then he would not settle and irritated our guests. It's really isolating.

Another major issue is that the dog is so stranger aggressive that we can't take him to the vets. The last two times he went it was so horrendously traumatising for everyone involved (us, the dog, the vet and all the surgery staff). Me and my boyfriend had to take him back outside and tackle him in the car park to get a muzzle on him. He has needed to be muzzled on both occasions and the procedures would not have been possible otherwise.

I hope to consult a vet and a behaviourist about these issues. However, i feel that his aggression and anxiety are so severe that they will suggest euthanasia for both the safety of others and the quality of life of my dog. It breaks my heart to think about this. I would love to work with a behaviourist but I fear that it is beyond that point. Even if the behaviour is improved, I am fairly sure he will never be completely trusted. I can't avoid having people over forever. What happens when me and my boyfriend want to have children? Probably in the next 3-5 years. Even if he seemed fine around our children, I

I admit that I did not get this dog from a reputable breeder, he is a crossbreed and I am aware of the fact he was taken away from his mother at a young age. He was my first dog, and my ex-partner was not very helpful with training, often encouraging problem behaviour. I have made my mistakes too along the line However I truly believe that the dogs brain is not wired right and I don't know what to do. Please don't judge me too much for this. I've had the dog 4.5 years now and adapted my life to suit him. I have tried really hard and now just looking for some help.
Hi i have just seen your post my heart goes out to you and your beautiful boy, have you heard of Reactive dogs uk. it is a support group on facebook that give support to each other, ways of dealing with issues your boy has. the issues you are speaking about i have seen regulary in folks post, look it up ask to join nobody there is judgemental, you will get the help you need just ask they can put you in touch with dog behaviorist in your area. please look them up for you and your boy. x

Hi i have just seen your post my heart goes out to you and your beautiful boy, have you heard of Reactive dogs uk. it is a support group on facebook that give support to each other, ways of dealing with issues your boy has. the issues you are speaking about i have seen regulary in folks post, look it up ask to join nobody there is judgemental, you will get the help you need just ask they can put you in touch with dog behaviorist in your area. please look them up for you and your boy. x
 
Hi guys,

thanks for your replies. I did not realise that anyone had replied to me as I didn't get any notifications or emails or anything.

I have decided to muzzle train him using the method that you mentioned, gypsysmum2. I already have a baskerville muzzle for him.

I am then planning on getting both a vet and a behaviourists opinion. I'm also going to try some over-the-counter remedies.

Thanks again.
 
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