Bean And Tilly Again

[kim & Tilly]

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ok the fighting when out is still on going with Tilly and Bean.

Tilly wont let bean run at all with out barging her and makeing her roll over, then she keeps her on the floor upside down, growling and fighting (no blood) every time beans tries to run she is knocked over by Tilly

If other dogs come along she is worse and wont let her go and look at them.

Today i got home from work and they had been in the outside cage, amy noticed bean had a cut by her mouth, had a look and she has a tooth mark, whether it was hers or tillys i have no idea...

Then tonight, i was giving them their tea (seperate bowls) and bean went to swap over like the do, and tilly went for her, proper (get lost growl)

I am now worried about them....

I am having Tilly spayed in December and now Bean is a year old do you think they will settle down?????? or do i need to think about rehoming beanie????

I need help

 

[Louise_Simon]

I've no advise really as my three are ok, Morrissey does jump on Daisy when running so I just run them one at a time and take oh, so one to hold dog not running the other to entertain the running dog.

At home there is general scrapping but nothing out of the ordinary just zooming about jumping over furniture etc.

But Daisy the demonic is alot quieter now shes been done o

Morrissey is just throwing his weight around and taking advantage of her, but he's still a baby even if he weighs more and is bigger

Sorry no real help here but I hope everything sorts its self out for you all :luck:

 

[Rae]

Kim if you can find a really good home for Bean then yes I think you should .

I dont think you can manage her and it might be better all round to find her somewhere really fantastic now, before she looses confidence etc, and while she is still young, rather than keep putting it off. You've always struggled with her and it's probably best to do it now rather than let things go on.

Good luck with what you decide, and to Bean :wub: :luck:

I'm not one that takes re-homing a dog lightly, but sometimes it's in everyone's best interests.

Edited to say - do you think Tilly was happier as an only dog?

 

[kim & Tilly]

Kim if you can find a really good home for Bean then yes I think you should  . 
I dont think you can manage her and it might be better all round to find her somewhere really fantastic now,  before she looses confidence etc, and while she is still young, rather  than keep putting it off.  You've always struggled with her and it's probably best to do it now rather than let things go on. Your right she has always been very manic, and far more excitable, she is doing things Tilly would never dream of (jumping on the table and sides, chewing everything) she needs someone who can spend extra time with her, because she has so much to give and just wants to please...shes like an over excitable child on blue smartiees

Good luck with what you decide, and to Bean  :wub:   :luck:

I'm not one that takes re-homing a dog lightly, but sometimes it's in everyone's best interests. when she is quiet she is the loveliest dog ever, she has a lovely look and is very loyal, her recal is fab.....i am crying because i dont want to part with her, but i cant cope with her either, i feel like im just giving up on her

Edited to say - do you think Tilly was happier as an only dog? tilly is also very loyal and is def my dog, she follows me all the time, and gets really jealous if bean comes near me or sits on me. I think she was happier as an only dog, but they also snuggle up together and sometimes can be so good together.

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[Evie]

Kim,

I'm so sorry to hear how much you have been struggling with your two. I cna't offer any advice but want to wish you all the very best, what ever you decide. :luck:

Have you considered a dog behaviourist to help?

 

[kirsty]

That's a shame things are looking that way. Good luck in whatever choice you make. It is such an upsetting and difficult position to be in :luck:

 

[Strike Whippets]

What a shame ......do you want me to have her for a while and see if Bean settles in here ?? .....shs such a lovely lass, Hannah

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

... we always suggested that the submissive bitch should be spayed ...the theory is to create a bigger gap of personality to combat competition between them...makin them equal is not the answer....

im afraid 2 bitches that fight often can be a problem that is only solved by rehoming one of them but i would advise seeing a therapist good luck :luck:

 

[kim & Tilly]

... we always suggested that the submissive bitch should be spayed ...the theory is to create a bigger gap of personality to combat competition between them...makin them equal is not the answer....im afraid 2 bitches that fight often can be a problem that is only solved by rehoming one of them but  i would advise seeing a therapist good luck :luck:

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When you say the submissive bitch (and im a bit thick) do you mean Tilly or bean??

The plan is to spey both of them, but tilly is nearly two and has just finished a season, so she is ready to be done in dec...

 

[Joanna]

So sorry to hear you are struggling Kim...............Hope you manage to find a solution to your problems, sometimes, with the best will in the world, things just don't work out as you would like them to.

I don't profess to be an expert, just a pet owner, but it does sound as if you have two very dominant females. I am sure there are many ways to sort out the heirachy issues, but it will be time consuming.............Talk to your vet before you make any decisions, perhaps they may have some suggestions that would work for you?

Good luck, I am again so sorry :luck:

 

[kim & Tilly]

i think tilly was here first and is showing bean who's boss, and bean is so vocal and is a feisty little bitch

They just clash

 

[doris]

oh Kim, poor you what a horrible position to be in

can't offer advice but hope you find a solution that works for you all :luck:

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

... we always suggested that the submissive bitch should be spayed ...the theory is to create a bigger gap of personality to combat competition between them...makin them equal is not the answer....im afraid 2 bitches that fight often can be a problem that is only solved by rehoming one of them but  i would advise seeing a therapist good luck :luck:

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When you say the submissive bitch (and im a bit thick) do you mean Tilly or bean??

The plan is to spey both of them, but tilly is nearly two and has just finished a season, so she is ready to be done in dec...

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if they are not showing as truly dominant/submissive be careful as getting it wrong could make things worse.... it is a really awful situation to be in but there are many experts out there.. find the best you can ....best of luck :huggles:

 

[Strike Whippets]

Tillys just showing Bean shes top dog ......The bowling Bean over, pinning her, growling etc....is Tillys way of saying "don't mess with me or I have the power to hurt you" ......If you have Tilly spayed and you say Bean can be feisty then you will make this problem worse as it'll lower Tillys position and make Bean higher, causing more problems .......As I said earlier if you want me to have Bean for a while and see if she settles in her then just let me know ....... :luck: either way, Hannah

 

[mally]

The answer is simple just let the dogs off one at a time!!!!!. :- "

 

[kim & Tilly]

The answer is simple just let the dogs off one at a time!!!!!. :- "

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Tried that amlly, but tilly rams her while on lead, the only way i can do it is if i take them out one at a time....

But no tilly has bitten her on the mouth, while i was at work, now what do i do??

She needs someone to take her out all the time, she is a very active coursing dog after all, i didnt know how manic they are..

 

[Hilary & Hounds]

Some bitches just don't get on together and some just don't like other girlies. I agree with Rae, and I know how heartbreaking this decision can be. Maybe Tilly would be happier on her own or with a boy dog for company.

Good luck whatever you decide. :luck:

 

[*Lesley*]

Do you want us to tell you that you should rehome her Kim?,will it make it easier?, well I think you should, after all you haven't really been happy about her from the start lets face it, sorry if I'm being too honest and I know it's probably a hard decision but its better sooner rather than later before she does something else and people are put off by what you're saying.

She and Tilly will probably always have these issues but to be honest the rest of the things she does sounds like a typical whippet to me, I have 2 coursing bred and they are no livelier than the 2 show breds, they all need time and patience whatever the breeding.

Sorry if my oppinion offends but I think it's been a long time coming

 

[kim & Tilly]

Do you want us to tell you that you should rehome her Kim?,will it make it easier?, well I think you should, after all you haven't really been happy about her from the start lets face it, sorry if I'm being too honest and I know it's probably a hard decision but its better sooner rather than later before she does something else and people are put off by what you're saying.
She and Tilly will probably always have these issues but to be honest the rest of the things she does sounds like a typical whippet to me, I have 2 coursing bred and they are no livelier than the 2 show breds, they all need time and patience whatever the breeding.

Sorry if my oppinion offends but I think it's been a long time coming

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[SIZE=14pt]Yes it does sound harsh, just because I have had some problems with her in which I have asked advice on... what am I to do?[/SIZE]

 

Tilly is bullying Bean now she is biting bean, she has now drawn blood on her mouth.... what should I do just ignore it???

 

When I say she is doing things Tilly won’t dream off all I mean is she is feisty, she is hard work, but I am happy to put in the time and effort with her. We managed to control the biting Amy, didn’t I...using the shaker method.

 

But why should bean not be able to go for a walk without being bumped, squashed and unable to run because Tilly pins her down, how is that fun for her?

 

And now there is proper fighting, blood being drawn

 

I don’t look at rehoming lightly I LOVE bean I don’t want her to go somewhere else, BUT I also want her to have a good and happy life.

 

I can cope with whippety things, I can manage with a half eaten mobile or only wearing one slipper......perhaps it’s my fault, perhaps I should have known coursing whippets are so highly strung, but I didn’t

 

All I can say is you can’t guarantee all whippets will get on, no matter what, or what you do, because they are animals and you NEVER know how they will react

 

You say I haven’t been happy with her from the start...that’s rubbish I just had some problems....I was hoping I could work through them, that as they grew and matured things would work out better, I still hope that now......

 

 

Just because all your dogs get on wonderfully, well arent you the lucky one

 

Off to bed!!!!!

 

have had some lovely Pm's thank you

 

[Vicky]

I don't know what to suggest, i think there are all kinds of issue's here. I think both dogs are at fault and to me it sounds like you have no control over either of them (not just Bean). Do any of them actually know that YOU are the boss and not them? They're running all over you from the sounds of things.