Human Medication V Doggy Medicatin

[sharron]

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Hi all,

as you probberly now Zeb broke a toe this weekend. After speading £97 on medication and talking to maggie. It got me thinking about human medcation. What can you give whips and how much can you give them. :wacko:

any advice would be great.

thanks

 

[jayp]

Anything ibuprofen based is extremely toxic to dogs, as little as half a tablet can be fatal. I would stick to vet prescribed with additional homeopathic which is safe

and very helpful. Im sure your local health shop will sell the most popular, but you really need to ask someone more experienced for which to use and in what dose

Good luck.Jan

 

[whippynit]

sorry, slightly off topic re you Zeb - but i was wondering the other day if the human herbal/suppelment capsules are the same for dogs as humans?

i.e - evening primose, cod liver oil , etc? :unsure:

 

[Seraphina]

Look what is the active ingredient of the medication and see if it is also available for people. Then look at the amount of the active ingredient and then work the dose from that. I would also google the particular drug to find more about it, and consult my friends' medical books for any side effects and contraindications.

 

[boothros]

I believe that Salycilates (aspirin) are toxic to dogs also. The trouble is that we all trust the vet as if things go **** up as we can always sue them. A sticky on what is safe and in what quantity would be very useful. We are unable to sue each other & therefore though I sometimes really want to use a method or treatment recommended by someone on a forum, I am always loath to do so, as I am always worried that self medication may cause harm.

 

[peppermint lady]

what about calpol for children?? i dont no if that would be any good, just an idea...... :wacko:

 

[chelle123]

when my tess broke her leg i phoned the vet and becaues it was after hours we didnt know if it was broken or not and the vet wouldnt xray at night he recommend 1 junior asprin 4 hourly till he seen her the following day she was a 22kg lab/cross at the time

 

[hellybobs]

I give some human medication but only on the say so of my vet.

I've given aspirin before as it was during the night and was told what mg and how much to administer.

I given human rehydration treatment and cough mixture.

But I always ask the advice of my vet before doing administering anything.

 

[~Helen~]

I'd be very wary of giving anything without the advice of a vet. Many veterinary preparations seem similar but many are completely unsuitable for animals. I think paracetamol is toxic to dogs, although I have seen on other forums that some dog-owners give it with no ill effects. Please be careful.

If you're worried about cost, you can get a prescription from your vet and then access less expensive POMs online from somewhere like vetmedic.co.uk. That might be a safer solution for you :thumbsup:

 

[~elizabeth~]

Sorry to hear about Zeb :huggles:

Slightly different track, but I'd recommend if you have any injuries taking Zeb to Andrew Bartholomew in Cowley as he is the vet of choice to many of the top racing greyhound and racing/coursing whippet people.

His rates are very reasonable (we paid only £120 for x-ray, GA and re-setting Gelert's toe last year) and usually only charges half fees for follow-up appointments (and quite often charges nothing at all, especially if you've been 'good' :- " :b ). He certainly doesn't overmedicate and when he does the prescription costs are extremely reasonable compared to other local vets (the only additional treatment he advised giving Gelert was regular saline bathing/ice packs to reduce inflammation when started to put weight on his toe once the cast came off). The experience he can give regarding rehabilitiation will be excellent, Gelert is now back to competitive running after a very nasty dislocation/break. He's a national treasure, and right on your doorstep!

 

[telstar]

Get advice from your vet first :thumbsup:

 

[Tesa]

Am not sure about a dogs' reaction to asprin. I think I vaguely remember a vet recommending it for one of our dogs, but I wouldn't guarrentee it.

I do know for a fact that Asprin is fatal to cats. We had family member's that use to live in a remote outback tourist resort. It bordered onto a national park. They had a problem with feral cats attacking the lovely little yellow-footed rock wallabys. They use to lay out saucer's of milk with asprin in it, to deal with the cats. It was the only method of killing the cats that was safe on all the other protected wildlife.

 

[J.T.]

My Hebe had a dislocated toe a few years back & after the vet had seen it & clicked it back (w00t) I gave her Ruta Grav (homoepathic tablets) 4 times a day for a couple of weeks & she had no more problems with it at all.

Ruta is very good for fractures, dislocations etc. Just use a childs doseage.

Good Luck

 

[Louise_Simon]

My Greyhound has had 150mg twice a day for a couple of years now for a blood problem (prescribed by her vet) and shes fine on it.

 

[Seraphina]

Am not sure about a dogs' reaction to asprin.  I think I vaguely remember a vet recommending it for one of our dogs, but I wouldn't guarrentee it. 
I do know for a fact that Asprin is fatal to cats.  We had family member's that use to live in a remote outback tourist resort.  It bordered onto a national park.  They had a problem with feral cats attacking the lovely little yellow-footed rock wallabys.  They use to lay out saucer's of milk with asprin in it, to deal with the cats.  It was the only method of killing the cats that was safe on all the other protected wildlife.

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How did they know it actually killed them? Cats usually go to die somewhere remote anyway.

Overdose of Aspirin does not kill a cat on the spot, it damages some organs. But that is not unique to cats, they just need smaller dose. Dogs and human can also suffer damage if large enough dose over long period is given is given.

In any case I would not give dog painkiller, pain is a nature's way to keep creatures from using the injured limb and making further damage.

 

[whippet woman]

Hope Zeb's toe is healing up ok, poor thing, I bet it hurt, mine would shriek like hell if that happened, it is hard enough just trying to cut their nails.

I wanted to digress a bit on a different ailment: my old whippet really suffers from eye ulcers. She has had 4 ops (both eyes have been affected) after antibiotics which didn't clear them up. Some homeopathic medicine was very effective in clearing another one up (from a vet, not sure what it was-silly me), and I have kept them at bay for a couple of years with tea bag juices (of all things), which a whippet owner advised me to try, I reakoned it sounded fairly harmless and worth a try. I have also heard of this treatment being used for eye ailments in people. But she has got another one and it will not shift no matter how many tea bags I brew up and then douse her eye with the normally healing liquor, so she has antibiotic drops from the vet again.

Does any one else's whippet/sight hound get eye ulcers? Does any one have suggestions for keeping them away?

I didn't know about Andrew Bartholomew in Cowley, thanks for that info, as it is just round the corner.

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[fallenangel]

I have a greyhound who gets eye infections and use teabags infact i use teabags on everyones eyes firts sign of irration and 9 times out of 10 it clears within 24 hours even done it with our cats eye

 

[midlanderkeith]

I have a greyhound who gets eye infections and use teabags infact i use teabags on everyones eyes firts sign of irration and 9 times out of 10 it clears  within 24 hours even done it with our cats eye

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Any preferred brand wendy, tetley, typhoo, pg, etc :lol:

keith :cheers:

 

[kris]

talking of using human medicines on dogs and cats makes me wonder.after all most of them are tested on animals in the first place arent they :- "

 

[Seraphina]

talking of using human medicines on dogs and cats makes me wonder.after all most of them are tested on animals in the first place arent they :- "

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Yes, but mainly rats and rabbits. The problem is mainly with the dosage, you need to know how many milligrams per/1kg of bodyweight. It can be difficult to scale down if 1 small tablet is suitable for 70 - 80kg human, and some small animals may be more sensitive to the drug. But I would never administer anything that is not recomended for the animal - I am just talking about the same drug sold under different names.

I use cold tea to rinse my eyes if they are irritated, or place cold used tea bags over my closed eyes if they feel tired.