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[Skinnydog]

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I know the feeling Boom - been there as well! Got myself a 1/4 Bedlington pup last year and was faced with THE DECISION . There were two bitches left and although I knew which was the one for me, I found it hard to resist the boot button eyes of the sister. Nevertheless, resist I did ...........for a while. Eventually I went back for the other one and fortunately she had not yet been sold (w00t) :- " :sweating: :luck:

It seems to be going well in terms of the training etc and I don't regret one bit getting two pups at the same time. They keep eachother amused, exercised- they run eachother ragged- and give eachother companionship during the day. Obviously its harder work in one way as you have to take them out seperately for training sessions but I like doing it anyway so its not a prob'!

By the way Beddies are superb dogs 8) First time i've had this x and think they are great companions and hunters. Be warned though- you'll split your sides, the antics are endless (w00t) :rant: :teehee: :lol:

:cheers:

 

[boom]

lol bappit i have a playstation and a xbox :lol:

BTW you put ( at an early age you were better placed in an environment where you understood the forces of nature ) is that from a starwars movie :lol: :teehee: :lol: jk m8 good point

skinnydog ...

i thought about goin back for the sister of the lil puppy i got now but i would like a different puppy and beddie x whippet hehe

and with what you say i'm 3 steps closer to getting 1 :lol: cheers for the post m8

made me think more lol

 

[lurcherboy]

i kept 2 pups out a litter i bred and althought they have taken to training really well i dont think i would have two pups at the same time again no matter what you are splitting the time beetween both dogs and the bond with you and the dog will never be what it could with just the one pup getting all your time just my opinion . ok if you wer keeping them as pets but with a working lurcher u want the bond to be a strong as possible it makes things like retrieveing so much easyer

 

[boom]

i allso just read that i you should not bring two pups up at the same time

cus the pups will ignor you cos thay got each other ( till feeding time ) lol

i think i will wait till my pups older before i get another ...

 

[DOXHOPE]

Meg here can see the funny side of some of these posts, OR, is the pup just tickling her

 

[bappit]

Meg, Scottish by genetics can see the funny side of anything...even her master :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[boom]

DOXHOPE

i meant two pups at the same time.... not a adult and a pup

i read the hole bringing two dogs up thing on a leaflet i got from the vets .....

anyway i shall wait till my pup is older then let the new puppy learn of the elder :cheers:

 

[DOXHOPE]

Wasnt refering to any particular post, just foung the pic and put it in...

Great idea though about your retrieving regime, many years ago after a young lurcher bitch Im had wouldnt retrieve, I decide to concentrate on my new pup and get it retreiveing great, I would teach the new pup with the other tied to the fence just watching, she must of like the idea of getting so much praise from such a task, and she began to bring back, once I spotted this, I concentrated on some serious training for her. I though she was too old to learn, but, no one is ever too old to learn, not even dogs.

I would avoid training two at the same time though, as in most cases it becomes a tug of war, retrieving is a one to one thing for best results. :thumbsup:

 

[DOXHOPE]

Hey bappit dearest,

are you insinerating I have a funny side

 

[OEH]

Great idea though about your retrieving regime, many years ago after a young lurcher bitch Im had wouldnt retrieve, I decide to concentrate on my new pup and get it retreiveing great, I would teach the new pup with the other tied to the fence just watching, she must of like the idea of getting so much praise from such a task, and she began to bring back, once I spotted this, I concentrated on some serious training for her.  I though she was too old to learn, but, no one is ever too old to learn, not even dogs.I would avoid training two at the same time though, as in most cases it becomes a tug of war, retrieving is a one to one thing for best results. :thumbsup:

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My first lurcher was very obedient about almost everything, except retreiving- she would just stand and look at me- you could see her thinking 'well if you threw it there you must have meant to, if you now want it YOU can go and get it'.

When I got my second lurcher she was much quicker at retreiving even though she was a year old when I got her.

I gave up on the first one as the second brought everything back anyway.

One day the second one couldn't see where the dummy I had thrown had gone and there was a little black flash and the first one went to get it and brought it back.

Now she'll bring anything back very efficiently....................... as long as the second one is restrained

 

[bappit]

No DOX, I was'nt burning to imply that....DEAR!!! :lol:

 

[Skinnydog]

It's interesting to see the differences in terms of retrieving in different dogs. As iv'e mentioned above, I've got two Beddie x litter sisters (14 months now)They both show promise but one definately has the edge when it comes to intelligence and 'go'. Skye, the one in question is slightly smaller and rough coated and displays the classic Beddie feistyness, Jet her sister is smooth coated and is more submissive and more immature it seems to me. As far as retrieving is concerned Skye is much more deliberate and consistent, whereas Jet can be a bit 'hit and miss'. She sometimes prefers to prat around and play with the practice dummy,running past with it etc. Skye will down and stay while I check out bushes , but Jet usually breaks and loses concentration. I am tending to put a bit more into Skye simply because she seems to show more promise - perhaps this should be the other way around ! I suppose that's part of the problem af raising two pups at the same time - you tend to favour one and don't put so much into the one that may need the most work.

 

[DOXHOPE]

Hi Skinny,

there is defenitly a variation in the retrieving abilities in different crosses. I had a line of lurchers that possessed quite a lot of deerhound in their genetic make up, the rest bearedie collie, and these animals always trained up easy. When at lurcher shows many times I won retrieving competitions, and in the field they would bring back everything they took. I could also send them out to pick up rabbits or hares that other peoples dogs had taken, but failed to retrieve. The first cross deerhound x greyhounds that I bred and kept on, were all natural retrievers, important feedback from those who had obtained my dogs, and who never did any training what-so-ever, reported that their dogs retrieved naturally, even on their first kills. All my working deerhounds did the same. Crosses like salukis, I have never seen a First cross saluki x greyhound retreive, saluki composites yes, collie crosses retrieve well, but the likes of Bedlington first crosses, they usually require a little more working on...never seen a "natural" but witnessed many carrying back. Remember one individual, a Bedlington x greyhound, a tiny thing, more what would be expected in a Bedlington x Italian greyhound, this dog nipped rabbits great, but would literally have to drag them back, but owner had put a lot of work with dummies etc. Again as you point ou well, even in the same litter there can be a varrying degree of what will be good retrievers, and those siblings that will be not so good. Some that will take to training well, and those who will need a little more time...Thats lurchers Im affraid, no two are the same, a reason that makes the OUR BREED so different to others, and probably more interesting to keep.

At least you are putting the required effort into your dogs, and are enthusiastic and competent enough to see the differences in the nature of your two dogs, and to compensate each of their trainging to suit. This grasp will eventually lead to BOTH your girls being competent retrievers I am sure, the usual danger in lurcherdom is the folk who dont put in so much work, and could have improved or trained their dogs, but wont. Your dogs are young, and you will find the benefit later, when the training you are putting into them now as a game, becomes an inprinted part of what is required from them when working adults, and settled down. I may have been a bit long winded, but this part of lurcher work havs always been important and of interest to me...I could never be without a working dog that did not bring back its prey...Keep us posted on how your two progress, I am sure there are others on here that would also be interested, especially those with Bedlington crosses... :thumbsup:

One of my early dogs carrying liquid refreshments for his dad, Yes I know bappit, I said I dont drink, but this picture was taken a long time ago, :cheers:

 

[Skinnydog]

It is interesting stuff alright ! The more I've watched my dogs the more interested I become! The Beddie sisters have shown differences along, for example, they have been taking the odd myxied rabbit lately,( live/half alive/dead/in advanced stage of decomposition etc) Jet brings them close in even in the presence of other dogs, but has to be approached and told to drop. Skye brings 'em right in ,and collie mongrel Moll (honourary lurcher - raised with 'em, thinks she is one - )snaps and worries at them and shows absolutely no instinct to bring them to me at all. Skye and Jet come from working parents/ grandparents, so it doesn't surprise me that its' 'all there'. Angus (recently rescued Deerhound/Saluki about 18 months old) is, well, ....crap at everything bar running very fast. Not to worry though he's a bonny lad. he'll just have to be decorative I think! 8)

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[Skinnydog]

....But just to add that I think with Angus there is a lot of the Saluki selective deafness plus the fact that he has got into bad habits. I am only just managing to get his recall up to scratch. But - he IS a rescue and I think he is worth a bit of work!

 

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....But just to add that I think with Angus there is a lot of the Saluki selective deafness plus the fact that he has got into bad habits.  I am only just managing to get his recall up to scratch.  But - he IS a rescue and I think he is worth a bit of work!

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all dogs are worth a bit of work m8