Defining A Whippet

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ill put won post up,,,,as this really came about on lurcher section due to what happened at shane,s castle,,,and albert,,wants to get better info

kc whippets ,,,breed to type threw kc,,,21inch,,,or 21, 1/2 inch max

akc,,whippets breed to type,,but can be height off 22 1/2 inch ( pretty big),,,( both kc and akc can go over 32lb weight

bwra,,,breed mainly from north east england/midlands by the miners,,,as racers,,but keep their ancesrtory close,,,,but must be under 32lb,,,( which means 21inch to almost 22inch ),,,obove that weight there not class as whippet but scratch racer,s

french have used bwra whip,s in past to breed into,,,,working whippet tend to be off kc line,,but however when breeding worker to worker,,there could be greyhound infulance in breeding

pic iam away to show u is a bwra whippet,,,used for hunting,,,20inch max,,,but has worked since day dott,,,if she was to show up next year at a show,,,would she be made to run against 28inch lurchers,,,or would she be side tracked althou she is off whippet type,,,be thrown against the biguns cos the kc brigade have to much say on the matter,,,,,althou she comes from a breeding program,,,that has there own whippet clubs up and down the country,,and there own accociations run leanth off the country

this whippet to me is a worker,,,4/5 nights a week,,,,,i wouldnt say she was collie,,,or bull or sulki,,,,but might get turned away at lurcher event if kc have her way and made to run with the bigger lurcher class instead off whippet class,,,,,,( i think paris shouldnt hav ran with the lurchers that day , if there was a whippet class at show and presurred into not running with the whippet class as was martain with his,,,as she and he is a bwra WHIPPET,,the same as any other WORKING WHIPPET WITH NO PAPERS,,,,and to make diffrent classes just for no papers,,,just cost expence at lurcher events,,,,height retrection should be enough, when its when talked about that is is up to the irish guys,,,not the kc brigade,,

 

[devo12]

ill put won post up,,,,as this really came about on lurcher section due to what happened at shane,s castle,,,and albert,,wants to get better info
kc whippets ,,,breed to type threw kc,,,21inch,,,or 21, 1/2 inch max

akc,,whippets breed to type,,but can be height off 22 1/2 inch ( pretty big),,,( both kc and akc can go over 32lb weight

bwra,,,breed mainly from north east england/midlands by the miners,,,as racers,,but keep their ancesrtory close,,,,but must be under 32lb,,,( which means 21inch to almost 22inch ),,,obove that weight there not class as whippet but scratch racer,s

french have used bwra whip,s in past to breed into,,,,working whippet tend to be off kc line,,but however when breeding worker to worker,,there could be greyhound infulance in breeding

pic iam away to show u is a bwra whippet,,,used for hunting,,,20inch max,,,but has worked since day dott,,,if she was to show up next year at a show,,,would she be made to run against 28inch lurchers,,,or would she be side tracked althou she is off whippet type,,,be thrown against the biguns cos the kc brigade have to much say on the matter,,,,,althou she comes from a breeding program,,,that has there own whippet clubs up and down the country,,and there own accociations run leanth off the country

this whippet to me is a worker,,,4/5 nights a week,,,,,i wouldnt say she was collie,,,or bull or sulki,,,,but might get turned away at lurcher event if kc have her way and made to run with the bigger lurcher class instead off whippet class,,,,,,( i think paris shouldnt hav ran with the lurchers that day , if there was a whippet class at show and presurred into not running with the whippet class as was martain with his,,,as she and he is a bwra WHIPPET,,the same as any other WORKING WHIPPET WITH NO PAPERS,,,,and to make diffrent classes just for no papers,,,just cost expence at lurcher events,,,,height retrection should be enough, when its when talked about that is is up to the irish guys,,,not the kc brigade,,

You make about as much sense as my 3 year old :clown: you have obviously got a problem with the "KC brigade" its not about Reg v non reg it is making the competition fair and even do you think anyone is going to travel distance with expense to run at Ireland's premier dog racing event when it's cobbled together like a egg and spoon race

 

[Nellie]

ill put won post up,,,,as this really came about on lurcher section due to what happened at shane,s castle,,,and albert,,wants to get better info
kc whippets ,,,breed to type threw kc,,,21inch,,,or 21, 1/2 inch max

akc,,whippets breed to type,,but can be height off 22 1/2 inch ( pretty big),,,( both kc and akc can go over 32lb weight

bwra,,,breed mainly from north east england/midlands by the miners,,,as racers,,but keep their ancesrtory close,,,,but must be under 32lb,,,( which means 21inch to almost 22inch ),,,obove that weight there not class as whippet but scratch racer,s

french have used bwra whip,s in past to breed into,,,,working whippet tend to be off kc line,,but however when breeding worker to worker,,there could be greyhound infulance in breeding

pic iam away to show u is a bwra whippet,,,used for hunting,,,20inch max,,,but has worked since day dott,,,if she was to show up next year at a show,,,would she be made to run against 28inch lurchers,,,or would she be side tracked althou she is off whippet type,,,be thrown against the biguns cos the kc brigade have to much say on the matter,,,,,althou she comes from a breeding program,,,that has there own whippet clubs up and down the country,,and there own accociations run leanth off the country

this whippet to me is a worker,,,4/5 nights a week,,,,,i wouldnt say she was collie,,,or bull or sulki,,,,but might get turned away at lurcher event if kc have her way and made to run with the bigger lurcher class instead off whippet class,,,,,,( i think paris shouldnt hav ran with the lurchers that day , if there was a whippet class at show and presurred into not running with the whippet class as was martain with his,,,as she and he is a bwra WHIPPET,,the same as any other WORKING WHIPPET WITH NO PAPERS,,,,and to make diffrent classes just for no papers,,,just cost expence at lurcher events,,,,height retrection should be enough, when its when talked about that is is up to the irish guys,,,not the kc brigade,,

So where have you been to see these kc influenced lurcher shows?

 

[~REDWALL~]

CAN SOMEONE JST CLEAR SUMMING FOR ME

THE DOGS IN THE MASTER MCRATH FINAL ARE THEY

1 WORKING LURCHERS

2 OR ARE THEY JST RACEING LURCHERS . AND I SAY LURCHERS CAUSE THEY HAVE 3 OR MORE TYPE OF DOG IN THEM ..

3 OR THEY NON PEDS

 

[bertha]

CAN SOMEONE JST CLEAR SUMMING FOR ME
THE DOGS IN THE MASTER MCRATH FINAL ARE THEY

1 WORKING LURCHERS

2 OR ARE THEY JST RACEING LURCHERS . AND I SAY LURCHERS CAUSE THEY HAVE 3 OR MORE TYPE OF DOG IN THEM ..

3 OR THEY NON PEDS

That has nothing to do with the original poster's question. This is about whippets, not lurchers/non peds/ greyxwhippets etc.

As for whippeteer, you just make no sense at all. The KC didn't just decide to make a breed standard for the whippet to stop lurcher show. Just goes to show you don't know what you are talking about. (w00t)

 

[devo12]

CAN SOMEONE JST CLEAR SUMMING FOR ME
THE DOGS IN THE MASTER MCRATH FINAL ARE THEY

1 WORKING LURCHERS

2 OR ARE THEY JST RACEING LURCHERS . AND I SAY LURCHERS CAUSE THEY HAVE 3 OR MORE TYPE OF DOG IN THEM ..

3 OR THEY NON PEDS

why you shouting?? read the the subject "defining a whippet"

 

[mandyrfc]

Ok subject matter is that when defining a whippet then you must go by pure bred whippet not whippet cross anything else as it is a specific breed and the standard is there in place.

Now for Whippeteer you quite rightly point out that whippet crosses are FASTER than kc reg ( you won't get any argument there ) but this is because you introduce Greyhound into the breeding, this is why even the BWRA made it that you could only mate back to Greyhound every 5 generations because it was not a whippet anymore but in fact almost pure 18lb greyhound 22lb greyhound etc ( ie the Black dog in the picture which in my opinion is a stunning looking dog but not a Whippet ) this was true also at the other end of the weights and so they capped the weight at 55lb.

And as far as pedigree whippet racing goe's the weight groups run from N/e 16lb to a maximum of 32lbs and the height limit is 20 inches at the shoulder for a bitch and 21 inches at the shoulder for a dog.

It is true that if you breed greyhound into whippet you will get a faster dog but to do this and then say that you can expect to run against pure bred dogs, sorry its seeking an unfair advantage and therefore cheating.

If though you stick to running against similarily bred dogs then that is fine as both are bred to run faster.

And lastly the point you made about French pedigree's using non pedigree line's that is why you will never get a racing passport for the french dogs in British pedigree racing.

 

[Macha]

what do gamefairs and similar events in the UK do?

Can't compare this event with British ped and nonped clubs as those clubs usually meet weekly and can properly assess their dogs.

It is safest as well as fairest for dog to run with dogs around their own weight and roughly the same speed. I would like to see some sort of grading system done by time trial - that would matter more to me than whether a dog has papers - but I can see that it would be difficult to put this into practice especially for one-off annual events such as Shane's Castle

 

[Nellie]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

 

[AlbertJ]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

Nellie,

Sorry I haven't been back on the forum to corrrespond except to arrange a little sponsorship for a show run for a very worthy cause. I decided to take a few days off and enjoy training my own dogs!

The whippet debate does not have a lot to do with the Master McGrath which of course did generate a great deal of positive publicity for lurchers and will start again with the firsr heat being run at the Irish Game & Country Fair at Birr Castle on Saturday 27th August. Our definition of a lurcher for the Master Mc Grath is as it has always been any crossbred greyhound. We have taken the point that tightly bred 'racing lurcher' types have an advantage over other outcrosses and we are looking at elite and novice racing classes analagous to the Novice/Open gundog tests and other suggestions.

Regarding the whippet controversy I have not only read many of the useful suggestions on the forums but also consulted widely with people who race. I am meeting the Rosscrea Club next week to finalise arrangements for Birr and at that stage I will post how we will deal with whippet racing at Birr and in future at our events at Ballywalter and Shanes Castle.

Albert

 

[Nellie]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

Nellie,

Sorry I haven't been back on the forum to corrrespond except to arrange a little sponsorship for a show run for a very worthy cause. I decided to take a few days off and enjoy training my own dogs!

The whippet debate does not have a lot to do with the Master McGrath which of course did generate a great deal of positive publicity for lurchers and will start again with the firsr heat being run at the Irish Game & Country Fair at Birr Castle on Saturday 27th August. Our definition of a lurcher for the Master Mc Grath is as it has always been any crossbred greyhound. We have taken the point that tightly bred 'racing lurcher' types have an advantage over other outcrosses and we are looking at elite and novice racing classes analagous to the Novice/Open gundog tests and other suggestions.

Regarding the whippet controversy I have not only read many of the useful suggestions on the forums but also consulted widely with people who race. I am meeting the Rosscrea Club next week to finalise arrangements for Birr and at that stage I will post how we will deal with whippet racing at Birr and in future at our events at Ballywalter and Shanes Castle.

Albert

Your definition of a lurcher is incorrect Albert, a lurcher is defined as a running dogxworking dog ie collie,terrier or even gundog :thumbsup: a hound xhound is a longdog NOT a lurcher :angry:

Why consult the people who race?and not the working lurcher owners? These are the people that have the dogs your trying to promote

I've asked before why you dont race your retrievers at trials?

Suggestion Albert carry on with the Master McGrath by all means but include in it a bit of retrieving? a blinde stay? and a jump/obstacle to go over and mark them overall to get a working winner, a working lurcher should be able to do these disciplines in a days work :blink:

 

[rodders]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

Nellie,

Sorry I haven't been back on the forum to corrrespond except to arrange a little sponsorship for a show run for a very worthy cause. I decided to take a few days off and enjoy training my own dogs!

The whippet debate does not have a lot to do with the Master McGrath which of course did generate a great deal of positive publicity for lurchers and will start again with the firsr heat being run at the Irish Game & Country Fair at Birr Castle on Saturday 27th August. Our definition of a lurcher for the Master Mc Grath is as it has always been any crossbred greyhound. We have taken the point that tightly bred 'racing lurcher' types have an advantage over other outcrosses and we are looking at elite and novice racing classes analagous to the Novice/Open gundog tests and other suggestions.

Regarding the whippet controversy I have not only read many of the useful suggestions on the forums but also consulted widely with people who race. I am meeting the Rosscrea Club next week to finalise arrangements for Birr and at that stage I will post how we will deal with whippet racing at Birr and in future at our events at Ballywalter and Shanes Castle.

Albert

Your definition of a lurcher is incorrect Albert, a lurcher is defined as a running dogxworking dog ie collie,terrier or even gundog :thumbsup: a hound xhound is a longdog NOT a lurcher :angry:

Why consult the people who race?and not the working lurcher owners? These are the people that have the dogs your trying to promote

I've asked before why you dont race your retrievers at trials?

Suggestion Albert carry on with the Master McGrath by all means but include in it a bit of retrieving? a blinde stay? and a jump/obstacle to go over and mark them overall to get a working winner, a working lurcher should be able to do these disciplines in a days work :blink:

I must have missed something,thought this topic was about defining a whippet.Thought the Master McGrath Challenge was a 'race' not an obedience competition. Thats a whole new ball game Nellie.Perhaps they could do some obedience comps at each show,with the top dogs going onto some field trials.Maybe you could invite the winners over here,and you could judge them on live game.Reads like you have some knowledge in this field :-

 

[AlbertJ]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

Nellie,

Sorry I haven't been back on the forum to corrrespond except to arrange a little sponsorship for a show run for a very worthy cause. I decided to take a few days off and enjoy training my own dogs!

The whippet debate does not have a lot to do with the Master McGrath which of course did generate a great deal of positive publicity for lurchers and will start again with the firsr heat being run at the Irish Game & Country Fair at Birr Castle on Saturday 27th August. Our definition of a lurcher for the Master Mc Grath is as it has always been any crossbred greyhound. We have taken the point that tightly bred 'racing lurcher' types have an advantage over other outcrosses and we are looking at elite and novice racing classes analagous to the Novice/Open gundog tests and other suggestions.

Regarding the whippet controversy I have not only read many of the useful suggestions on the forums but also consulted widely with people who race. I am meeting the Rosscrea Club next week to finalise arrangements for Birr and at that stage I will post how we will deal with whippet racing at Birr and in future at our events at Ballywalter and Shanes Castle.

Albert

Your definition of a lurcher is incorrect Albert, a lurcher is defined as a running dogxworking dog ie collie,terrier or even gundog :thumbsup: a hound xhound is a longdog NOT a lurcher :angry:

Why consult the people who race?and not the working lurcher owners? These are the people that have the dogs your trying to promote

I've asked before why you dont race your retrievers at trials?

Suggestion Albert carry on with the Master McGrath by all means but include in it a bit of retrieving? a blinde stay? and a jump/obstacle to go over and mark them overall to get a working winner, a working lurcher should be able to do these disciplines in a days work :blink:

Nellie,

You are correct I was responding on the basis that there were claims that some people were running pure bred greyhounds - and I was saying that what we consider that a greyhound cross is a lurcher. You are of course correct that any long dog cross can be considered a lurcher.

I have effectively have 'raced 'my retrievers in scurries - my first golden won quite a few including in Scotland but if I have one good enough I do aim at tests and then trials. I debut my latest one next week!

We have been working on some ideas for obedience demos/ competitions so perhaps next year you will be able to show what you can do!

Albert

 

[dazgail]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

Nellie,

Sorry I haven't been back on the forum to corrrespond except to arrange a little sponsorship for a show run for a very worthy cause. I decided to take a few days off and enjoy training my own dogs!

The whippet debate does not have a lot to do with the Master McGrath which of course did generate a great deal of positive publicity for lurchers and will start again with the firsr heat being run at the Irish Game & Country Fair at Birr Castle on Saturday 27th August. Our definition of a lurcher for the Master Mc Grath is as it has always been any crossbred greyhound. We have taken the point that tightly bred 'racing lurcher' types have an advantage over other outcrosses and we are looking at elite and novice racing classes analagous to the Novice/Open gundog tests and other suggestions.

Regarding the whippet controversy I have not only read many of the useful suggestions on the forums but also consulted widely with people who race. I am meeting the Rosscrea Club next week to finalise arrangements for Birr and at that stage I will post how we will deal with whippet racing at Birr and in future at our events at Ballywalter and Shanes Castle.

Albert

Your definition of a lurcher is incorrect Albert, a lurcher is defined as a running dogxworking dog ie collie,terrier or even gundog :thumbsup: a hound xhound is a longdog NOT a lurcher :angry:

Why consult the people who race?and not the working lurcher owners? These are the people that have the dogs your trying to promote

I've asked before why you dont race your retrievers at trials?

Suggestion Albert carry on with the Master McGrath by all means but include in it a bit of retrieving? a blinde stay? and a jump/obstacle to go over and mark them overall to get a working winner, a working lurcher should be able to do these disciplines in a days work :blink:

LOL!!!! Quite a few of those who race their lurchers work them also. No need to be prejudice toward all those who race their lurchers.

 

[dazgail]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

Nellie,

Sorry I haven't been back on the forum to corrrespond except to arrange a little sponsorship for a show run for a very worthy cause. I decided to take a few days off and enjoy training my own dogs!

The whippet debate does not have a lot to do with the Master McGrath which of course did generate a great deal of positive publicity for lurchers and will start again with the firsr heat being run at the Irish Game & Country Fair at Birr Castle on Saturday 27th August. Our definition of a lurcher for the Master Mc Grath is as it has always been any crossbred greyhound. We have taken the point that tightly bred 'racing lurcher' types have an advantage over other outcrosses and we are looking at elite and novice racing classes analagous to the Novice/Open gundog tests and other suggestions.

Regarding the whippet controversy I have not only read many of the useful suggestions on the forums but also consulted widely with people who race. I am meeting the Rosscrea Club next week to finalise arrangements for Birr and at that stage I will post how we will deal with whippet racing at Birr and in future at our events at Ballywalter and Shanes Castle.

Albert

Your definition of a lurcher is incorrect Albert, a lurcher is defined as a running dogxworking dog ie collie,terrier or even gundog :thumbsup: a hound xhound is a longdog NOT a lurcher :angry:

Why consult the people who race?and not the working lurcher owners? These are the people that have the dogs your trying to promote

I've asked before why you dont race your retrievers at trials?

Suggestion Albert carry on with the Master McGrath by all means but include in it a bit of retrieving? a blinde stay? and a jump/obstacle to go over and mark them overall to get a working winner, a working lurcher should be able to do these disciplines in a days work :blink:

LOL!!!! Quite a few of those who race their lurchers work them also. No need to be prejudice toward all those who race their lurchers.

 

[Nellie]

OK Albert you've got several replies to your opening post :thumbsup: and no acknowledgement from yourself since. :thumbsup: So what would you define as a lurcher after reading these replies? Please :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

No reply from Albert :unsure: are nt the replies to your liking Albert?

You were told that this would be the outcome very soon after you launched your "Master McGrath Challenge" and what good has it done to raise the profile of lurchers? As you stated thats what you wanted to do with this competition putting something back into lurchers?

Nellie,

Sorry I haven't been back on the forum to corrrespond except to arrange a little sponsorship for a show run for a very worthy cause. I decided to take a few days off and enjoy training my own dogs!

The whippet debate does not have a lot to do with the Master McGrath which of course did generate a great deal of positive publicity for lurchers and will start again with the firsr heat being run at the Irish Game & Country Fair at Birr Castle on Saturday 27th August. Our definition of a lurcher for the Master Mc Grath is as it has always been any crossbred greyhound. We have taken the point that tightly bred 'racing lurcher' types have an advantage over other outcrosses and we are looking at elite and novice racing classes analagous to the Novice/Open gundog tests and other suggestions.

Regarding the whippet controversy I have not only read many of the useful suggestions on the forums but also consulted widely with people who race. I am meeting the Rosscrea Club next week to finalise arrangements for Birr and at that stage I will post how we will deal with whippet racing at Birr and in future at our events at Ballywalter and Shanes Castle.

Albert

Your definition of a lurcher is incorrect Albert, a lurcher is defined as a running dogxworking dog ie collie,terrier or even gundog :thumbsup: a hound xhound is a longdog NOT a lurcher :angry:

Why consult the people who race?and not the working lurcher owners? These are the people that have the dogs your trying to promote

I've asked before why you dont race your retrievers at trials?

Suggestion Albert carry on with the Master McGrath by all means but include in it a bit of retrieving? a blinde stay? and a jump/obstacle to go over and mark them overall to get a working winner, a working lurcher should be able to do these disciplines in a days work :blink:

Nellie,

You are correct I was responding on the basis that there were claims that some people were running pure bred greyhounds - and I was saying that what we consider that a greyhound cross is a lurcher. You are of course correct that any long dog cross can be considered a lurcher.

I have effectively have 'raced 'my retrievers in scurries - my first golden won quite a few including in Scotland but if I have one good enough I do aim at tests and then trials. I debut my latest one next week!

We have been working on some ideas for obedience demos/ competitions so perhaps next year you will be able to show what you can do!

Albert

I Stated that a lurcher and a longdog are 2 distinct types, a lurcher is bred to work :thumbsup: a longdog is bred to run due to both parents being hounds. Now correct me if Im wrong but was nt the Master McGrath mean't to raise the profile of lurchers?

Well done on your success in the scurries :thumbsup: Once again feel free to correct me scurries involve dummies and working dogs retrieve them as they would retrieve game out in the field? Thus showing what they are capable of doing out in the field, not really a straight race to find the fastest dog after a bag/lure

So will these obedience demos/competitions be incorperated into the Master McGrath to raise the profile and show that lurhers are not one trick ponys

Good Luck next week :thumbsup:

 

[Nellie]

LOL!!!! Quite a few of those who race their lurchers work them also. No need to be prejudice toward all those who race their lurchers.

Well aware of that daz so it should nt be a problem for them to let it be seen what they can do out in the field at a show in competition as I suggested

 

[dazgail]

Well aware of that daz so it should nt be a problem for them to let it be seen what they can do out in the field at a show in competition as I suggested

I wouldn't see it being a problem if the time was spent on training the dogs. I am confused though why this would be introduced into the Master McGrath as is was to find the fastest lurcher. It would be interesting though if an obedience test was run at the lurcher shows how much of an interest it would generate. I also wonder what percentage of the working lurchers at the shows would pass the tests you've mentioned?

 

[Nellie]

Well aware of that daz so it should nt be a problem for them to let it be seen what they can do out in the field at a show in competition as I suggested

I wouldn't see it being a problem if the time was spent on training the dogs. I am confused though why this would be introduced into the Master McGrath as is was to find the fastest lurcher. It would be interesting though if an obedience test was run at the lurcher shows how much of an interest it would generate. I also wonder what percentage of the working lurchers at the shows would pass the tests you've mentioned?

I would nt expect it to be a problem to any working lurcher :thumbsup: Why the fastest lurcher? In my experience fast= more injuries, I suggest having the obedience as tasks in the Master McGrath to show what a lurcher can do beside run flat out now that would raise the profile of the lurcher

 

[rodders]

I would nt expect it to be a problem to any working lurcher

:lol: Then the comp could become,'Spot the working lurcher' at a show.Know of a few obedience trained dogs in the past,that haven't done any work in the field. :- Doesn't take that much to train a collie cross to do all obedience work,but doesn't mean it's worked on live game ? At the end of the day an obedience competition is another way of showing what a lurcher can do.Just as it is racing it behind a lure to simulate it chasing live game.Leave the Master McGrath for the racing.I think Albert as said he's looking into doing some form of obedience comps in the future.Think it would all depend on how much interest would be shown in folk taking part