Cryptorchid

[Strike Whippets]

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at least then they will know the risks of a major op in the future with the pup, and how to massage the testies down to hopefully prevent the operation even happening.

Massage very rarely work's ..........

the recent issue of scrapie-testing sheep involves a similar test and guess what ...? Yep, all the worst affected sheep are the best, most valuable ones

Isn't that always the way

 

[»Tina«]

Hannah I'm sorry but I disagree with you on the massage bit, all the study I have been doing suggests that done from 8 weeks upwards it helps hugely, catching them to late rarely works though.

 

[Strike Whippets]

Hannah I'm sorry but I disagree with you on the massage bit, all the study I have been doing suggests that done from 8 weeks upwards it helps hugely, catching them to late rarely works though.

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I must have been doing it wrong then (w00t)

 

[»Tina«]

aww Hannah has one of your dog's got this trait too? so sorry to hear that, how old is he?

 

[kay75]

Hello, Im new to this but i thought i would say hello. There is so many things on this site i dont know what to do! I havent got a whippet yet, but i am looking for a local(ish) one to come avalible. We used to own whippets when i was younger and my dad used to race them,but our last one died about 10 years ago,since then we have had different sorts of dogs i now have a lovely border collie, but i really want a whippet aswell. )

 

[Strike Whippets]

He's four and a half, from a dad who him and his brothers had 2 .........as I said it's very difficult ..............but I have never had any behaviour or hormonal problem's with him or my other one (who again massage didn't work for :b ).........

 

[Strike Whippets]

Welcome to k9 Kay75

 

[»Tina«]

have you had him neutured? if you have at what age? if you haven't is he ok and do you get him checked out for cancer?

have you bred from them? if so how were the pup's?

sorry for all the Q's but I'm just trying to get as much infomation as I can on this trait Thanks :thumbsup:

 

[Strike Whippets]

Someone wanted to use him but a) he was to young, b) I would have been scared to death it might have changed him and his kind nature :b and c) after years of showing I know this is a fault so didn't really 100% agree with breeding from a dog with a fault :- " .....(must say that apart from this small hiccup he's flawless really :lol: :wub: ) ......I have also seen some lovely dog's with just the 1, that I'd find impossible to refuse a pup from .......I did get him done as the testical that went back up did start to cause some problems by pulling when he raced but he was 2 years old then and despite what people say it really is a very straight forward and quick op ..........My other one is again one from a dog with 2 etc ......(I must just attract them lol) but he's to young in my opinion at the mo to be done .......plus if the retained testical dosn't bother him I may leave it alone for a few more years ....but testicular cancer does worry me, so I would certainly keep an eye on things :thumbsup:

 

[»Tina«]

that's the age when I'm going to think long and hard about having Binx done, with him having 2 balls retained, I couldn't use him for breeding even if I wanted too as he'll be sterile, it doesn't stop him trying to hump Chance at the moment though :b (w00t)

but as long as he's healthy in every other way that's fine with me and will live the rest of his life here with me too, I couldn't imagine life without him now :wub: :thumbsup:

I'm glad your doggies are healthy too Thanks for answering my questions :huggles:

 

[»Tina«]

The points made earlier about identifying the gene and being able to test for it are good ones.  However, the recent issue of scrapie-testing sheep involves a similar test and guess what ...?  Yep, all the worst affected sheep are the best, most valuable ones  :teehee:

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That's a bit worrying :blink: :unsure:

 

[ILoveKettleChips]

Hannah I'm sorry but I disagree with you on the massage bit, all the study I have been doing suggests that done from 8 weeks upwards it helps hugely, catching them to late rarely works though.

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My only problem with this is that it masks the problem - if there's a genetic tendency for cryptorchidism, trying to make balls stay where they don't want to be is risking the dog being apparently normal and so ok to breed from ...

Personally although I don't know I do have doubts about whether it works ... if it did, the only benefit would be to that one individual dog in that the neutering op would be more straightforward.

 

[»Tina«]

Hannah I'm sorry but I disagree with you on the massage bit, all the study I have been doing suggests that done from 8 weeks upwards it helps hugely, catching them to late rarely works though.

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My only problem with this is that it masks the problem - if there's a genetic tendency for cryptorchidism, trying to make balls stay where they don't want to be is risking the dog being apparently normal and so ok to breed from ...

Personally although I don't know I do have doubts about whether it works ... if it did, the only benefit would be to that one individual dog in that the neutering op would be more straightforward.

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but ILKC it would be known that this dog has the gene trait and therefore wouldn't be bred from, (well I wouldn't) it would just mean an easier op (and the choice to operate or not) and much less risk from cancer thus a longer healthier life IMHO.

 

[~elizabeth~]

The points made earlier about identifying the gene and being able to test for it are good ones.  However, the recent issue of scrapie-testing sheep involves a similar test and guess what ...?  Yep, all the worst affected sheep are the best, most valuable ones  :teehee:

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That's a bit worrying :blink: :unsure:

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It's no great mystery, extreme line breeding may help fix certain characteristics which may deemed desirable, but achieves this by narrowing the genepool which may also fix these lines with a whole load of health problems. It's not just a question of not breeding from affected animals as the problems are probably recessive and can be freely passed on (possibly to a large number of offspring in the case of stud dogs) by individuals that do not suffer themselves.

 

[*Lesley*]

I don't know much about this with having all girls but if a dogs testicles went up because of a trauma then came back down again later would you still not breed from a dog which this had happened to(general not Binx) and would you still class it as a trait so to speak, I mean in the respect that it could happen to future offspring or would it be a one off because of the trauma probably to not happen again because that wouldn't be a breed fault would it just an unfortunate accident, just wondering as you never know I may get a boy in the future :- "

 

[»Tina«]

Hi Lesley,

bitches carry this trait too, so it's not just for owners of male dogs, I have asked my vet about a shock causing this and he said it's highly unlikely to happen, and that it was more likely to be a gene trait passed down,

Thanks to everyone who has relpyed on this post I've found the infomation very interesting :thumbsup: