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[Joanna]

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We should not allow the situation to be a 'fait accompli'. :teehee:

How could this be achieved Rob?

If you look at the response of Sundance, you will see the problem. I have one of each as I have said. My show bred is a token racer, he does it because he loves it. He helps school pups, but on the track he is so slow despite the fitness training and weight loss. I haven't lost faith, I keep at it as he has a great time, but he is never going to be open standard (unless it is by luck and a poor turn-out and non-runners :thumbsup: )

Happy Christmas to you all any-way and if any-one can find the formula for the all rounder they are a pretty special person :thumbsup:

 

[Terry & Sheila Smith]

I think the show and racing whippets have already become very different in shape. We occasionally get newcomers turn up at Andover with show bred whippets. They almost look like a different breed.

The dogs from WINNING Show lines are a very different shape. There are some terrible toplines & most have too much angulation. However there are lines that as Rob Rixon says that don't look any different from racers apart from bulk. We have an all show bred who has picked up 2 or 3 rosette's in lurcher classes at least one of them with a good sized entry. Same dog could do 9.4 mark consistently over 150 on any going. There was a little dog some years ago who was also all show bred whose name was (I think) "No Luck for Lucca". I saw him shown at the hound show in '99 or 2000. He looked for all the world like a non-ped very straight on the stifle & flat backed. I would have loved to see him run. He too was all show bred. If we sit back & accept that there are 2 divergent types they will continue to diverge even further.

Terry Smith

 

[Terry & Sheila Smith]

We should not allow the situation to be a 'fait accompli'. :teehee:

How could this be achieved Rob?

Time & patience mainly though lot's of free time & a good income would be a big factor.

Perhaps more race people attending judging seminars & getting into positions where they can throw out the overdone specimens that get put up.

People with the patience to breed a litter & not expect them to be race or show winners but see them as a step towards an integrated type further along the line.

Every blood line in every breed is a result of trial & error.

Of course this won't do for 90% of dog people who want a champion & want one asap.

Terry Smith

 

[Liz Third]

I have been really interested to read the comments in this thread. I know that the ideal of a "dual champion" is extremely pie in the sky, but I was really trying to bridge the gap slightly by introducing a lesser qualification in the other field before a show or racing Champion gains its full title,as in gundogs. I know all too well it is not practical to keep a dog in top condition for both types of competition at the same time, but surely it would be worth a few months conditioning and schooling to get a dog up to scratch in the other discipline once it had gained its championship in his owners first choice? Think how proud one would be to show off the dog who has acheived this award!