Ear Mutilation

[Macha]

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shocking details at http://www.greyhoundaction.org.uk/iireland....html#moreMutil

http://www.greyhoundaction.org.uk/iirelandnewsnews.html#s1

at least attempts are being made to care for the dogs and to track down the abusers

 

[Zephyr]

Words fail me - truly shocking - those poor, poor dogs and what they have been through at the hands of 'civilised human beings' :rant: :rant: :rant:

 

[Juley]

The look in the first ones eyes, so heartbreaking. :'( :'( :'(

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

how cruel

 

[wilfred]

it makes you weep, it really, really does.

Gill

 

[boothros]

These monsters are a disgrace to the racing world & shoudnt be allowed to own dogs or any other animals EVER End Of! :rant: :rant: :rant:

 

[nina]

I pray for the day that there is a TOTAL ban on this money making sport, because until there is this will happen continue to happen time & time again & these are the lucky ones.

People can say what they will about some racing owners & trainers looking after their dogs so what, its the minority if at all!

Either way they are bred to make financial gain & the ones that dont make the grade suffer & even those that do once their money making days are over they are turfed out or pts if lucky.

We have the audacity to call ourselves a nation of animal lovers!! I dont think so, money lovers maybe.

The plight of most racing greyhounds is no better than dogs bred for illegal fighting, theres barely any difference & both money orientated.

Roll on a complete an utter ban.

 

[clairej810]

I pray for the day that there is a TOTAL ban on this money making sport, because until there is this will happen continue to happen time & time again & these are the lucky ones.
People can say what they will about some racing owners & trainers looking after their dogs so what, its the minority if at all!

Either way they are bred to make financial gain & the ones that dont make the grade suffer & even those that do once their money making days are over they are turfed out or pts if lucky.

We have the audacity to call ourselves a nation of animal lovers!!  I dont think so, money lovers maybe.

The plight of most racing greyhounds is no better than dogs bred for illegal fighting, theres barely any difference & both money orientated.

Roll on a complete an utter ban.

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Well said Nina!

That's utterly sick! :rant: I'm giving my boys an extra big cuddle tonight! :huggles:

 

[jools]

I couldn't agree more Nina, those eyes will haunt me for ever.

 

[jue332]

I wish i hadn't looked :'( :'( :'(

 

[clairej810]

I forgot before but these people should have done to them what they do to their dogs but much more and see how they feel. :rant: :rant:

There's more like this on Greyhound Muses that is stories, poems etc about some of the stuff that can go on within the racing industry. Tissues definitely required!

 

[urchin]

I'm not sure i'd ban the sport - but i would certainly like to see it licensed and policed. It surely couldn't be hard to have a system where, in order to race, all greyhounds must be recorded (as they are now) - and owners made to prove LEGALLY what has happened to all greyhounds licensed to them who are no longer racing? Any owner who can't account for a dog should be presumed to have acted with cruelty towards it, and so be prosecuted and lose their license to race.

i can't see why this wouldn't be workable. Surely the decent owners (and i do know some very responsible ones) are already complying with the requirements and making sure their ex racers go to good homes...........and the sport can well do without those who would baulk at such measures.

i think the present system where racers are identified by ear tattoos, and there are no controls over what happens to those who retire or fail to make the grade............is kinda asking for the unscrupulous to do the awful things that have happened to those dogs on the links above. Ears are just too easy for evil (insert expletive of your choice) to mutilate...........

....just my thoughts on the subject

 

[clairej810]

i think the present system where racers are identified by ear tattoos, and there are no controls over what happens to those who retire or fail to make the grade............is kinda asking for the unscrupulous to do the awful things that have happened to those dogs on the links above. Ears are just too easy for evil (insert expletive of your choice) to mutilate...........

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Yep, you're right. There was a thread in whippets a while back about a Canadian guy who has started tattooing his pups on the inner thigh rather than the ear to prevent that sort of thing :thumbsup:

 

[nina]

Yep, you're right.  There was a thread in whippets a while back about a Canadian guy who has started tattooing his pups on the inner thigh rather than the ear to prevent that sort of thing :thumbsup:

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I dont personally think this would make any difference what so ever. Lets be honest what's the difference to these sort of people hacking off ears or a chunk of flesh out of a leg, stomache, neck wherever, anywhere a tattoo is.

Unfortunately they just dont care what kind of pain they inflict so i think where ever the tatto might be they would go ahead & do what they do regardless.

Same as microchips, its now i known thing for people who steal dogs to locate the chip either with a scanner or sometimes in the short coated breeds it can be felt easily anyway & they just go right ahead & hack it out.

I still say it should be banned, there are thousands & thousands of these poor dogs bred EVERY year & with the best will in the world if all these breeders were kind & loving people (which they are not) there would NEVER be enough pet homes to take the surplus & those whose racing days are over in a million years.

As for controls, how would they ever control the likes of the thousands of these poor dogs that are sent to spain each year to be raced & kept in appalling conditions? Once out of this country any control would be useless.

This is just my opinion but i really feel that these dogs dont ask to be born & live the horrendous life that they do then suffer the appalling consequences when they can no longer make money for their owners.

In this day & age to know that it is quite legal for this to carry on & that people go Greyhound racing for a good night out, having fun & winning money, when the dog they have just won £50 or £100 on could be having it's ears hacked off and being left to die a few weeks later if it hasn't performed as well makes my blood boil.

 

[*Caz*]

Yep, you're right.  There was a thread in whippets a while back about a Canadian guy who has started tattooing his pups on the inner thigh rather than the ear to prevent that sort of thing :thumbsup:

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I dont personally think this would make any difference what so ever. Lets be honest what's the difference to these sort of people hacking off ears or a chunk of flesh out of a leg, stomache, neck wherever, anywhere a tattoo is.

Unfortunately they just dont care what kind of pain they inflict so i think where ever the tatto might be they would go ahead & do what they do regardless.

Same as microchips, its now i known thing for people who steal dogs to locate the chip either with a scanner or sometimes in the short coated breeds it can be felt easily anyway & they just go right ahead & hack it out.

I still say it should be banned, there are thousands & thousands of these poor dogs bred EVERY year & with the best will in the world if all these breeders were kind & loving people (which they are not) there would NEVER be enough pet homes to take the surplus & those whose racing days are over in a million years.

As for controls, how would they ever control the likes of the thousands of these poor dogs that are sent to spain each year to be raced & kept in appalling conditions? Once out of this country any control would be useless.

This is just my opinion but i really feel that these dogs dont ask to be born & live the horrendous life that they do then suffer the appalling consequences when they can no longer make money for their owners.

In this day & age to know that it is quite legal for this to carry on & that people go Greyhound racing for a good night out, having fun & winning money, when the dog they have just won £50 or £100 on could be having it's ears hacked off and being left to die a few weeks later if it hasn't performed as well makes my blood boil.

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agree with what you say :thumbsup: its all down to the root of all evil....enough is enough... :angry:

 

[Lolcoe]

I pray for the day that there is a TOTAL ban on this money making sport, because until there is this will happen continue to happen time & time again & these are the lucky ones.
People can say what they will about some racing owners & trainers looking after their dogs so what, its the minority if at all!

Either way they are bred to make financial gain & the ones that dont make the grade suffer & even those that do once their money making days are over they are turfed out or pts if lucky.

We have the audacity to call ourselves a nation of animal lovers!!  I dont think so, money lovers maybe.

I for one think this is a less than informed opinion, rarely do the owners make money out of racing, rarely also do the punters make money out of it. A majority of owners/trainers just make ends meet in the sport and continue to race as a complete love of the sport!

 

The plight of most racing greyhounds is no better than dogs bred for illegal fighting, theres barely any difference & both money orientated.

 

Id say all greyhound litters are brought up with acres of land to run about and are completely happy, not all racing bred Whippets have such luxury and will be couped up in a small yard, are these owners bad people?

Roll on a complete an utter ban.

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[SIZE=14pt]Remember this would also apply to Whippets, you couldnt ban Greyhound racing and keep Whippet racing.[/SIZE]

 

Yes there are some mentally unstable Greyhound owners/trainers out there which need to be weedled out of the sport but tarring us all with the same brush i find completely offensive :rant:

 

[Mark Roberts]

I find a lot of these post offensive and feel that some have been posted just to cause bad feeling.

Greyhound racing has it's problems noone in their right mind would deny that but there are a hell of a lot of good decent people in the greyhound racing game.

it doesnt matter what sport you are in or what animals you are talking about there will be bad apples in every sport.

I once attended a blokes house who kept and showed Canaries (as well as running a pet shop) his birds cages were that deep in sh#t that they were sitting on sh#t rather than perches their nails were that over grown that they were twisting round on themselves? so because of him does that mean we ban everyone from keeping/breeding caged birds.

I for 1 am sick of reading these constant anti racing post by members who have little or no knoledge of the sport and the ones that are worse are those that post in agreement and have either never been to a race meeting or kennel.

No one would condone animal cruelty but lets keep things in prepotion, there are a lot of good hounest decent people in greyhound racing who care for their dogs and look after them after they have finished racing, not all greyhound owners are mindless cruel evil gits.

This Forum as with the rest of K9 is here to promote responsible ownership not a place for rescue's or anti racing groups to come on causeing bad feeling.

 

[nina]

Obviously my mistake but i thought the Forum was to put across one's personal opinion ?

Whether or not others agree is irrelevant BUT it then gives them a chance to air their opinion, hopefully in a mature way without throwing a tantrum :- "

I personally would like to see it banned BUT i'm sure there are other's that wouldn't & think its great & all the dogs are wonderfully kept & loved & looked after.

We all have different opinions & i feel just cos we dont all agree there is no need for hostility.

Perhaps it would be best in future if we all just agreed & went along with everyones opinions to have a nice very boring forum :thumbsup:

 

[~JO~]

We all have different opinions & i feel just cos we dont all agree there is no need for hostility.
Perhaps it would be best in future if we all just agreed & went along with everyones opinions to have a nice very boring forum  :thumbsup:

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I don't think anyone has been hostile - just because someone has decided to state their view doesn't mean they have been hostile to you at all!

The degree of sarcasm in your post is not helpful in the least to this topic

Well done Lolcoe and Mark for speaking up :thumbsup:

 

[Lolcoe]

The site that these pics came from arent as innocent as they make out. Have you not heard that the site in question buys Greyhounds and mutilates the dogs themselves just to make a pitiful story? Yes its known that that happens so why doesnt someone post anything about that.

Myself and my OH, Skippy do agree that these people that cause pain and suffering to greyhounds should be strung up but why ban racing? Yes thats your personal opinion but what you insinuated was that all Greyhound owners are bad people and make us that genuinly love our them for all their lives, out to be the baddies. Organisations such as the RSPCA were formed to help animals suffering so what does that tell us? That humankind are cruel to dogs no matter what breed they are!

I am yet to hear of a person that i know treats their dogs in a bad way, and after 17 years thats pretty good going. Believe you me if i was to EVER notice any wrongdoings i would be the first to speak up to the relevant authorities.

In no way was a tantrum ever thrown but i took onboard your comments very personally and felt that you were aiming them at people like myself who get tons of enjoyment out of racing Greyhounds. After all would you go into the Showing Forum and say that Showing should be banned? It is the same kind of industry that breeds and disposes of dogs that dont make the grade and i expect there are far more Show Dogs than there are Racing Dogs. I expect you wouldnt as you are aware of what actually goes on in showing and to dissaprove that would make you a hypocrite (sp?) But for people who have never been to a show (yes showing has its Animal Rights brigade) to turn and say its cruel and should be banned, would you agree with them as well, i mean i wonder how many show dogs get abandoned or pts because they are no good? No im not anti showing as i show myself :thumbsup: