Bitches In Pup

[Tony Taylor]

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Tony can you move the initial list onto a new post it would be handy to keep track of it without having to plough through this lot :cheers:

Yes

I intend to close this particular topic soon. Everyone can have their final say but I'll close before the end of the day. Please keep to the rules though.

 

[jade scott]

I cant see how this topic is now doing anybody any good! Its totally up to each individual if they are 'concerned' about the number of pups being bred and born and respectively the homes they go to. This list is highlighting the bitches mated, not everyone might take, some might only have 1 or 2 pups, meaning that out of that whole list there could be only 30 pups! Nothing is set in stone!

Without doubt there is a continuous 'need' for pups to be bred in our sport otherwise we would have no dogs to race as dogs retire are injured etc, i am also a strong believer that we bred responsibly and as previously stated take lots of time considering the best stud to take the bitch to etc. Having a number of litters bred at one time such as now is just pot luck when the bitches break etc, they could have all been spread out over several months and this may not have caused so much attention to the current breding programmes of our hobby.

As a whole the non ped community is full of people who have kept dogs for years and have been in the sport even longer, MOST and i say most of us do get the dogs as pets first and race them as they are intended as a hobby and they are kept until the end, treated no different (if not better) than most labradors etc. We are not niave enough to think that every dog bred is going to find its forever home from day one, some people cant afford to keep lots of dogs and so are found new homes, I am sure that when this happens these individuals take great care in finding the best possible homes and as suggested keep in contact with the new owners and check on there former pets progress, for these dogs they do get a happy ending!

All dogs have problems with being homed, across the board not just whippets or non peds in specific! We have the luxury that dogs that dont make it in the racing field can be used for Lurcher racing or working, having many strings to their bows. I dont think your concerns are unfounded but maybe slightly miss placed and you should have more faith in the non ped owners!

Good luck to all of the people who have mated bitches, and hope you get the pups required to satisfy your waiting lists!

 

[tinarpoole]

I STARTED THIS TOPIC AND TAKE UMBRAGE TO THE FACT AN ISOLATED PART OF MY POST IE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW MANY PUPS MAKE THE TRACK WAS TAKEN COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT AND TWISTED BY THESE DO GOODERS WHO MISTAKENLY THINK THEY LOVE THERE WHIPPETS MORE THAN US RACERS.GREAT REPLY FROM WILD WHIPPETS AND DONT LET THE MUGS GET TO YOU LYNCHIE.

IF YOU ATTEND THE OPEN RACE SCENE AND CAMP AT ANY BIG MEETING JUST TAKE 10 MINS OUT TO LOOK UP VIC AND MICK MARCHANTS ENTOURAGE THE OLD RACERS STUD DOG AND CURRENT CHAMPIONS ARE ALL TREATED THE SAME AND ARE IN FANTASTIC CONDITION.ITS SAD THEY HAVE PROBABLY LOST RCH NIKES GEM TO A BAD GRACCILUS INJURY BUT RONNIE WILL NEVER BE GOING ANYWHERE ONLY HAVE MORE TREATS.

THERE ARE ALSO MANY OTHER RACERS WHO FOLLOW THERE EXAMPLE.

I MYSELF WENT OUT OF RACING BECAUSE I HAD 3 EX RACERS WHO LIVED TO RIPE OLD AGES .

 

[rob67]

Speaking as someone who has had their bitch lined, I have to agree that when I read all the threads about other litters due then I registered the amount there was. But as I have people waiting for Daisy's pups, and would of course include myself in that list, I don't see the difficulty in the number of litters around as long as people, like myself have done a bit of market research and thought about the consequences, which I'm sure they have.

As whippets make fab pets, I dont see a problem. You can't tell the difference between a racing whippet and a pet whippet, just one lives in the house, eats everything in sight it can find, picks holes in it's bedding ( or your duvet) and distributes it evenly everywhere and the other does all of the same but goes barmy for a flapping plastic bag!!

chris

 

[~Annie~]

Sticks head above parapet ...

Clair, I share your concerns about puppy numbers, ped and non ped, across all breeds, relative to the number of available homes. Despite having bought a total of 4 ped whippets as pups myself I've also been involved with rescues on and off for years, doing home checks, fund raising, helping to sort last minute reprieves for dogs about to be euthanased etc. etc. and perhaps I've just been lucky, as my experience is obviously very limited geographically, but in all that time (over 25 years) I've encountered hardly any whippets and of the few I have seen most were KC registered. I may be proved wrong (although for the sake of any dogs involved I hope I won't be), but I've never thought of non ped whippets as having much of a problem in this regard. Or ped whippets either really to be honest, although I think the situation is beginning to change there as the breed becomes more popular. Just my impression you understand, others may have a different view. For myself, I recently got chucked off a rescue forum for defending the breeder of my latest pedigree whippet pup ... apparently in the view of some (and I'm not numbering any of the contributors to this thread among them) if you breed any puppy you are automatically adding to the numbers in need of rescue ... but when I asked the members of that rescue forum (many of them 'expert'/'professional' rescuers) for numbers re. whippets in rescue the best they could do were the whippet x's that are commonly picked up in the vicinity of traveller communities and the odd pedigree rehome after family breakdown and the like.

On a slightly different note I've only had whippets for 5 minutes (well just over 2 years, previously we had other breeds and x breed rescues) and have had so much fun with these versatile dogs doing agility, lure coursing, trying our hand in the show ring and even putting the lads through their paces at Gin Pit one day last winter where our oversized pedigree lads were warmly welcomed ... again just my experience but in person the whippet owners I have met, of whatever ilk - race, lurecourse, work or show - have with few exceptions been the kind of people who put their dogs before themselves and take their responsibilities very seriously.

Annie

 

[tinarpoole]

WHAT A LOVERLY POST ANNIE TELLING A FEW HOME TRUTHS AND VERIFYING MYSELF AND FELLOW NON PEDIGREE RACERS POINTS OF VIEW.BY THE WAY IM FAR FROM CRITICAL OF PEDIGREE RACERS LOVE THE WAY THEY ORGANISE EVENTS AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MADE VERY WELCOME.AFTER ALL WE ARE ALL WHIPPET RACERS OUR BREED IS JUST FASTER LOL LOL

 

[hellbound]

Sticks head above parapet ...
Clair, I share your concerns about puppy numbers, ped and non ped, across all breeds, relative to the number of available homes. Despite having bought a total of 4 ped whippets as pups myself I've also been involved with rescues on and off for years, doing home checks, fund raising, helping to sort last minute reprieves for dogs about to be euthanased etc. etc. and perhaps I've just been lucky, as my experience is obviously very limited geographically, but in all that time (over 25 years) I've encountered hardly any whippets and of the few I have seen most were KC registered. I may be proved wrong (although for the sake of any dogs involved I hope I won't be), but I've never thought of non ped whippets as having much of a problem in this regard. Or ped whippets either really to be honest, although I think the situation is beginning to change there as the breed becomes more popular. Just my impression you understand, others may have a different view. For myself, I recently got chucked off a rescue forum for defending the breeder of my latest pedigree whippet pup ... apparently in the view of some (and I'm not numbering any of the contributors to this thread among them) if you breed any puppy you are automatically adding to the numbers in need of rescue ... but when I asked the members of that rescue forum (many of them 'expert'/'professional' rescuers) for numbers re. whippets in rescue the best they could do were the whippet x's that are commonly picked up in the vicinity of traveller communities and the odd pedigree rehome after family breakdown and the like.

On a slightly different note I've only had whippets for 5 minutes (well just over 2 years, previously we had other breeds and x breed rescues) and have had so much fun with these versatile dogs doing agility, lure coursing, trying our hand in the show ring and even putting the lads through their paces at Gin Pit one day last winter where our oversized pedigree lads were warmly welcomed ... again just my experience but in person the whippet owners I have met, of whatever ilk - race, lurecourse, work or show - have with few exceptions been the kind of people who put their dogs before themselves and take their responsibilities very seriously.

Annie

think you have said everything, well put,

 

[peppermint lady]

WHAT A LOVERLY POST ANNIE TELLING A FEW HOME TRUTHS AND VERIFYING MYSELF AND FELLOW NON PEDIGREE RACERS POINTS OF VIEW.BY THE WAY IM FAR FROM CRITICAL OF PEDIGREE RACERS LOVE THE WAY THEY ORGANISE EVENTS AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MADE VERY WELCOME.AFTER ALL WE ARE ALL WHIPPET RACERS OUR BREED IS JUST FASTER LOL LOL

good post..and as for the last bit (w00t) dont we know it :lol: :lol:

:thumbsup:

 

[Judy]

Have removed some of the more insulting posts. Please try to stick to the rules.

 

[BlueNoise]

WHAT A LOVERLY POST ANNIE TELLING A FEW HOME TRUTHS AND VERIFYING MYSELF AND FELLOW NON PEDIGREE RACERS POINTS OF VIEW.BY THE WAY IM FAR FROM CRITICAL OF PEDIGREE RACERS LOVE THE WAY THEY ORGANISE EVENTS AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MADE VERY WELCOME.AFTER ALL WE ARE ALL WHIPPET RACERS OUR BREED IS JUST FASTER LOL LOL

good post..and as for the last bit (w00t) dont we know it :lol: :lol:

:thumbsup:

We do Julie

 

[mutley]

theres alot less non ped whippets about than there was 20 year ago infact not even that far back ,i have had 2 bitches mated and they will be going to good homes of my choice.. it was a silly thing to bring into non ped topic as they are loved and looked after with a pasion.

 

[wild whippies]

Sticks head above parapet ...
Clair, I share your concerns about puppy numbers, ped and non ped, across all breeds, relative to the number of available homes. Despite having bought a total of 4 ped whippets as pups myself I've also been involved with rescues on and off for years, doing home checks, fund raising, helping to sort last minute reprieves for dogs about to be euthanased etc. etc. and perhaps I've just been lucky, as my experience is obviously very limited geographically, but in all that time (over 25 years) I've encountered hardly any whippets and of the few I have seen most were KC registered. I may be proved wrong (although for the sake of any dogs involved I hope I won't be), but I've never thought of non ped whippets as having much of a problem in this regard. Or ped whippets either really to be honest, although I think the situation is beginning to change there as the breed becomes more popular. Just my impression you understand, others may have a different view. For myself, I recently got chucked off a rescue forum for defending the breeder of my latest pedigree whippet pup ... apparently in the view of some (and I'm not numbering any of the contributors to this thread among them) if you breed any puppy you are automatically adding to the numbers in need of rescue ... but when I asked the members of that rescue forum (many of them 'expert'/'professional' rescuers) for numbers re. whippets in rescue the best they could do were the whippet x's that are commonly picked up in the vicinity of traveller communities and the odd pedigree rehome after family breakdown and the like.

On a slightly different note I've only had whippets for 5 minutes (well just over 2 years, previously we had other breeds and x breed rescues) and have had so much fun with these versatile dogs doing agility, lure coursing, trying our hand in the show ring and even putting the lads through their paces at Gin Pit one day last winter where our oversized pedigree lads were warmly welcomed ... again just my experience but in person the whippet owners I have met, of whatever ilk - race, lurecourse, work or show - have with few exceptions been the kind of people who put their dogs before themselves and take their responsibilities very seriously.

Annie

Excellent post Annie, shame wednesdays clashes for you but would love to see you and your gang at our club again soon.