Dual Sired Litter - Some Results!!!

[sdwhippets]

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Well - we got the DNA profile's back on 2 of the parti colored girls (Cadence & Aaliyah) which were actually the second set of pups we sent in. So we should have Aurora and Landis' back any day.

This is Cadence taken last week - she is sired by QUINCY

This is Aaliyah taken last week - she is sired by QUINCY

And since we are sure all the solid pups are sired by Quincy, I really hope Aurora and/or Landis are sired by Brooks so atleast we got pups from both boys. We should get their DNA back any day.

Anyways, Aurora left to her new home last Friday with Alex Smith - he has renamed her Belle, so here is Alex and Belle the day they left.

Krys

 

[affieluver]

bless them they are so sweet :wub: :wub: looks like you have one happy new owner there :thumbsup:

 

[AnnSa]

They are beautiful :wub:

I hope you get the results you want :luck:

 

[peppermint lady]

how exciting waiting for the results (w00t)

cant wait to see who is the daddy of the others :huggles:

 

[maggiemay2]

awwwwwwwwww they are beautiful.....

can we see pictures of dad again please, i been trying to find the thread with the two possible dads on it but cant seem to find it...

 

[sdwhippets]

Here are the parents again...

Momma Dido

Quincy

Brooks

 

[bluesky]

Dido is very pretty and quincy andBrooks are very handsome :wub: :wub: :wub:

 

[sdwhippets]

For those of you interested in the DNA profile's - this is what they each look like (Brooks and Quincy are the potential fathers, Dido is the mother and Aaliyah & Cadence are the two we just got DNA back on)

Brooks

BC NN AA EF DD CG DF BB BC BB GL EE BD XY

Quincy

CG JL AA FF CC CG FF BB CG BB DD EE BE XY

Dido

CC NN AA EF DD CG CC BB BC BB LL CF DE XX

Aaliyah

CG LN AA EF CD CG CF BB BC BB DL EF DE XX

Cadence

CG JN AA EF CD CG CF BB BG BB DL EF DE XX

The letters won't want to learn up perfectly but you get the idea. Okay so a parent HAS to contribute a letter in each column. In the very first one.... Quincy is the only dog in the parent triangle with a "G"..... as both pups have a "G", they have to be his. Since Brooks and Dido both have NN as their second column, then any puppies that come back with NN in their second column would be sired by Brooks as Quincy has no N's in his second column. So that is what I will look for first when I get the next batch in the post office, if the pups have NN for their second column then they are Brooks, if not they are Quincy's. So atleast I can figure it out then and there and not have to wait to drive home and put them all together.

Krys

 

[peppermint lady]

:wacko: :wacko: il take your word for it (w00t) :lol:

 

[Isilwane]

Thanks for the updates Krys - I have just whelped a dual sired litter in Australia (see topic about "Electra's Pups"), so look forward to getting the results down the track. It is very interesting, will be watching to see what your next resulsts are.

Lisa

Isilwane Kennels

 

[Macha]

It's very interesting, but I expect that in most cases the pups will all have the same sire so deliberate dual-sire matings don't sound like a good idea to me. IF double matings like this DO result in pups by both sires, that might also mean that bitches are likely to have larger litters (all the available egss are fertilised) which would be good either? Also you'd have to be very careful that the DNA samples don't get mixed up. Are you required to microchip the pups at an early age?

I'd be interested to know of research into the likelihood of more than one dog successfully breeding with a bitch at the same season. I do know it's possible but would think that in MOST cases one dog's sperm reaches all the eggs?

Anxiously awaiting the results on your pups, but also interested in the wider picture.

 

[Judy]

It's very interesting, but I expect that in most cases the pups will all have the same sire so deliberate dual-sire matings don't sound like a good idea to me. IF double matings like this  DO result in pups by both sires, that might also mean that bitches are likely to have larger litters (all the available egss are fertilised) which would be good either? Also you'd have to be very careful that the DNA samples don't get mixed up. Are you required to microchip the pups at an early age?
I'd be interested to know of research into the likelihood of more than one dog successfully breeding with a bitch at the same season. I do know it's possible but would think that in MOST cases one dog's sperm reaches all the eggs?

Anxiously awaiting the results on your pups, but also interested in the wider picture.

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The eggs are'nt all released at the same time but over a period of about 24 hours which is why it is possible for litters to have two sires.

Most eggs are fertilized anyway if a bitch is mated close to the time she ovulates so I don't think a dual mating will result in more puppies being born.

 

[meddling]

For those of you interested in the DNA profile's - this is what they each look like (Brooks and Quincy are the potential fathers, Dido is the mother and Aaliyah & Cadence are the two we just got DNA back on)
Brooks       

                  BC  NN  AA  EF  DD  CG  DF  BB  BC  BB  GL  EE  BD  XY

Quincy       

                  CG  JL    AA  FF  CC  CG  FF    BB  CG  BB  DD  EE  BE  XY

Dido           

                  CC  NN  AA  EF  DD  CG  CC  BB  BC  BB  LL  CF  DE  XX

Aaliyah     

                  CG  LN    AA  EF  CD  CG  CF  BB  BC  BB  DL  EF  DE  XX

Cadence     

                  CG  JN    AA  EF  CD  CG  CF  BB  BG  BB  DL  EF  DE  XX

The letters won't want to learn up perfectly but you get the idea.  Okay so a parent HAS to contribute a letter in each column.  In the very first one.... Quincy is the only dog in the parent triangle with a "G"..... as both pups have a "G", they have to be his.  Since Brooks and Dido both have NN as their second column, then any puppies that come back with NN in their second column would be sired by Brooks as Quincy has no N's in his second column.  So that is what I will look for first when I get the next batch in the post office, if the pups have NN for their second column then they are Brooks, if not they are Quincy's.  So atleast I can figure it out then and there and not have to wait to drive home and put them all together. 

Krys

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totally fascinating :thumbsup:

 

[Tesa]

Am I the only one here who is waiting patiently for more results???

Karen

 

[Vicky]

It's interesting stuff. Hope you get the results you are after :luck:

 

[05whippet]

Am I the only one here who is waiting patiently for more results???

Karen 

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As far as I know they are ALL sired by "Quincy". :thumbsup:

 

[Tesa]

Am I the only one here who is waiting patiently for more results???

Karen 

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As far as I know they are ALL sired by "Quincy". :thumbsup:

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Thank you for that. :cheers:

 

[seaspot_run]

Going back to see what I'd missed and found this thread.

Not sure where Krys is, but she did announce on the Whippet World forum that the whole litter ended up being sired by Quincy. Those Swede sperms could give Michael Phelps a race.

 

[Seraphina]

Going back to see what I'd missed and found this thread.
Not sure where Krys is, but she did announce on the Whippet World forum that the whole litter ended up being sired by Quincy.  Those Swede sperms could give Michael Phelps a race.

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Hmmm....interesting. Of course it can be just coincidence. Just like when you get whole litter of one sex, even that half the sperms carry Y chromosome and the other half X.