Breeding Black And Blue Dogs

[peppermint lady]

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NO IM NOT BREEDING but just a matter of interest, if you put a black and a blue together what colours could you get?? :unsure: :wacko:

or would you only get blacks and blues??

 

[controversial]

millie and pheobes sires where black and blue and they only got black and blue out of 3 litters.

 

[beaker]

really depends on what else they are likely to carry colour and pattern wise and if the black is dominant black...

i put black to blue and got 2 black 2 brindle and 1 blue .. both sire and dam had one brindle parent :thumbsup:

you can still get surprises though, thats half the fun

 

[Judy]

You could in theory get anything as black is dominant in whippets and blue is just a dilution of black so both parents could be carrying more recessive genes. If any of the puppies got the recessive genes from both parents then they could be brindle or fawn (or parti's) depending on what genes the black/blue parents were masking. If you knew the colours of the grandparents then you could take a better guess at what you could get or possibly say what you could not get.

 

[lovemelovemydog]

:* All are BEAUTIES - Made me feel all 'wobbly' inside x

 

[Mini Me]

You... possibly say what you could not get.

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???????????????? Really!

 

[peppermint lady]

thanks for replies so far :thumbsup:

on one side mum is black dad is brindle

other side dad is black and mum is brindle/parti

answers on a post card (w00t)

 

[Judy]

I reckon you could get anything from that

 

[Judy]

You... possibly say what you could not get.

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???????????????? Really!

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Yes, under the right circumstances - for instance If you mated a black dog that had one black parent and one fawn parent, to a fawn bitch or to a bitch that also had one black parent and one fawn parent, then you could not get brindle. This is assuming we are talking about whippets.

There is a very good web site Here

 

[Mini Me]

You... possibly say what you could not get.

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???????????????? Really!

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Yes, under the right circumstances - for instance If you mated a black dog that had one black parent and one fawn parent, to a fawn bitch or to a bitch that also had one black parent and one fawn parent, then you could not get brindle. This is assuming we are talking about whippets.

There is a very good web site Here

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Not sure I go with that to be honest.

As an example, a recessive gene can crop up anywhere. 15 years ago, there was no such thing as an albino boa constrictor. Then, one was found in the wild! This animal was mated to several females and there offspring then obviously carried the gene. There are now hundreds, perhaps thousands of these animals all over the world. From a single animal, it was possible to produce albinos in there thousands. I know of people who have normal looking parents that have produced albino, snow, creamsicle, boas.

Throw backs have occured to these animals in many shapes and sizes. I would never underestimate the possibilities that may occur if two animals with recessive genes of the same type got together. These genes can and do lay hidden for generations.

 

[Judy]

Yes quite right, but the point is whilst recessive genes can remain hidden and be masked by dominant genes, dominant ones can't be hidden by recessive ones so, given enough information, you can sometimes know what you can't get.

 

[BeeJay]

millie and pheobes sires where black and blue and they only got black and blue  out of  3 litters.

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Their maternal grandparents were my black dog (from black x blue brindle) and Dill black bitch (from brindle x black & white). Twinkle's 6 siblings were 2 brindles and 4 blacks.

The sire Boy Delight of Vanya is of course Sooty Sam x Rabbit Runner and that line seems to produce a lot of black and blue pups, in fact I don't have any pups from him that aren't blue or black despite the colour of the bitch. I suspect if Twinkle had been mated to a black or blue dog NOT from the Sooty Sam line then she would have produced other colours. Dill her granddam was subsequentially mated to a blue dog she always threw blacks and brindles.

 

[sparky]

my two produced.

 

[sparky]

mt two produced..

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