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[Doreen Hopkins]

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It makes you stop and think when you so often hear committee members be it either club, national, or regional, constantly being put down because other people think they can do a better job, but more often than not those that do the most critising never put themselves forward to be in the firing line.

Most times a committee member gives up a lot of their time and sometimes their own money to help organise whatever racing they are involved in. Paper,Folders,Pens, telephone calls more often than not are not claimed for by the people doing the admin; etc. Most committee members do the job because they enjoy it, but also because sometimes it is the only way club/national members are able to have racing provided.

So please next time you attend a race meeting give a thought to how much work has gone on in the background to provide a good days racing, whether it be at your local club or at an open.

Doreen

 

[John Marsden]

It makes you stop and think when you so often hear committee members be it either club, national, or regional, constantly being put down because other people think they can do a better job, but more often than not those that do the most critising never put themselves forward to be in the firing line.
Most times a committee member gives up a lot of their time and sometimes their own money to help organise whatever racing they are involved in. Paper,Folders,Pens, telephone calls more often than not are not claimed for by the people doing the admin; etc. Most committee members do the job because they enjoy it, but also because sometimes it is the only way club/national members are able to have racing provided.

So please next time you attend a race meeting give a thought to how much work has gone on in the background to provide a good days racing, whether it be at your local club or at an open.

Doreen

well said Doreen never a truer word spoken appreciation should be given not critism

fiona

 

[ahorsnall]

well said always the same 1st to moan last to do any work :thumbsup:

 

[Kath]

Well said Doreen, we would all be up the creek without a paddle if these people did not work so very hard for the benefit of all of us.

 

[Trojan]

It makes you stop and think when you so often hear committee members be it either club, national, or regional, constantly being put down because other people think they can do a better job, but more often than not those that do the most critising never put themselves forward to be in the firing line.
Most times a committee member gives up a lot of their time and sometimes their own money to help organise whatever racing they are involved in. Paper,Folders,Pens, telephone calls more often than not are not claimed for by the people doing the admin; etc. Most committee members do the job because they enjoy it, but also because sometimes it is the only way club/national members are able to have racing provided.

So please next time you attend a race meeting give a thought to how much work has gone on in the background to provide a good days racing, whether it be at your local club or at an open.

Doreen

Couldn't have said it any better Doreen :thumbsup:

 

[les windle]

well said always the same 1st to moan last to do any work :thumbsup:

I could'nt agree more , and well said Doreen

 

[bigjohnstudd]

lack of support,lack of workers hmm maybe stop banning the members then

 

[DavidH]

It makes you stop and think when you so often hear committee members be it either club, national, or regional, constantly being put down because other people think they can do a better job, but more often than not those that do the most critising never put themselves forward to be in the firing line.
Most times a committee member gives up a lot of their time and sometimes their own money to help organise whatever racing they are involved in. Paper,Folders,Pens, telephone calls more often than not are not claimed for by the people doing the admin; etc. Most committee members do the job because they enjoy it, but also because sometimes it is the only way club/national members are able to have racing provided.

So please next time you attend a race meeting give a thought to how much work has gone on in the background to provide a good days racing, whether it be at your local club or at an open.

Doreen

couldnt agree more.plenty criticize but will not get in the shafts :thumbsup:

 

[Vicky]

I presume this topic is referring to the results of the Mid West Open.

It takes people from both sides of the fence to make an open; the organisers & the attendees. From a successful open you'd expect both parties to go home feeling satisfied.

Fact is if people are in this game for the gratitude from others then they're in the wrong sport. What you constantly see in this hobby is people taking constructive criticism the wrong way and making out it's personal. If we held an open and offered no prizes then we'd fully expect to be getting some grief (regardless of how long preparation it'd taken).

We are well aware of how much work goes on behind the scenes with regards to holding an open however i still think that Lyndon & Ray have a very valid point.

There should be more of an appeal to a Top Ten Open other than just the points and if Clubs / Regions are to be allocated Top Ten Points then maybe there should be some guarantee from the organisers that it will be worthwhile people travelling. Factors i think should be met for a Top Ten Open:

* Trophies/Prizes to all Supremes

* Minimum 90% payout

* A fully fenced off track with no less than 50yds run off (to compromise on these is imo a welfare issue)

* At least two runs for your money at a one day event

Our opens in the North West are always poorly attended but if we decreased the prizes then i would expect an even smaller turnout the following year. It is not hard to send a mass email to pet suppliers asking for sponsorship and as with most clubs there's generally a lot of people willing to donate trophies/presentation jackets.

A little trophy or some added prizemoney goes a long way and i don't think people realise how important it is to some people, particularly if it's their first win or they're newcomers to the sport.

 

[Paws123]

Just popped on to answer this topic but Vicky beat me to it ..agree with everything she said..but would like to add

If you are on any committee and have to arrange opens ,venues etc you should do for the right reasons , because you want to do it, it shouldn't be a chore of any kind

As for trophies for opens ive seen so many a disappointed faces when trophy's have not been returned ..how ever ive taken trophy's out of our own to donate as ive also seen so many other people donate too

Maybe instead of not having trophy's for opens ask for help , explain the clubs circumstances sure you'll be more than surprised at people helping ..same as people helping out at opens just ask and many ive found jump at the chance to help

Theres nothing more rewarding than running a opens where everyone enjoyed the day

 

[Doreen Hopkins]

Just popped on to answer this topic but Vicky beat me to it ..agree with everything she said..but would like to addIf you are on any committee and have to arrange opens ,venues etc you should do for the right reasons , because you want to do it, it shouldn't be a chore of any kind

As for trophies for opens ive seen so many a disappointed faces when trophy's have not been returned ..how ever ive taken trophy's out of our own to donate as ive also seen so many other people donate too

Maybe instead of not having trophy's for opens ask for help , explain the clubs circumstances sure you'll be more than surprised at people helping ..same as people helping out at opens just ask and many ive found jump at the chance to help

Theres nothing more rewarding than running a opens where everyone enjoyed the day

Hi Denise

when I posted this topic it wasn't about needing help to run the event on the day we were ok on Sunday for that.

I just felt sorry for Amanda and the rest of the Mid-West committee as they seemed to be taking the brunt of the critisism about trophies, but what do you do if there are no funds. Perhaps as you say members could donate trophies that they no longer want, but you still have the situation do you want them returned each year or do owners keep them, then the following year the region needs to have more trophies donated. If I win the lottery I'll sponsor the Mid-West for the next decade ( lol )

regards

Doreen

 

[Paws123]

Seems your regional is in a no win situation then ..best we all get our pray mats out for you to win the lotto lol

Maybe when regions only have a small membership more support can be given..

 

[sherry]

@ wallsend we have returnable trophies for all supreme winners. i did notice on the pics that some winners seemed to get trophies?? dont know if im right on that like?? i get the pee took out of me as i make winners get their pics taken then i make them sign 4 the trophy theyve won, some say il b asking for DNA next but i take it all in the way its intended as fun. (w00t) also if people dont want to take the trophy 4 wotever reason (they mite break it/lose it) i still get them to sign then if myself or a commitee member take it i write that in my book too. all of vickys ideas on her post seem like good ones to me. :thumbsup:

i also know that sometimes the committe get no thanks (being on one myself)

so wot i wud suggest is if there are no trophies etc then maybe ask for donations and people if u want to help out @ an open in anyway then offer its always very much appreciated. :thumbsup:

 

[Doreen Hopkins]

@ wallsend we have returnable trophies for all supreme winners. i did notice on the pics that some winners seemed to get trophies?? dont know if im right on that like?? i get the pee took out of me as i make winners get their pics taken then i make them sign 4 the trophy theyve won, some say il b asking for DNA next but i take it all in the way its intended as fun. (w00t) also if people dont want to take the trophy 4 wotever reason (they mite break it/lose it) i still get them to sign then if myself or a commitee member take it i write that in my book too. all of vickys ideas on her post seem like good ones to me. :thumbsup: i also know that sometimes the committe get no thanks (being on one myself)

so wot i wud suggest is if there are no trophies etc then maybe ask for donations and people if u want to help out @ an open in anyway then offer its always very much appreciated. :thumbsup:

Hi Carole

my post wasn't about committee members getting thanks for what they do, as I said before most committee members do it because they enjoy the sport, my point was that a regional secretary should not be made to feel responsible if the region can not afford to buy trophies if the funds are not in the pot. Where do you draw the line in asking members to keep putting their hands in their pocket. Dee's idea seems to be the logical solution, for members to donate unwanted trophies, and then as you said get owners to sign for them in the hope that they will be returned. Amanda our regional secretary works very hard for the region as do all the other regional secretaries so she should have the support of her regional members.

regards

Doreen

 

[sherry]

@ wallsend we have returnable trophies for all supreme winners. i did notice on the pics that some winners seemed to get trophies?? dont know if im right on that like?? i get the pee took out of me as i make winners get their pics taken then i make them sign 4 the trophy theyve won, some say il b asking for DNA next but i take it all in the way its intended as fun. (w00t) also if people dont want to take the trophy 4 wotever reason (they mite break it/lose it) i still get them to sign then if myself or a commitee member take it i write that in my book too. all of vickys ideas on her post seem like good ones to me. :thumbsup: i also know that sometimes the committe get no thanks (being on one myself)

so wot i wud suggest is if there are no trophies etc then maybe ask for donations and people if u want to help out @ an open in anyway then offer its always very much appreciated. :thumbsup:

Hi Carole

my post wasn't about committee members getting thanks for what they do, as I said before most committee members do it because they enjoy the sport, my point was that a regional secretary should not be made to feel responsible if the region can not afford to buy trophies if the funds are not in the pot. Where do you draw the line in asking members to keep putting their hands in their pocket. Dee's idea seems to be the logical solution, for members to donate unwanted trophies, and then as you said get owners to sign for them in the hope that they will be returned. Amanda our regional secretary works very hard for the region as do all the other regional secretaries so she should have the support of her regional members.

regards

Doreen

hi doreen, sorry i didnt mean it like that, but on the trophy front like ive said b4 wot we do @ wallsend works, every supreme gets a returnable trophie which has been donated by members of our club. we only started doing this in the last 3 years i think. as there returnable u dont need to keep buying them each year, u just someone on the case who will keep track of them like me :thumbsup:

 

[milly]

I presume this topic is referring to the results of the Mid West Open.
It takes people from both sides of the fence to make an open; the organisers & the attendees. From a successful open you'd expect both parties to go home feeling satisfied.

Fact is if people are in this game for the gratitude from others then they're in the wrong sport. What you constantly see in this hobby is people taking constructive criticism the wrong way and making out it's personal. If we held an open and offered no prizes then we'd fully expect to be getting some grief (regardless of how long preparation it'd taken).

We are well aware of how much work goes on behind the scenes with regards to holding an open however i still think that Lyndon & Ray have a very valid point.

There should be more of an appeal to a Top Ten Open other than just the points and if Clubs / Regions are to be allocated Top Ten Points then maybe there should be some guarantee from the organisers that it will be worthwhile people travelling. Factors i think should be met for a Top Ten Open:

* Trophies/Prizes to all Supremes

* Minimum 90% payout

* A fully fenced off track with no less than 50yds run off (to compromise on these is imo a welfare issue)

* At least two runs for your money at a one day event

Our opens in the North West are always poorly attended but if we decreased the prizes then i would expect an even smaller turnout the following year. It is not hard to send a mass email to pet suppliers asking for sponsorship and as with most clubs there's generally a lot of people willing to donate trophies/presentation jackets.

A little trophy or some added prizemoney goes a long way and i don't think people realise how important it is to some people, particularly if it's their first win or they're newcomers to the sport.

Bang on Vicky :thumbsup: