Collecting Puppy At 6 Weeks Old

[eve]

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Its no different to 'rescuing' and paying for a dog/pup etc off one of 'those' websites where they advertise them as 'ideal mothers' and 'ready for mating'

It is different, these bitches are already absused and are being sold for more abuse.

Sorry, but I disagreee

Bad breeders selling pups may add to this misery but the majority of KC puppies do go to loving family homes. After all, if you think about it, as well as paying out in excess of £400 and these rogues would have to wait at least a year or more before a bitch pup will produce puppies.

Buying from people who are only 'in it for the money' just supports the trade in abused dogs and it is time the Kennel Club took their heads out of the clouds and took a leading action in curbing the behaviour of unscrupulous breeders by enforcing much stricter rules on the number of litters a bitch can have registered in her lifetime, how frequently she is bred from and a minimum age at which puppies can be sold.

Insisting that pups have their first vaccination before leaving Mum or the breeder would probably be the easiest way to enforce this.

 

[bertha]

I am not sure but it may be illegal to sell a puppy at 6 weeks old. Poor little things. It all sounds very iffy, I would demand my deposit back and walk away. Report the breeder to the dog warden and the RSPCA. She has not reared them as she said she would so really has broken her contract with you.

What ever you decide. good luck :luck: :luck:

 

[Happy Humber]

I thought it was now illegal to sell a puppy before 8 weeks of age under the welfare regulations that came out a couple of years back.

Many years ago I had a pup at 6 weeks wich seemed to be the norm back then and she was a great little dog

 

[~Annie~]

Its no different to 'rescuing' and paying for a dog/pup etc off one of 'those' websites where they advertise them as 'ideal mothers' and 'ready for mating'

It is different, these bitches are already absused and are being sold for more abuse.

Sorry, but I disagreee

Bad breeders selling pups may add to this misery but the majority of KC puppies do go to loving family homes. After all, if you think about it, as well as paying out in excess of £400 and these rogues would have to wait at least a year or more before a bitch pup will produce puppies.

Buying from people who are only 'in it for the money' just supports the trade in abused dogs and it is time the Kennel Club took their heads out of the clouds and took a leading action in curbing the behaviour of unscrupulous breeders by enforcing much stricter rules on the number of litters a bitch can have registered in her lifetime, how frequently she is bred from and a minimum age at which puppies can be sold.

Insisting that pups have their first vaccination before leaving Mum or the breeder would probably be the easiest way to enforce this.

I have to disagree with you on this. There is and should not be a legal requirement to vaccinate a dog, let alone to vaccinate at a very young age. There is no legal requirement to have our children vaccinated and nor would we wish there to be, well those of us concerned about the erosion of individual civil rights and personal responsibility certainly don't. Of course it makes sense to have your dog vaccinated but many prefer to wait until the dog is well past the age at which it would normally be rehomed to have it vaccinated.

 

[~Annie~]

I thought it was now illegal to sell a puppy before 8 weeks of age under the welfare regulations that came out a couple of years back.
Many years ago I had a pup at 6 weeks wich seemed to be the norm back then and she was a great little dog

The Animal Welfare Act only legislated with regard to sales of animals to persons under 16, not the age of the animal at sale.

 

[Seraphina]

Our KC has a code of practice, which we all suppose to uphold; it states that pups must not go to new homes before they are 8 weeks old, and must have all vaccinations up to date. The vaccination protocol is:

6-8 weeks old C3 vaccine (vs Distemper, Hepatitis & Parvovirus)

12 weeks old C3 and C2 vaccine = C5 (C3+ Canine/Kennel Cough protection -> Parainfluenza virus & Bordetella spp + coronavirus / Leptospirosis)

16 weeks old C5

Annually C5 vaccine

Although, some people now drop the 16 weeks booster, and vaccinate only every few years. Some only do the 12 weeks and never give any boosters.

So if you sell 8 weeks old puppy it has to have its first shot. people who do not follow the code of practice can be suspended.

Maybe a call to your KC to find out if they have anything to prevent this breeder selling pups so young. I do not think the RSPCA would consider 6 weeks too young - not young enough for them to have grounds for taking action against her.

It is easy to say: just walk away. Walking away will not punish the breeder, on the contrary, she will keep the 200pounds and sell the pup again. If she is in it for the money it is very unlikely she will voluntarily refund. And even if the OP does not care about losing the money, it would really grate on me that the breeder will end up making even bigger profit.

 

[Jewel]

Thankyou everyone for taking the time to give advice.

I have spoken to the breeder and she has agreed to keep my little lady till she is 8 weeks. At least two of her siblings will be there with her till then so she will have company and get to spend that extra time with them and her mum. She did say she normally lets her puppies go gradually between 6-7 weeks so its not such a shock to the mum when they leave. I just can't not have her now, I know its pathetic but I am willing to put in any extra work she needs and I do have the funds available if everything doesnt go to plan. She will be very much loved and will get everything she needs no matter what. Like some others have said I would always be wondering what happened to her and feel as though I let her down if I didn't have her.

I will post piccies as soon as she arrives and keep you updated on her progress.

Thank you so much everyone for your help :thumbsup:

 

[JAX]

Its no different to 'rescuing' and paying for a dog/pup etc off one of 'those' websites where they advertise them as 'ideal mothers' and 'ready for mating'

It is different, these bitches are already absused and are being sold for more abuse.

Sorry, but I disagreee

Bad breeders selling pups may add to this misery but the majority of KC puppies do go to loving family homes. After all, if you think about it, as well as paying out in excess of £400 and these rogues would have to wait at least a year or more before a bitch pup will produce puppies.

Buying from people who are only 'in it for the money' just supports the trade in abused dogs and it is time the Kennel Club took their heads out of the clouds and took a leading action in curbing the behaviour of unscrupulous breeders by enforcing much stricter rules on the number of litters a bitch can have registered in her lifetime, how frequently she is bred from and a minimum age at which puppies can be sold.Insisting that pups have their first vaccination before leaving Mum or the breeder would probably be the easiest way to enforce this.

This would make the breeders not register the pups at all /and just do a made up pedigree which alot of folk think are the `papers` anyhow .

How many people who buy a pedigree pup only want it as a pet so arnt bothered about KC reg ? Id say 75% of my buyers for sure , and by the looks of things alot of them dont bother to transfer the registraion into their names and it looks like ive dozens of whippets still in my name :wacko:

Good luck with your pup ,Jewel , shame you didnt take me up on my offer to help sus out breeder

 

[FeeFee]

Good luck with her Jewel, it sounds as though she will be very lucky to be coming to you :luck:

 

[maggiemay2]

im really pleased to hear you're still having the pup and you've spoken with the breeder Good luck with her and i'm dying to see her :sweating:

:luck: :luck: :luck: :luck: :luck:

 

[Seraphina]

Buying from people who are only 'in it for the money' just supports the trade in abused dogs and it is time the Kennel Club took their heads out of the clouds and took a leading action in curbing the behaviour of unscrupulous breeders by enforcing much stricter rules on the number of litters a bitch can have registered in her lifetime, how frequently she is bred from and a minimum age at which puppies can be sold.Insisting that pups have their first vaccination before leaving Mum or the breeder would probably be the easiest way to enforce this.

This would make the breeders not register the pups at all /and just do a made up pedigree which alot of folk think are the `papers` anyhow .

How many people who buy a pedigree pup only want it as a pet so arnt bothered about KC reg ? Id say 75% of my buyers for sure , and by the looks of things alot of them dont bother to transfer the registraion into their names and it looks like ive dozens of whippets still in my name :wacko:

Yes, that is true, but there are ways to educate public. For instance, in one stage our club ran ads in papers (long time before internet) in Pet section saying; "are you looking for purebred dog? Contact the breed club for list of registered breeders. Phone..........."

People, do not care about the papers, they do not mean anything to therm, but they do care if they are getting healthy well reared pup; buying one with KC papers should offer them some guarantees.

 

[jinnyfizz]

I've just read through the latest on this thread and I only have one take on this .......... thank goodness this little pup is going to a home where she will be loved and cared for well for the rest of her natural life :wub:

I hear what is said about the "don't buy from dodgy breeders because they will keep breeding" but, in reality and very sadly, this will happen regardless of whether the minority stop buying or not

It's about the puppy. She is in this world and deserves to be treated just as well as a puppy who has been bred from top blood lines with the ultimate in care and attention.

Good luck with your little girl, Jewel :luck: Love her and cherish her and she will be the best whippet in the world for you :thumbsup: xxx

........... looking forward to seeing the pictures

 

[eve]

I am delighted that you have managed to persuade the breeder to keep your little girl untill she is 8 weeks.

In addition, the extra weeks should enable you to have the insurance policy of your choice.

It sounds like she is going to have the most fantastic loving caring home with you.

Have you decided on a name yet?

Looking forward to seeing photos in a couple of weeks time. :luck: :luck:

 

[Dizzychick]

Hi Jewel

Just wanted to wish you all the best with your little girl. I bet you can't wait to get her home now and give her lots of love. Looking foward to seeing pics.

xxx

 

[T Hoare]

Annie , it's the equivalent of having your thumb removed and should always be done by a vet :blink:

I know this is going back a little on this thread but an experienced breeder would potentially have de dewclawed alot more pups than some vets. My mother has always done our pups & has been experienced in this practice for 50 years...longer than some vets have been alive!!

 

[oakmoorehill]

Annie , it's the equivalent of having your thumb removed and should always be done by a vet :blink:

I know this is going back a little on this thread but an experienced breeder would potentially have de dewclawed alot more pups than some vets. My mother has always done our pups & has been experienced in this practice for 50 years...longer than some vets have been alive!!

The last litter of pups we had were de dewclawed at the vets. My vet was ill in hospital at the time so they were done by the locum. He admitted he had never even seen whippet pups so young never mind done their claws. Needless to say although a lot of the pups were ok some had dew claws grow back. Simba had to go back in to have a dew claw removed after it grew back and he kept catching it.

 

[JAX]

Id never let a vet do mine , they wouldnt have a clue , see last post , (w00t) I dont think they can `grow back` they just wernt done proberley in the first place

I dont do mine myself but someone in whippets 50+ years . no blood , no screaming except when taken away from mum for 3 seconds

 

[oakmoorehill]

Id never let a vet do mine , they wouldnt have a clue , see last post , (w00t) I dont think they can `grow back` they just wernt done proberley in the first place
I dont do mine myself but someone in whippets 50+ years . no blood , no screaming except when taken away from mum for 3 seconds

They do grow back Simba had a proper claw growing out of his leg but not pad. When they were taken off I looked at them all and there was no clue that they were not done properly. They all looked the same Amber's never came back. The only thing we can think is that he didn't quite take the claw out completely.

I will also point out that out of 4 litters 3 have been done by my vet and we have had no problem at all it was only the litter that the locum did. The vet has since sacked the locum not just because of my pup but because other people also complained about him. My vet removed the dew claw free off charge when Simba was a little older.