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midlanderkeith said:
fallenangel said:
I have a greyhound who gets eye infections and use teabags infact i use teabags on everyones eyes firts sign of irration and 9 times out of 10 it clears  within 24 hours even done it with our cats eye
Any preferred brand wendy, tetley, typhoo, pg, etc :oops: :lol:

keith :cheers:

early gray :D
 
Seraphina said:
Tesa said:
Am not sure about a dogs' reaction to asprin.  I think I vaguely remember a vet recommending it for one of our dogs, but I wouldn't guarrentee it. 
I do know for a fact that Asprin is fatal to cats.  We had family member's that use to live in a remote outback tourist resort.  It bordered onto a national park.  They had a problem with feral cats attacking the lovely little yellow-footed rock wallabys.  They use to lay out saucer's of milk with asprin in it, to deal with the cats.  It was the only method of killing the cats that was safe on all the other protected wildlife.

How did they know it actually killed them? Cats usually go to die somewhere remote anyway.

Overdose of Aspirin does not kill a cat on the spot, it damages some organs.

Thats' right Lida, it does not kill the cat's immediately. I think the asprins did damage to the organs and the cats would just die in their sleep. These feral cats were the main predator of the Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby. As these little wallaby's are a threatend species, local Rangers and staff (at Arkaroola) would monitor rock wallabay numbers in the area. I don't think they would have been to concerned about finding the cats bodies.

This was at a place called Arkaroola, it is on the edge of the Flinders/Gammon Ranges -a massive area to cover. Shooting and the milk and asprin was about the only weapons available to them. A slow death, yes, but a necessary one..

 
Tesa said:
Seraphina said:
Tesa said:
I do know for a fact that Asprin is fatal to cats.  ............They use to lay out saucer's of milk with asprin in it, to deal with the cats.  It was the only method of killing the cats that was safe on all the other protected wildlife.

How did they know it actually killed them? Cats usually go to die somewhere remote anyway.

Overdose of Aspirin does not kill a cat on the spot, it damages some organs.

Thats' right Lida, it does not kill the cat's immediately. I think the asprins did damage to the organs and the cats would just die in their sleep. These feral cats were the main predator of the Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby. As these little wallaby's are a threatend species, local Rangers and staff (at Arkaroola) would monitor rock wallabay numbers in the area. I don't think they would have been to concerned about finding the cats bodies.

This was at a place called Arkaroola, it is on the edge of the Flinders/Gammon Ranges -a massive area to cover. Shooting and the milk and asprin was about the only weapons available to them. A slow death, yes, but a necessary one..


I do not question the need to erradicate the ferral cats, or the method as a such. I wonder how did they know that the aspirin did kill them if they did not see the bodies?
 
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whippet woman said:
Hope Zeb's toe is healing up ok, poor thing, I bet it hurt, mine would shriek like hell if that happened, it is hard enough just trying to cut their nails.
I Some homeopathic medicine was very effective in clearing another one up (from a vet, not sure what it was-silly me),

Was it Euphrasia?

I've got some of this & boil it up into a tea which I then use as eye drops (once it's cooled down of course) for the dogs if they have sore eyes. It's very soothing, I've used it myself.
 
J.T. said:
whippet woman said:
Hope Zeb's toe is healing up ok, poor thing, I bet it hurt, mine would shriek like hell if that happened, it is hard enough just trying to cut their nails.
I Some homeopathic medicine was very effective in clearing another one up (from a vet, not sure what it was-silly me),

Was it Euphrasia?

I've got some of this & boil it up into a tea which I then use as eye drops (once it's cooled down of course) for the dogs if they have sore eyes. It's very soothing, I've used it myself.

Can't be sure J.T., but thanks for the info :cheers: , I will get some and give it a go as her eye is still very sore and the ulcer does not seem to be getting much better, poor thing :( . Is it easy to get hold of do you know?

WW

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Seraphina said:
Tesa said:
Seraphina said:
Tesa said:
I do know for a fact that Asprin is fatal to cats.  ............They use to lay out saucer's of milk with asprin in it, to deal with the cats.  It was the only method of killing the cats that was safe on all the other protected wildlife.

How did they know it actually killed them? Cats usually go to die somewhere remote anyway.

Overdose of Aspirin does not kill a cat on the spot, it damages some organs.

Thats' right Lida, it does not kill the cat's immediately. I think the asprins did damage to the organs and the cats would just die in their sleep. These feral cats were the main predator of the Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby. As these little wallaby's are a threatend species, local Rangers and staff (at Arkaroola) would monitor rock wallabay numbers in the area. I don't think they would have been to concerned about finding the cats bodies.

This was at a place called Arkaroola, it is on the edge of the Flinders/Gammon Ranges -a massive area to cover. Shooting and the milk and asprin was about the only weapons available to them. A slow death, yes, but a necessary one..


I do not question the need to erradicate the ferral cats, or the method as a such. I wonder how did they know that the aspirin did kill them if they did not see the bodies?

To be honest Lida we never talked about the bodies. Knowing how truely vast this area was (610 sq k's, plus the neighbouring national parks), and , knowing how they felt about the cats :nuke: , at a guess, I don't think they would have bothered to look for the bodies. Due to working with local rangers and the like, they knew the method worked. They relied on siting's of the cats from the tourist and staff as to where they laid the baits. The cats would also be game enough to come into the village to raid rubbish bins from time to time.

There were also feral goats with in the area. Because Arkaroola was privately owned they shooting was allowed. Something which the neighbourning Flinders & Gammon Rangers National Parks were not allowed to do. Staff were encouraged to go shooting on their day's off. Because of the baiting and shooting tatic's Arkaroolas Yellow-Footed Rock Wallaby population was on the increase, where as it was struggling in the Gammon Ranges.

Hope that answers your question Lida :)

here's a photo of the village It's about 300ks away from any other populated area
 
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For anyone interested here is a link to the Arkaroola website. Fasinating place. http://www.arkaroola.com.au/

This is Sillers Ridge, it is a couple of hours by four-wheel drive to get from the main tourist village to here, the view is worth every bump along the way :thumbsup:
 
Tesa said:
For anyone interested here is a link to the Arkaroola website.  Fasinating place.  http://www.arkaroola.com.au/
This is Sillers Ridge, it is a couple of hours by four-wheel drive to get from the main tourist village to here,  the view is worth every bump along the way :thumbsup:
That is maginficent!!! :)

The reason why I am asking is I knew somebody many years ago who gave their cat some aspirin when she was sick and had high fever, she survived unscathed and lived till ripe old age. I am just trying to sort the internet myth from the facts. But if it the rangers who recomended the aspirin, I would imagin they knew what they are doing.
 
Seraphina said:
Tesa said:
For anyone interested here is a link to the Arkaroola website.  Fasinating place.  http://www.arkaroola.com.au/
This is Sillers Ridge, it is a couple of hours by four-wheel drive to get from the main tourist village to here,  the view is worth every bump along the way :thumbsup:
That is maginficent!!! :)

The reason why I am asking is I knew somebody many years ago who gave their cat some aspirin when she was sick and had high fever, she survived unscathed and lived till ripe old age. I am just trying to sort the internet myth from the facts. But if it the rangers who recomended the aspirin, I would imagin they knew what they are doing.




Glad to hear your friends cat was okay Lida :thumbsup:
 
whippet woman said:
J.T. said:
whippet woman said:
Hope Zeb's toe is healing up ok, poor thing, I bet it hurt, mine would shriek like hell if that happened, it is hard enough just trying to cut their nails.
I Some homeopathic medicine was very effective in clearing another one up (from a vet, not sure what it was-silly me),

Was it Euphrasia?

I've got some of this & boil it up into a tea which I then use as eye drops (once it's cooled down of course) for the dogs if they have sore eyes. It's very soothing, I've used it myself.

Can't be sure J.T., but thanks for the info :cheers: , I will get some and give it a go as her eye is still very sore and the ulcer does not seem to be getting much better, poor thing :( . Is it easy to get hold of do you know?

WW

I got it from Weleda 0115 944 8222. It comes dried, just like tea leaves really & I add a bit of water & boil it for a couple of minutes, let it cool & use it as eye drops.

Hope it helps.

Julie.
 
Don't mean to lecture at all, but speaking from experience, don't give any human medicine of any kind to your pet without first checking with your vet. 99 times out of a hundred it might be ok but is it really worth taking a risk? We recommend human drugs when they're appropriate and cheaper from the pharmacy but I've seen more than one case where a pet has died due to its owner self-prescribing.

Aspirin is indeed toxic to cats as they metabolise the drug very slowly though we occasionally use it with extreme caution to treat a thrombosis. Quite a high dose is required to be fatal - 250mg daily for 12 days minimum (just looked it up!) which induces inflammation of the stomach, haemorrhage and vomiting. I'm not disputing the need to control feral populations but were I a feral cat, I'd rather be shot - a lot quicker and certainly a lot less painful.
 
Mary-Caroline said:
Aspirin is indeed toxic to cats as they metabolise the drug very slowly though we occasionally use it with extreme caution to treat a thrombosis.  Quite a high dose is required to be fatal - 250mg daily for 12 days minimum (just looked it up!) which induces inflammation of the stomach, haemorrhage and vomiting.  I'm not disputing the need to control feral populations but were I a feral cat, I'd rather be shot - a lot quicker and certainly a lot less painful.
In any case I doubt that cat would take as much in milk, aspirin is rather bitter. However, while cat needs less (per kg of bodyweight) of it to die, aspirin can kill any animal including human.
 
J.T. said:
whippet woman said:
J.T. said:
whippet woman said:
Hope Zeb's toe is healing up ok, poor thing, I bet it hurt, mine would shriek like hell if that happened, it is hard enough just trying to cut their nails.
I Some homeopathic medicine was very effective in clearing another one up (from a vet, not sure what it was-silly me),

Was it Euphrasia?

I've got some of this & boil it up into a tea which I then use as eye drops (once it's cooled down of course) for the dogs if they have sore eyes. It's very soothing, I've used it myself.

Can't be sure J.T., but thanks for the info :cheers: , I will get some and give it a go as her eye is still very sore and the ulcer does not seem to be getting much better, poor thing :( . Is it easy to get hold of do you know?

WW

I got it from Weleda 0115 944 8222. It comes dried, just like tea leaves really & I add a bit of water & boil it for a couple of minutes, let it cool & use it as eye drops.

Hope it helps.

Julie.

Thanks for that info, Julie, as I have not found any and her ulcer is still not gone (back on different antibiotic ointment from vets and another op pending if it doesn't clear up). I will get some ordered tomorrow.

WW
 

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