Breeding

[Terry & Sheila Smith]

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To add to the problem of racing show bred dogs they are mostly heavy so are run off the back of much faster dogs or they are too heavy to race at all.

Run 'em off time. Our club does & the faster peds are competitive with non-peds who are up to a sec. faster. The slower ones can always race amongst themselves.

Height & weight issues are a source of pride to ped racers but are in fact holding the breed/type back. It amuses me to see the concern testes issues are raising now. Those who muttered about it 15-20 yrs ago were laughed at & told "you have to go for the speed". Now theres suddenly a problem, can't be duff breeding must be global warming.

Terry Smith

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

Until ALL clubs start to handicap based on ability and NOT on speed then what person in their right minds is going to risk buying in a potentially really slow dog (male) to race it.

As a member of a club that does time handicapping (with advance and retard) I feel Barb is spot on here. Not only could this potentially widen your gene pool, I think it would increase your club members, encourage and retain newcomers and give the dogs a better sense of well being (I don't think it's just owners that loose heart if they loose every week)

The other matter is you need these slower dogs in your clubs to help train your youngsters, I actually feel quite proud that because my peds have always been perfect dogs for training others, they've enabled all our clubs' non-ped whippets be cleared for racing. TBH if the club didn't have the format that it does I would have given up the whole idea of racing. :- "

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Must have been posting at the same time 'retard' (w00t) is that another word for slow :lol:

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what a hideous word!

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It is when used by the ignorant, but Jac didnt mean it in that way Kaz

retard  Pronunciation[ri-tahrd, for 1–3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–verb (used with object) 1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede. 

–verb (used without object) 2. to be delayed.

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Thanks Jac :thumbsup:

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no i know that...sorry...it was just a general comment :b :huggles:

 

[~elizabeth~]

Incidentally I was fairly saddened when the racing bred dogs proved to be 'better' at hill sprinting than the coursing lines.  I was hoping that over the longer distance the coursing blood would win out.

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Some coursing lines seem to have been including more show blood recently. Also, my impression is that some of the coursing dogs just weren't as fit as the (superfit) racers :unsure:

I was hoping for a half-brother of mine from a racing bitch, but the event has fallen through a couple of times now, probably for the reasons already mentioned.

 

[*Lesley*]

To be honest watching mine race every week and belt round the woods I think on stamina my show breds would be as determined as my coursing bred they all like some distance as for fitness(not speed) they would all hold their own against any racer, I'm not knocking racers but just because they are fast doesnt necessarily make them superfit :thumbsup:

 

[~elizabeth~]

I'm not knocking racers but just because they are fast doesnt necessarily make them superfit :thumbsup:

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I was talking about the last couple of drag-coursing events, not making a general comment :wacko:

Gelert ran against two 24-6 lb RCHs of the same age at the Bicester track last year; he was several lengths ahead at the 200 yrd point, but finished 3 and 1 length respectively behind them over the full 450 yrds, not what I would have expected, and they were fit dogs. :thumbsup:

 

[*Lesley*]

I'm not knocking racers but just because they are fast doesnt necessarily make them superfit :thumbsup:

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I was talking about the last couple of drag-coursing events, not making a general comment :wacko:

Gelert ran against two 24-6 lb RCHs of the same age at the Bicester track last year; he was several lengths ahead at the 200 yrd point, but finished 3 and 1 length respectively behind them over the full 450 yrds, not what I would have expected, and they were fit dogs. :thumbsup:

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I was making a general comment Liz, not having a go at you :huggles: meaning that no matter what the breeding it all depends on the individual dog if you know what I mean, in that show breds are'nt renowned for stamina but my girls would keep going for ever I think if they had to just down to pure determination, and in that racers tend to be fast from the off but not bred for the long haul, I love all whips no matter what there breeding but sometimes they surprise us don't they :wub:

 

[~elizabeth~]

I was making a general comment Liz, not having a go at you  :huggles: meaning that no matter what the breeding it all depends on the individual dog if you know what I mean, in that show breds are'nt renowned for stamina but my girls would keep going for ever I think if they had to just down to pure determination

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I wouldn't disagree, Ch. Chyton Copy-Press and Ch. Welstar Red Robin were both coursing winners and figure in the peds of quite a lot of current coursers (Guto has the former in his ped, and another choice I was considering had the latter a couple of times).