Autoimmune Disease

[Noise]

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does anyone know where I can find info online about the autoimmune disease, specifically in whippets? I've looked myself but can't seem to find anything. cheers

 

[granny-mo]

Hello Noise

My Giant Schnauzer has systemic lupoid onychodystrophy or SLO for short. It is an autoimmune disease that can affect any dog. We went to the vet when she became lame with loose claws. If this is the same as your whippet I have a years experience of this worrying illness. Dont be disheartened, Meg is much better than she was a year ago and I am happy to share any information with you.

PS Greyhounds are particularly affected by SLO for some reason.

Granny Mo

 

[jayp]

Hiya, We met at Stafford a while ago, have a look at this website, i have just finished some links so if you go on the health pages i have put some links on there

http://www.freewebs.com/northerncountieswh...tclub/links.htm

Jan x

 

[bertha]

I hate to say this, but dogs don't get "auto-immune" they have an immune mediated disease. There is a difference, you cannot get auto-immune.

 

[Noise]

I hate to say this, but dogs don't get "auto-immune" they have an immune mediated disease. There is a difference, you cannot get auto-immune.

now I know

erm, false alarm, thank god, I was really worried that Eskil might have it, he in fact has now been diagnosed with colitis.

anyhow, i have wanted to find out more about the immune mediated disease, thank you for the links Jayp.

 

[dawn]

I hate to say this, but dogs don't get "auto-immune" they have an immune mediated disease. There is a difference, you cannot get auto-immune.

Sorry Bertha but Immune Mediated is NOT synonymous with Auto-Immune

 

[masta]

Autoimmune diseases arise from an overactive immune response of the body against substances and tissues normally present in the body. In other words, the body really attacks its own cells. This may be restricted to certain organs (e.g. in thyroiditis) or involve a particular tissue in different places (e.g. Goodpasture's disease which may affect the basement membrane in both the lung and the kidney). The treatment of autoimmune diseases is typically with immunosuppression—medication which decreases the immune response.

Immune-mediated diseases are conditions which result from abnormal activity of the body's immune system. The immune system may over-react (for example, immune-mediated contact dermatitis) or start attacking the body (for example, autoimmune hemolytic anemia). Autoimmune diseases are a subset of immune-mediated diseases.

 

[bertha]

Autoimmune diseases arise from an overactive immune response of the body against substances and tissues normally present in the body. In other words, the body really attacks its own cells. This may be restricted to certain organs (e.g. in thyroiditis) or involve a particular tissue in different places (e.g. Goodpasture's disease which may affect the basement membrane in both the lung and the kidney). The treatment of autoimmune diseases is typically with immunosuppression—medication which decreases the immune response.
Immune-mediated diseases are conditions which result from abnormal activity of the body's immune system. The immune system may over-react (for example, immune-mediated contact dermatitis) or start attacking the body (for example, autoimmune hemolytic anemia). Autoimmune diseases are a subset of immune-mediated diseases.

Thank you. I know i was right having had long chats with a friend who is a fully qualified vet. I was picking her brains when a friend had problems, fortunately her whippets problem was nothing to do with the immune system.

In people Lupus is an immune mediated disease as is Retnauds,[spelling?] and various forms of rheumatism and arthritis. Dogs can also get these problems.

As I said, your dog cannot get auto immune, it can have an immune meditated problem.

 

[Whippets Rule]

I hate to say this, but dogs don't get "auto-immune" they have an immune mediated disease. There is a difference, you cannot get auto-immune.

Sorry Bertha but Immune Mediated is NOT synonymous with Auto-Immune

completely agree.

(I work with four vets and have four further vets as pals too, just in case it's a competition. ) (w00t) :clown:

 

[bertha]

I hate to say this, but dogs don't get "auto-immune" they have an immune mediated disease. There is a difference, you cannot get auto-immune.

Sorry Bertha but Immune Mediated is NOT synonymous with Auto-Immune

completely agree.

(I work with four vets and have four further vets as pals too, just in case it's a competition. ) (w00t) :clown:

Now you've confused me!!!!!!!!!!! Who are you agreeing with????????????? :unsure:

 

[Whippets Rule]

I hate to say this, but dogs don't get "auto-immune" they have an immune mediated disease. There is a difference, you cannot get auto-immune.

Sorry Bertha but Immune Mediated is NOT synonymous with Auto-Immune

completely agree.

(I work with four vets and have four further vets as pals too, just in case it's a competition. ) (w00t) :clown:

Now you've confused me!!!!!!!!!!! Who are you agreeing with????????????? :unsure:

well since i was replying to Dawn i would imagine i was agreeing with Dawn since I said ......completely agree :lol: :clown:

 

[jayp]

Well if you looked at the links supplied it would all become clear :-

 

[Whippets Rule]

Well if you looked at the links supplied it would all become clear :-

having done plenty of research due to my own dog having immune problems i tend to take with a pinch of salt a fair amount of what i read on the internet and go with what the specialists have told us but each to his own :-

 

[dawn]

Well if you looked at the links supplied it would all become clear :-

The link isn't working Jan.

 

[beaker]

:b sorry that was my fault for mucking around with it,

try this link

http://www.freewebs.com/northerncountieswh...healthpages.htm

 

[masta]

Well if you looked at the links supplied it would all become clear :-

having done plenty of research due to my own dog having immune problems i tend to take with a pinch of salt a fair amount of what i read on the internet and go with what the specialists have told us but each to his own :-

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but what if it was a specialist that wrote the article??

 

[Whippets Rule]

Well if you looked at the links supplied it would all become clear :-

having done plenty of research due to my own dog having immune problems i tend to take with a pinch of salt a fair amount of what i read on the internet and go with what the specialists have told us but each to his own :-

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but what if it was a specialist that wrote the article??

doubtful but makes no difference, I have to go with the ones who are actually treating my dog.besides it's too easy to get the wrong information online and make the condition worse.always better to get info from the horses mouth as it were.

 

[masta]

Well if you looked at the links supplied it would all become clear :-

having done plenty of research due to my own dog having immune problems i tend to take with a pinch of salt a fair amount of what i read on the internet and go with what the specialists have told us but each to his own :-

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but what if it was a specialist that wrote the article??

doubtful but makes no difference, I have to go with the ones who are actually treating my dog.besides it's too easy to get the wrong information online and make the condition worse.always better to get info from the horses mouth as it were.

strange? i work within a medical field and every specialist i know uses the internet as a research tool, the internet started as a communication tool for medics, as you say each to their own

 

[bertha]

I still stick by what I said, your dog cannot 'get' auto-immune, it gets an immune mediated disease. I thought everybody knew that. My vets know it.

 

[dawn]

strange? i work within a medical field and every specialist i know uses the internet as a research tool, the internet started as a communication tool for medics, as you say each to their own

 

There are sites which are not available to Joe Public but are available to 'specialists' in whatever field, usually via subscription and/or business accounts including specialist health sites. These tend to be the ones used for specialist research purposes. Even then it appropriate to consider the validity of any post.

 

It depends on who you speak with as to whether you can rely 100% on anyone one person's knowledge / interpretation of the facts.

 

Three professors travel by train into Scotland. In the first field they see there is a black sheep.

The first professor says "We can deduce from this that all sheep in Scotland are black".

The second professor says "We can deduce from this that there is at least one black sheep in Scotland.

The third professor says " we can deduce from this that one half of one sheep in one field in Scotland is black"

 

Which professor was wrong?

 

In human terms a Consultant Haematologist knows more about blood problems and related complications than a GP would. Which is why your GP refers you a Consultant (you often see a Registrar though) about the more complicated / unusual problems eg AHIA.