Electric Collars

[DarrenG]

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whats peoples opinions on them?

should they be used as a training aid for whippets or not?

Personally I think they should be banned, most people who use them tend to have small person syndrome and this normally leads to needing to feel power over something, and are failures as dog trainers , you can be firm but fair without the use of such aids, infact if one of my mates used one I'd hang them from a tree by their ankles strap it to their balls on full power and give them a few blasts

 

[DarrenG]

crikey not one response I take it most of you think its ok then?

 

[Pennymeadow Whippets]

I think that anyone who has to use an electric collar on a whippet should not own whippets & they should have the collar fitted to themselves & be given a few jolts of electricity so they know what they are doing to the animal only a bad trainer or cruel owner would use one of these things on any kind of running dog

 

[springfield]

A local gundog trainer who has 6 dogs trained to 1 whistle told me its never the dog always the owner.

A No for me

 

[peppermint lady]

crikey not one response I take it most of you think its ok then?

this topic was on here a little while ago so thats prob why its not got many replies

 

[j.appleseed]

:angry: What a cruel and lazy way to train any dog.These collars should be banned and anybody using them should be made to wear one for a week or two.

 

[whippetfan]

I have never used one of these collars but I HAVE worn one and experienced what it feels like.

Set at the appropriate level, there is no "shock" - just a buzzing sensation.

As with all training tools they can be used appropriately and abused. I suggest posters try one out for themselves for condemning them out of hand. All uses are not necessarily aversive. The stimulation can be used as an attention getter.

Set higher they are used to deter barking. Sure beats surgical alteration of the vocal cords or a bait being tossed over the fence I reckon.

 

[DarrenG]

now actually you have your wires crossed

an anti bark collar set on minimum can still be felt but is only uncomfortable and whistles first as a warning, a training collar is a different matter and is extremely painfull and YES I have tried both on myself and it felt like getting baseball batted in the throat by the training collar and my throat hurt for a couple of days .

and what happens to the dogs that still dont perform as these idiots want them to?Those that end up as poor quivering nervous wrecks? Their braineds frazzled?

Ok everybody with whippets risks them getting hurt, a worker bitten a racer possibly damaging a tendon a lure courser hitting a pulley, but what sort of man or woman sets out to PURPOSELY hurt a whippet?

 

[whippetfan]

now actually you have your wires crossedan anti bark collar set on minimum can still be felt but is only uncomfortable and whistles first as a warning, a training collar is a different matter and is extremely painfull and YES I have tried both on myself and it felt like getting baseball batted in the throat by the training collar and my throat hurt for a couple of days . and what happens to the dogs that still dont perform as these idiots want them to?Those that end up as poor quivering nervous wrecks? Their braineds frazzled?

Ok everybody with whippets risks them getting hurt, a worker bitten a racer possibly damaging a tendon a lure courser hitting a pulley, but what sort of man or woman sets out to PURPOSELY hurt a whippet?

Next time turn it down.

Or don't wear it in the bath. :teehee:

 

[Whippets Rule]

hmm..I never liked electric shock collars but know a very respected veterinary surgeon who has been properly trained to use one and she uses it on her cross breed but only under certain circumstances....I know for a fact that it has twice saved her dogs life and i even witnessed the avoidance of a very serious RTA due to her dog getting a shock and coming back to her owner.

the dog was a rescue with a sad and terrible history and this vet was the difference between life and death for the dog in question.....what I witnessed and the training the vet was given in the use of the collar did make me appreciate that there are circumstances in which the collars are effective but only with correct understanding and tuition and probably only in very few circumstances......i haven't gone into too much detail here and I won't..suffice it to say I do not necessarily think they are a bad thing if used correctly....however i do not imagine there is a whippet anywhere that needs one.

I would add that i would not use one myself...no matter how naughty my dog was, it's not really my style, i'd rather not let my dog off lead where i cannot control it.

 

[LM1981]

I would never use one on my whippet but I do believe that they have there uses in some extreme circumstances.

My parents have two terriers, the male of the pair used to dig under or climb over the wire fence of their 2 acre garden and go running towards the road after walkers, cyclists, horse riders, well anything that moved really. We tried raising the height of the fence, digging it down further into the ground, putting rocks around the base, but with that much fencing he was always able to find somewhere to get out. He was becoming a real danger not only to himself but to people on the road. It got to the point we started looking for a new home for him however he is a lovely but very difficult dog and in the wrong hands would end up being PTS without question. As a very last resort my dad brought a fence and collar set, not holding out much hope for it, but it was a miracle. Boswell got 1 shock at a low setting and that was it instantly when he heard the warning beep he would move away from the fence. He has been a much happier dog the last 5 years as he knows his boundaries and is not constantly getting into trouble. The collar is now set to only emit the warning beep rather than a shock and even then it rarely has working batteries, yet he still stays safely in the garden.

Without doubt this sort of device should not be used for general training and all other options should be exhausted first, but in circumstances such as the above I would rather give the dog a little shock than have it hit by a car or cause a major accident where a person gets hurt or even killed.

 

[DarrenG]

would have thought a better fence be the answer

 

[Happy Humber]

Perhaps we could fit them to the local yobs.