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i have 2 bitches and one dog all cairn.terr. one of my bitches is 11 /13 days in seson, but wont let him near. she hasnt been showing blood for 4 days.and my other bitch also cairn started to bleed yesterday.

im no expert were not breeders but just want a litter of puppys.

why wont she let him do it.her tails up , no blood and its been 13 days since i first saw blood.plus my dog isnt proven but hes trying bless him. why wont she let him.does anyone think please

any info would be much app.

thanks.
 
i have a bitch that came into season 11 days ago thats when i first saw blood, the blood passed and now were on day 3 of he having no blood.i have a dog c.terr. not proven but she wont let him near,bless him for trying. whats wrong with these dogs.ps were not breeders we just want a litter.
 
I'm sorry if this sounds very blunt, but we put 10,000 unwanted dogs to sleep in this country every year because we breed too many dogs.

Unless you are breeding to maintain important bloodlines and improve the breed (and are prepared to take responsibility for every pup you breed for the rest of their lives), then please don't add to the problem.

My apologies if I've misunderstood and am way off the mark, but 'just wanting a litter of pups' isn't a good reason to breed.
 
FeeFee said:
I'm sorry if this sounds very blunt, but we put 10,000 unwanted dogs to sleep in this country every year because we breed too many dogs. 
Unless you are breeding to maintain important bloodlines and improve the breed (and are prepared to take responsibility for every pup you breed for the rest of their lives), then please don't add to the problem. 

My apologies if I've misunderstood and am way off the mark, but 'just wanting a litter of pups' isn't a good reason to breed.

of corse im responsable, i no that there lots of unwanted dogs. im not a puppy farmer. if i was i wouldnt be on this forum. we have some dogs/pets and want them to do whats normal, at least once in there lifetime. and as for not knowing were the puppys are going? we do, and would always take full resp. because we have space if needed and time for every dog we breed. im also sorry if if i sounded blunt.but were going to do this i just wanted to know if we were doing it rite. wouldnt want anything to happen to any of our lovely doggeys. thanks
 
cmenzies said:
i have a bitch that came into season 11 days ago thats when i first saw blood, the blood passed and now were on day 3 of he having no blood.i have a dog c.terr. not proven but she wont let him near,bless him for trying. whats wrong with these dogs.ps were not breeders we just want a litter.
Hi, I'm not a breeder so I'm afraid I can't give you the advice you need but it might be an idea if you post the age of your dog and how many seasons she has had. I'm sure there is someone out there who can help.

Good Luck :luck:
 
Have merged these two topics as they are about the same thing.
 
Hi

Sorry but if you dont know the basics on how to mate a pair of dogs I think you should really think again about having a litter.

A good way to start it reading "The Book of The Bitch" which tells you everything you need to know.

Do you not even realise you have to hold the bitch for the dog to get near her. By not doing so you could injure both your dog and bitch.

Please leave it to someone who knows what they are doing

Wendy
 
Judy said:
Have merged these two topics as they are about the same thing.
nelly is 2/12 and on her 3rd season. and billy is 3 and never been proven. i keep together most of the time.but keeping apart at moment cos hes trying to mount her 247.he was howling his little head off lastnite.but when we put them together she snaps at him and i dont want them to hurt or bite each other?.we love them too much to see them hurt each other.like i sed nelly hasnt show blood for3/12 days now.we olso have a older bitch poppey, and nelly keeps mounting her and vise versa so whats up with the dog billy?if we had any pupz they would go to family and friends who like our breed and want a dog .yes of course we want to keep the breed true so isnt it better to get one from me whos only going to do it once and not for profit,,or go to epupz or somwere like that,and if anything happened we would always take the pupz back if needed we have the time and space.plus we would specify that there wereNO BREEDING. on there papers. we our only wanting 1 litter and thats it. if i bring somthing into this world then i take resp.

like i would with anything else.
 
my uncle said when the dog mounts the bitch he mite get stuck and if so , hold the dogs tails facing for 15 mins is this so?.im going to breed them so can anybody give me any sound advice. ive looked in book/internet/asked people but too much info,like everything else on internet.thats why i am using this site.
 
just a suggestion but if you are certain you want a litter from this pair , then why not wait a couple of more seasons , thats just a year and learn as much as youy can about breeding and the care of the bitch etc, go and seek advice from cairn breeders too and see what the pitfalls are , have you got money set aside if things go wrong and she needs a c-sect? insurance doesnt usually cover this? have you time to potentially raise by hand a litter of puppies?

a yaer isnt long to wait if you are certain? and if these homes are also certain these are the dogs they want they will too wait til you are ready?

have you spoken to your breeder so see what advice they could give?

hope this is of some help :thumbsup:
 
cmenzies said:
my uncle said when the dog mounts the bitch he mite get stuck and if so , hold the dogs tails facing for 15 mins is this so?.im going to breed them so can anybody give me any sound advice. ive looked in book/internet/asked people but too much info,like everything else on internet.thats why i am using this site.

This has to be a windup right :rant: I really do hope so for these poor dogs sake (w00t)
 
talisman said:
cmenzies said:
my uncle said when the dog mounts the bitch he mite get stuck and if so , hold the dogs tails facing for 15 mins is this so?.im going to breed them so can anybody give me any sound advice. ive looked in book/internet/asked people but too much info,like everything else on internet.thats why i am using this site.

This has to be a windup right :rant: I really do hope so for these poor dogs sake (w00t)

certainly seems so :- "
 
posh totty said:
just a suggestion but if you are certain you want a litter from this pair , then why not wait a couple of more seasons , thats just a year and learn as much as youy can about breeding and the care of the bitch etc, go and seek advice from cairn breeders too and see what the pitfalls are , have you got money set aside if things go wrong and she needs a c-sect? insurance doesnt usually cover this? have you time to potentially raise by hand a litter of puppies? 
a yaer isnt long to wait if you are certain? and if these homes are also certain these are the dogs they want they will too wait til you are ready?

have you spoken to your breeder so see what advice they could give?

hope this is of some help  :thumbsup:

of corse shes insured and would be nearly 3 when she has puppys .if. ive already waited and tryed to learn but everybit of info isnt the same as id read in a book. so when are you ready.if i waited all the time id never get awt done .like i sed its not money i want for these pupz,just loving homes of people we love and trust, and yes i have money if anything goes wrong insurance too provided by kennel club. i only posted on this site cos its not seedy it a very caring comm. people you cud trust.-
 
cmenzies said:
posh totty said:
just a suggestion but if you are certain you want a litter from this pair , then why not wait a couple of more seasons , thats just a year and learn as much as youy can about breeding and the care of the bitch etc, go and seek advice from cairn breeders too and see what the pitfalls are , have you got money set aside if things go wrong and she needs a c-sect? insurance doesnt usually cover this? have you time to potentially raise by hand a litter of puppies? 
a yaer isnt long to wait if you are certain? and if these homes are also certain these are the dogs they want they will too wait til you are ready?

have you spoken to your breeder so see what advice they could give?

hope this is of some help  :thumbsup:

of corse shes insured and would be nearly 3 when she has puppys .if. ive already waited and tryed to learn but everybit of info isnt the same as id read in a book. so when are you ready.if i waited all the time id never get awt done .like i sed its not money i want for these pupz,just loving homes of people we love and trust, and yes i have money if anything goes wrong insurance too provided by kennel club. i only posted on this site cos its not seedy it a very caring comm. people you cud trust.-

thats what i mean. thats the stupid things people say ,its not a wind up, what i sed earlyer. this sounded barbaric the method posted above. so thats why i want some info.cos i dont think that is rite the method my uncle said and iwouldnt do this to my dogs cos i mite hurt them. ive read.
 
Can I ask why exactly are you trying to breed a litter? i.e. what is the overall purpose of trying to mate these two dogs? Why not approach an established breeder / stud dog owner of Cairns for some knowledge and advice?
 
wild whippies said:
Can I ask why exactly are you trying to breed a litter? i.e. what is the overall purpose of trying to mate these two dogs? Why not approach an established breeder / stud dog owner of Cairns for some knowledge and advice?
we have friends that were going to use epupz ect and we dont condone that site and others like it.so we were going to have only one litter, we said we would have one litter and so ono .isnt this normal. why so bad.we are not bad people and not breeders puppyfarmers we want a new puppy and so do 3/4 friends.please tell me whats wrong with that.you people who wants a old dog when they have children, isnt it best to let the dog grow up with the kids and v.v.so can everyone stop telling what i should do and tell me what to exspect.or have i to put them together and let n. take its course?.wont that be best.
 
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Hi

Have both the dogs you want to mate had all the relivant healthy checks done. I dont mean a vet saying they are healthy but the ones done to make sure they dont have any inherited conditions. I think cairns have eye and knee problems and need to be tested for that. I may be wrong but it is something you really have to look into before the mating takes place

If you are serious about this you really must get in contact with someone who knows what they are doing and can mentor you. What about your dogs original breeders. Have you checked your dogs pedigrees are compatable to each other?

Wendy
 
Your quite right Wendy, there's also the fatal Krabbe's disease (globoid cell leukodystrophy), Von willebrands, retinal atrophy etc etc all of which have been seen within Cairns.

No-ones trying to be arsey and tell you what you can do cmenzies but if you cannot even understand what dogs 'tying' is then I'm sorry but your not knowledgable enough to be breeding litters in my opinion, especially within a breed that is so predisposed to genetic diseases.
 
I have a job and work very hard I am actually on holiday at the moment. I also care very much for dogs and always help people who need it. But I honestly dont like your attitude and the way you have asked questions. I am concerned about your dogs and feel you are not thinking this through properly. Have you had them eye and knee checked and have the documents to prove they are ok for breeding. If your vet is so wonderfull why are you not asking their advice.

Sorry but it is people like you that give dog breeders a bad name,. You say you are not in it for the money but I think you are not thinking about your poor dogs.

Wendy
 
sorry but i think maybe you need to have a real good think, you have asked and people have taken time out of their day to give you answers and advice? whats wrong with waiting a year ? if these people all want one so bad then WAIT and do it right, no-one can tell you what to do but since you have asked for advice and it has been given then why get angry ?

read and learn and as been suggested a few times get in touch with an estabilished breeder of cairns and also the persons whom you got yours from and seek their advice too , it is not worth the risk doing it willy nilly, how would you feel if you brought an unhealthy litter into the world and all had to be pts??? i dont know of the problems in cairns but worth having a good look into the problems before going ahead, you say you want to do this right then please listen to whats been said :thumbsup:
 
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