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So pleased with Bridie's win in Junior, and also our Twiggy who made the last 8 in the huge Open class. :huggles:

Really well done to Rachel and Jo on winning a super Post Grad class with Ruby who never put a foot wrong: :wub:

So pleased to see lots of members who were in the cards, some lovely whippets:thumbsup:

Huge congratulations to all the winners who got top honours :cheers:

Yvette

 

[dolly]

You can withhold a res CC, in the other breed i have shown it has happened on quite a fefw occasions.

If you say awarded the CC, then thought no other dog was worthy if the CC winner was disqualified, you are well within your rights to withhold the res cc.

 

[lizzyb]

Well Done to all in the Cards :cheers: :thumbsup:

 

[whippynit]

Well done everyone, we didnt stay right untill the end as it was my first time driving that far on my own and wanted get going before rush hour traffic!! Special congrats to Jackie and Peanut, Helen and Leo and Jo with Rocco and Ruby! :cheers:

 

[Alayna Morland]

You can withhold a res CC, in the other breed i have shown it has happened on quite a fefw occasions. 
If you say awarded the CC, then thought no other dog was worthy if the CC winner was disqualified, you are well within your rights to withhold the res cc.

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Hi Helen,

I was thinking about it the wrong the way around, you can withhold the CC but not allowed then to award reserve CC!

Alayna x

 

[zenobia]

So pleased with Bridie's win in Junior, and also our Twiggy who made the last 8 in the huge Open class. :huggles:
Really well done to Rachel and Jo on winning a super Post Grad class with Ruby who never put a foot wrong: :wub:

So pleased to see lots of members who were in the cards, some lovely whippets:thumbsup:

Huge congratulations to all the winners who got top honours :cheers:

Yvette

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well done yvette and david with bridie. you must be over the moon.well done to everyone who were in the cards too. :cheers:

 

[Cartman]

After all that, who was res CC? 8)

 

[clardia]

Yes, its just an error - Collooney He's The One got the RCC. :thumbsup:
We were delighted with Ruby winning PGB, she showed her little socks off today bless her. :huggles:   Also with Rocco who got a 2nd and is finally settling down for me  :sweating:

Good day for lovely Peanut getting BP, Bridie with her win in JB and young Leo with his win in MPD :cheers:

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for Cartman who missed this bit :teehee:

 

[clardia]

the KC's logic doesn't make sense.

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I think that might pretty much some it up, I don't think you can withhold the RCC just like if you withhold 3rd place you cannot place 4th and 5th.

The other good one of course is groups, if the whippet puppy is BOB and comes 2nd to Afghan in the Hound Group, it automatically wins the Puppy Hound Group even if the Afghan puppy is present, which it has not beaten.

I know you know this but we still have to explain it to judges who are doing the groups!

Alayna x

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If there is a Best Hound group Puppy scheduled to be challenged for then although the Whippet Puppy is Best of Breed and Best Whippet Puppy and Hound Group 2 - it would then have to challenge all other unbeaten hound Puppys in the scheduled class, as this is a scheduled event, and unless the Hound group Judge had done all the hound breed classes, they would not have had the chance to examine anything other than the best of breeds selected by the breed judges. This surely would be done at any show.

I know the judge can do what they like, but there must be an bit of guidance from the Secretary, or show manager on this, as I am sure this would result in a few very unhappy exhibitors, who would have stayed on for the group Judging.

Pat x

 

[JAX]

Yes, its just an error - Collooney He's The One got the RCC. :thumbsup:
We were delighted with Ruby winning PGB, she showed her little socks off today bless her. :huggles:    Also with Rocco who got a 2nd and is finally settling down for me  :sweating:

Good day for lovely Peanut getting BP, Bridie with her win in JB and young Leo with his win in MPD :cheers:

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for Cartman who missed this bit :teehee:

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he cant help it :wacko: after all he is ONLY a man :lol: , and there s were probably too many other words for him to notice that bit :*

 

[Cartman]

Yes, its just an error - Collooney He's The One got the RCC. :thumbsup:
We were delighted with Ruby winning PGB, she showed her little socks off today bless her. :huggles:    Also with Rocco who got a 2nd and is finally settling down for me  :sweating:

Good day for lovely Peanut getting BP, Bridie with her win in JB and young Leo with his win in MPD :cheers:

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for Cartman who missed this bit :teehee:

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he cant help it :wacko: after all he is ONLY a man :lol: , and there s were probably too many other words for him to notice that bit :*

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Musta missed that bit.

 

[chelynnah]

the KC's logic doesn't make sense.

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I think that might pretty much some it up, I don't think you can withhold the RCC just like if you withhold 3rd place you cannot place 4th and 5th.

The other good one of course is groups, if the whippet puppy is BOB and comes 2nd to Afghan in the Hound Group, it automatically wins the Puppy Hound Group even if the Afghan puppy is present, which it has not beaten.

I know you know this but we still have to explain it to judges who are doing the groups!

Alayna x

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If there is a Best Hound group Puppy scheduled to be challenged for then although the Whippet Puppy is Best of Breed and Best Whippet Puppy and Hound Group 2 - it would then have to challenge all other unbeaten hound Puppys in the scheduled class, as this is a scheduled event, and unless the Hound group Judge had done all the hound breed classes, they would not have had the chance to examine anything other than the best of breeds selected by the breed judges. This surely would be done at any show.

I know the judge can do what they like, but there must be an bit of guidance from the Secretary, or show manager on this, as I am sure this would result in a few very unhappy exhibitors, who would have stayed on for the group Judging.

Pat x

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no, to my understanding, if a BOB puppy gets Adult Group 1 or 2, it automatically goes Puppy Group 1

This has happened at quite a few shows I've been at

Wendy

 

[Cartman]

the KC's logic doesn't make sense.

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I think that might pretty much some it up, I don't think you can withhold the RCC just like if you withhold 3rd place you cannot place 4th and 5th.

The other good one of course is groups, if the whippet puppy is BOB and comes 2nd to Afghan in the Hound Group, it automatically wins the Puppy Hound Group even if the Afghan puppy is present, which it has not beaten.

I know you know this but we still have to explain it to judges who are doing the groups!

Alayna x

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If there is a Best Hound group Puppy scheduled to be challenged for then although the Whippet Puppy is Best of Breed and Best Whippet Puppy and Hound Group 2 - it would then have to challenge all other unbeaten hound Puppys in the scheduled class, as this is a scheduled event, and unless the Hound group Judge had done all the hound breed classes, they would not have had the chance to examine anything other than the best of breeds selected by the breed judges. This surely would be done at any show.

I know the judge can do what they like, but there must be an bit of guidance from the Secretary, or show manager on this, as I am sure this would result in a few very unhappy exhibitors, who would have stayed on for the group Judging.

Pat x

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no, to my understanding, if a BOB puppy gets Adult Group 1 or 2, it automatically goes Puppy Group 1

This has happened at quite a few shows I've been at

Wendy

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Here, the Group winner is automatically what ever class in Group as well. Not heard of Group 2 winning as well.

Same as Best in Show being a Puppy!!!!!!!!!! Now that does happen & it does pi$$ the other puppies off.

 

[Alayna Morland]

the KC's logic doesn't make sense.

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I think that might pretty much some it up, I don't think you can withhold the RCC just like if you withhold 3rd place you cannot place 4th and 5th.

The other good one of course is groups, if the whippet puppy is BOB and comes 2nd to Afghan in the Hound Group, it automatically wins the Puppy Hound Group even if the Afghan puppy is present, which it has not beaten.

I know you know this but we still have to explain it to judges who are doing the groups!

Alayna x

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If there is a Best Hound group Puppy scheduled to be challenged for then although the Whippet Puppy is Best of Breed and Best Whippet Puppy and Hound Group 2 - it would then have to challenge all other unbeaten hound Puppys in the scheduled class, as this is a scheduled event, and unless the Hound group Judge had done all the hound breed classes, they would not have had the chance to examine anything other than the best of breeds selected by the breed judges. This surely would be done at any show.

I know the judge can do what they like, but there must be an bit of guidance from the Secretary, or show manager on this, as I am sure this would result in a few very unhappy exhibitors, who would have stayed on for the group Judging.

Pat x

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no, to my understanding, if a BOB puppy gets Adult Group 1 or 2, it automatically goes Puppy Group 1

This has happened at quite a few shows I've been at

Wendy

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Yes that is right and if a Puppy goes RBIS, it is automatically BPIS too!

Alayna x

 

[T Hoare]

the KC's logic doesn't make sense.

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I think that might pretty much some it up, I don't think you can withhold the RCC just like if you withhold 3rd place you cannot place 4th and 5th.

The other good one of course is groups, if the whippet puppy is BOB and comes 2nd to Afghan in the Hound Group, it automatically wins the Puppy Hound Group even if the Afghan puppy is present, which it has not beaten.

I know you know this but we still have to explain it to judges who are doing the groups!

Alayna x

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If there is a Best Hound group Puppy scheduled to be challenged for then although the Whippet Puppy is Best of Breed and Best Whippet Puppy and Hound Group 2 - it would then have to challenge all other unbeaten hound Puppys in the scheduled class, as this is a scheduled event, and unless the Hound group Judge had done all the hound breed classes, they would not have had the chance to examine anything other than the best of breeds selected by the breed judges. This surely would be done at any show.

I know the judge can do what they like, but there must be an bit of guidance from the Secretary, or show manager on this, as I am sure this would result in a few very unhappy exhibitors, who would have stayed on for the group Judging.

Pat x

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no, to my understanding, if a BOB puppy gets Adult Group 1 or 2, it automatically goes Puppy Group 1

This has happened at quite a few shows I've been at

Wendy

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Yes that is right and if a Puppy goes RBIS, it is automatically BPIS too!

Alayna x

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Going back to the group puppy for a minute.

The only puppy a adult group 2 winner hasn't beaten is the puppy of the group 1 winner so yes in a way it is unfair but this is how it is now. This has only been occuring for the last few years(I think)

 

[clardia]

the KC's logic doesn't make sense.

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I think that might pretty much some it up, I don't think you can withhold the RCC just like if you withhold 3rd place you cannot place 4th and 5th.

The other good one of course is groups, if the whippet puppy is BOB and comes 2nd to Afghan in the Hound Group, it automatically wins the Puppy Hound Group even if the Afghan puppy is present, which it has not beaten.

I know you know this but we still have to explain it to judges who are doing the groups!

Alayna x

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If there is a Best Hound group Puppy scheduled to be challenged for then although the Whippet Puppy is Best of Breed and Best Whippet Puppy and Hound Group 2 - it would then have to challenge all other unbeaten hound Puppys in the scheduled class, as this is a scheduled event, and unless the Hound group Judge had done all the hound breed classes, they would not have had the chance to examine anything other than the best of breeds selected by the breed judges. This surely would be done at any show.

I know the judge can do what they like, but there must be an bit of guidance from the Secretary, or show manager on this, as I am sure this would result in a few very unhappy exhibitors, who would have stayed on for the group Judging.

Pat x

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no, to my understanding, if a BOB puppy gets Adult Group 1 or 2, it automatically goes Puppy Group 1

This has happened at quite a few shows I've been at

Wendy

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Yes that is right and if a Puppy goes RBIS, it is automatically BPIS too!

Alayna x

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Going back to the group puppy for a minute.

The only puppy a adult group 2 winner hasn't beaten is the puppy of the group 1 winner so yes in a way it is unfair but this is how it is now. This has only been occuring for the last few years(I think)

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That is seriously unfair to me. Still I am glad to know exhibitors take this so well.

Pat x

 

[Macha]

Is it definitely correct that the judge didn't award a dog reserve cc? I have seen a few of the eligible contenders before: Ch Airescot Ruby Rascal, Courthill Chase Manhatten,Ch Collooney Hes The One and I can't see how the judge wouldn't have thought one or another of them deserving

 

[rls22]

You must have missed it but on the very first page, I confirmed that the RCC was awarded to Collooney He's The One, it was just an error on higham press.

 

[yvetteshort1]

Yes, as rls22 said, Collooney He's The One definately won the dog RCC. :thumbsup:

Yvette :cheers: