Early Pace Or Strong Finish

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Someone's probably beat me to it now.
This one gives me goosebumps, turn your volume up full and listen the crown when he changes gear.

Mark watched him at Belle Vue & Whitwood and said you couldn;t get near the track he had that many fans.

Gave me goosebumps watching that................what a dog!

 

[Vicky]

Just spotted my spelling :unsure: Crowd, not bloody crown.

 

[Fleesh]

Just spotted my spelling :unsure: Crowd, not bloody crown.

Well it is Friday night :sweating: , just tell everyone you're half cut :teehee:

 

[thesonofpork]

in greyhounds i prefer watching a dog come off the pace like the champ and recently the great westmead hawk, was even better for hawk he done it over 480m, but when punting i like a dog to be away and gone its easier that way!

 

[JOHNG]

i was at brough park when scurlouge champ smashed the track record brill dog.

nice to see these videos but it's whippet racing not greyhounds,

150 yds you cant beat early pace

early pace is only affective over a short distance (sprint)

 

[wild whippies]

id settle for this every time. :lol:
http://www.greyhound-data.com/play.htm?vid...%202006%20FINAL

So would we but we had to settle for a pup instead. :lol:

Back on topic,

Avit I think folk will agree is a dog known for early pace. I have to admit I find it a little frustrating to have a dog lead then get beat by a strong finisher than (I imagine) having a dog that comes from the back to win. Don't get me wrong it's nice to see your own dog lead all the way and win but it is definately more exciting to watch the one from behind power home at the end.

I think for early paced dogs I'd prefer the straights and the stayers really show their talent on the bends.

Which would I choose? Early pace dogs, mainly because they're usually strong powerful looking creatures and I figure I'll spend more days looking at them than racing them in their lifetime. :wub:

 

[Tony Taylor]

Anyone see Parliament Act race?

IIRC he still holds a number of track records for 2 bends.

There's not many vids of his racing but checkout those SPs on Ghd data

 

[racing]

i was at brough park when scurlouge champ smashed the track record brill dog.
nice to see these videos but it's whippet racing not greyhounds,

150 yds you cant beat early pace

early pace is only affective over a short distance (sprint)

surely greyhounds is a topic nearer to whippets than some of the rubbish you talk about on here x factor etc plus some of them whippets are bigger than gryhounds imo

 

[JOHNG]

i was at brough park when scurlouge champ smashed the track record brill dog.
nice to see these videos but it's whippet racing not greyhounds,

150 yds you cant beat early pace

early pace is only affective over a short distance (sprint)

surely greyhounds is a topic nearer to whippets than some of the rubbish you talk about on here x factor etc plus some of them whippets are bigger than gryhounds imo

i hope that post is not aimed at me personally,like i said i enjoyed watching the video's but still whippet racing straight sprinting 150/160 yards, if a dog lacks early on the bends it can be made up with a strong finish.

 

[sherry]

i was at brough park when scurlouge champ smashed the track record brill dog.
nice to see these videos but it's whippet racing not greyhounds,

150 yds you cant beat early pace

early pace is only affective over a short distance (sprint)

surely greyhounds is a topic nearer to whippets than some of the rubbish you talk about on here x factor etc plus some of them whippets are bigger than gryhounds imo

i hope that post is not aimed at me personally,like i said i enjoyed watching the video's but still whippet racing straight sprinting 150/160 yards, if a dog lacks early on the bends it can be made up with a strong finish.

thankyou john as MY original question was REGARDING WHIPPETS, when we talk rubbish about the X FACTOR it is in the X FACTOR THREAD

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

i was at brough park when scurlouge champ smashed the track record brill dog.
nice to see these videos but it's whippet racing not greyhounds,

150 yds you cant beat early pace

early pace is only affective over a short distance (sprint)

surely greyhounds is a topic nearer to whippets than some of the rubbish you talk about on here x factor etc plus some of them whippets are bigger than gryhounds imo

i hope that post is not aimed at me personally,like i said i enjoyed watching the video's but still whippet racing straight sprinting 150/160 yards, if a dog lacks early on the bends it can be made up with a strong finish.

personally i think this is a great topic either way and look forward to more replies what ever people want to talk about greyhounds or our own non peds.

 

[gary farmer]

Just to carry the topic on what do you look for in a greyhound when you are brreding it to a whippet

out and out sprinter

early pace

size

strong finisher

middle distance

long distance with big finish

or just well bred

how many races they have won

ive got my own views on this and would love to know yours

gary

 

[fra]

Just to carry the topic on what do you look for in a greyhound when you are brreding it to a whippet
out and out sprinter

early pace

size

strong finisher

middle distance

long distance with big finish

or just well bred

how many races they have won

ive got my own views on this and would love to know yours

gary

dogs times breeding & early pace.

 

[mck]

Just to carry the topic on what do you look for in a greyhound when you are brreding it to a whippet
out and out sprinter

early pace

size

strong finisher

middle distance

long distance with big finish

or just well bred

how many races they have won

ive got my own views on this and would love to know yours

gary

Going to say sprinter,size and well bred.Sprinting for the straights,size because of the new 55lb limit though you can never tell!!!and the breeding always helps to have good bloodlines. :thumbsup:

 

[Tommy_Carr]

Regarding grayhounds 4 crossing with whippets imo i think a good sprinter is ideal because sprinting is as far as we normally run with cross breads. I think u get the stamina when u cross w/pet g/hd as 4 breeding i don't think it really matters as long as the g/hd is a good sprinter and of m/dium size ull get small dogs with good early pace n a strong finish n m/dium n big dogs with the same

 

[Tony Taylor]

Just to carry the topic on what do you look for in a greyhound when you are brreding it to a whippet
out and out sprinter

early pace

size

strong finisher

middle distance

long distance with big finish

or just well bred

how many races they have won

ive got my own views on this and would love to know yours

gary

My thoughts were;

Cost: an open class ghd bitch isn't likey to be free to a good home. Any ghd bitch that's likely to be a first class brood for whippets is likely to be a first class brood for ghds and will be valued accordingly.

I wasn't over concerned that aghd bitch must have lots of early pace. I would hope the early pace would come from a suitable whippet stud and what whippets, especially those with early pace, tend to suffer is inability to stay. There's a school of thought that suggests 2 bend ghds aren't really sprinters but dogs that don't get the 4 and 6 bend distances. Using a ghd that doesn't stay to a whippet that doesn't stay isn't helping.

I'd try and pick an average sized bitch. Small ghds are abnormal and being small is possibly a sign of some genetic weakness. Lots of small ghds aren't competitive. ( I know some small ghds can do good time and will throw good fast smaller whippets) I'd want to base a few generations of whippet breeding on a bitch without faults.

 

[sherry]

i was at brough park when scurlouge champ smashed the track record brill dog.
nice to see these videos but it's whippet racing not greyhounds,

150 yds you cant beat early pace

early pace is only affective over a short distance (sprint)

surely greyhounds is a topic nearer to whippets than some of the rubbish you talk about on here x factor etc plus some of them whippets are bigger than gryhounds imo

i hope that post is not aimed at me personally,like i said i enjoyed watching the video's but still whippet racing straight sprinting 150/160 yards, if a dog lacks early on the bends it can be made up with a strong finish.

personally i think this is a great topic either way and look forward to more replies what ever people want to talk about greyhounds or our own non peds.

thankyoun graham i thought it was a good topic too lol :lol:

 

[sherry]

lining a ghd with a whippet wot wud i look 4? hmmm well it wud depend on how the ghd ran but as ghd runs the bends meaning they r longer distance runners id prob go to a good sprint stud which was also well bred but then again most whippets r well bred these days arent they?

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

i was at brough park when scurlouge champ smashed the track record brill dog.
nice to see these videos but it's whippet racing not greyhounds,

150 yds you cant beat early pace

early pace is only affective over a short distance (sprint)

surely greyhounds is a topic nearer to whippets than some of the rubbish you talk about on here x factor etc plus some of them whippets are bigger than gryhounds imo

i hope that post is not aimed at me personally,like i said i enjoyed watching the video's but still whippet racing straight sprinting 150/160 yards, if a dog lacks early on the bends it can be made up with a strong finish.

personally i think this is a great topic either way and look forward to more replies what ever people want to talk about greyhounds or our own non peds.

thankyoun graham i thought it was a good topic too lol :lol:

IT WILL DO TILL THE X FACTOR COMES ON LOL. (w00t) :teehee:

 

[sherry]

PMSL @ GRAHAM :lol: