Ear Mutilation

[Mark Roberts]

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The sad thing in loife is that those who think Greyhound Racing should be banned are the same type who wanted hunting banned the result being that last week 217 hares were shot on an Estate in Lancashire as with there being no hare coursing the owner didnt want them on his land any more.

if the anti greyhound brigade manage to ban Greyhound racing they have already stated that Fishing will be next.

WHAT HAPPENED TO LIVE AND LET LIVE

 

[Lolcoe]

And just to add the money side of it........an average Showbred Whippet will cost what? Around £400 upwards? An average Greyhound pup is far cheaper than that so who is out to make money in that example?? Remember it will take a bloody good racer to make any money, most just pay for their keep, not all!

I hope that i have set any myths about the racing industry straight and remember the saying 'pot calling the kettle!'

 

[clairej810]

The site that these pics came from arent as innocent as they make out. Have you not heard that the site in question buys Greyhounds and mutilates the dogs themselves just to make a pitiful story?

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I didn't know that - thanks for pointing it out! :thumbsup:

I don't think anyone was having a go at anyone on this site, I certainly have never said all greyhound racers / trainers are the same, there are some bad ones but there are more very good ones too. Yes, there are good and bad elements in all sports, not just greyhound racing.

Mark - I know you say you find some of these posts offensive - and I can see why, but please don't tar all so called anti racing people with the same brush by saying things like hunting, fishing will be next. That's a very sweeping statement and is as bad as saying all greyhound racing is bad (which is not true).

I think perhaps it's time to close this one?

 

[nina]

MY comments were directed at the "people" that inflict these atrocities on these animals.

If the cap fits, wear it, if it doesn't which i'm sure to many it doesn't then my comments were not directed at you.

I have not stated that EVERY single person involved in racing inlicts this kind of torture on their dogs BUT what i am saying is on the whole statistics show that there are thousands upon thousands of these poor creatures bred EVERY year, where do they all end up??

Who is accountable for them? For all those that dont make the grade or finish their racing days that just "dissappear" where do they go?

I know most of the rescues are full of them BUT this is not even a quarter of whats bred.

For those that breed minimally, look after their dogs & either keep or find loving pet homes for the surplus & the retired, i take my hat off to you BUT there are far too many who dont.

The poor dogs that have been found mutilated are only the tip of the iceberg for the thousands that disappear who knows?

If their lives come to an end on the owners premises who is to know? If they are buried within the owners land, who is to know?

Who makes checks on all these surplus & retired Greyhounds?

I'm sorry BUT knowing someone who worked at a racing kennels for many years there are too many question marks for my liking.

My opinion will always remain the same regardless as i'm sure yours will & i respect that. Please try & do the same & if something does not apply to you then learn not to take it personally.

 

[Mark Roberts]

banning greyhound racing would affect me personaly.

 

[clairej810]

banning greyhound racing would affect me personaly.

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Banning racing wouldn't work anyway - it would become an underground movement like dog fighting. Surely it is better to keep greyhound racing and monitor it rather than ban it and have no idea what happens after that?

 

[nina]

Banning racing wouldn't work anyway - it would become an underground movement like dog fighting.  Surely it is better to keep greyhound racing and monitor it rather than ban it and have no idea what happens after that?

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Well i think I know as well as you & most others that a ban is NEVER gonna happen BUT it was just my opinion of what i'd like to see. So best leave it at that :thumbsup:

 

[kris]

unless the greyhound industry regulates itself properly someone will step in and do it for them and they might not like the way they do it. :thumbsup: personally i think the sooner its banned and the sooner the dogs are treated like dogs and not money making racing machines the better.(purely my PERSONAL opinion,founded on the thousands of dogs bred each year that DONT make the grade and just disappear into the mists of forgetfullness)

 

[Skippy]

I think its now time to close this topic as both sides of the argument have been aired, but before I do, I will have the last word.

First let me make it clear I absolutely deplor what has happened the the poor dogs in the first post that started this thread. The people who did this need to be taught a lesson and the word castration springs to mind. These people are in the very small minority but still need to be weeded out of the sport.

I dont want to get drawn into a long and winded argument about the merits (or not) of racing greyhounds but I will pick up on one or two things that are totally untrue or an out and out exageration.

Firstly, Nina is trying to tarnish all greyhound trainers and owners with the same brush, but then says "oh no I didnt" when challenged. For the information of everyone her exact words were

"People can say what they will about some racing owners & trainers looking after their dogs so what, its the minority if at all!"

People can make up their own minds up if the "if at all" part means all greyhound owners/rtains are tarished with the same brush. but let me tell you actually its the vast MAJORITY who look after and care for their dogs in a way no other dogs are - not the minority if at all! as quoted.

I am a member of several Greyhound related websites and have seen these Ant-greyhound racing post over and over, and each time, the anti's have a rehersed script similar to the ones seen on here. Their claims about thousands upon thousands of greyhounds going missing each year is totally unsubstantiated and untrue - the Antis like to brandish these figures around to gain support without being able back them up or prove the authenticity of them.

It is members of the greyhoundaction website who consider it acceptable to put GLASS in the sand on a racing track with the only intent of harming the greyhounds - Yes, the people who want to ban the sport have put glass on a certain track I know. It is also members of the greyhoundaction website who consider it acceptable to issue threats to track management that they and members of their family will be harmed if they continue with greyhgound racing. It is also these people who dress up as Rambo - balaclava n all - enter a stadium and cause criminal damage - they dont have the guts to do it without the balaclava on - cowards.

Back to what this thread was started for (and thats the harm inflicted upon the poor dogs shown) The people who inflict this type of harm on the dogs are few and far between - the two articles mentioned are May 2005 and Apr 2006. Ring up your local RSPCA and ask them how many cases of animal cruelty they have they dealt with in the past year, and how many involved greyhounds - I put my money on Greyhounds being one of the lowest breeds they have been called out for.

So folks, make your own minds up if they should or shouldnt race greyhounds. I respect other peoples opinions but dont particularly want is shoved down my throat - if they think it should be banned - fair enough. One thing we are all united upon is this kind of abuse should not happen to these dogs, and I for one would report anyone to the police if I thought they were causing uncessary suffering (and thats to any dog).

And finally, if anyone wants to come and see how my dogs are cared for, my kennel is open for anyone to come and have a look around - you might be expected to have a sweeping brush in your hand and a can of Jays in the other, and then come with me on my usual 3 mile daily walk - but hey, its all part of the pleasures of owning a greyhound.