Int Ch Wingedfoot Hildegarde

[dawn]

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At the East Anglian Whippet Club yesterday Douglas Todd's daughter approached me as I made my way out of the ring. She said how much she thought Spider was like Wingedfoot Hildegard, her shape and the way she moved

so..............

when I got home I got Douglas Todd's book out and have scanned a picture of her and am amazed at the similarity!

What do you think??

 

[whippynit]

ah yes, but i actually prefer Spiders topline though :thumbsup:

 

[doris]

wow!!

Spider is just a bit more scrummy though :huggles:

oh yeah, better topline too :thumbsup: :lol:

 

[~JO~]

(w00t) Wow - yes Spider is just more of a 'modern version' :cheers: But amazing similarity

 

[Juley]

Wow, a modern day version. Hmmmmmmmm, did you get a cloning kit for Xmas??? :lol:

 

[whippetsrus]

Remarkable similarities.

 

[TC]

I meant to pm you the name :b (w00t)

It is amazing how similar they are, but like others, I do prefer Spider 8)

 

[Juley]

When was the other one born?

 

[seaspot_run]

Hildegard was from the 1950's.

I think that people who don't go back and forth and see dogs from both countries have some misconceptions. The US folks cut their teeth on the old Douglas Todd book with all the old Wingedfoot and Allways dogs in it, and the early Lagunas. So, most people think you need a small very short-coupled dog with quite an extreme topline in England and that's totally untrue as just as Whippets in the USA have changed a LOT in the last 50 years, the same is true of England. But these dogs were the best of their ERA and we owe them a lot and have to respect them for being our foundational dogs, and so it's neat when you see a modern dog who has modern virtues but contains echoes of the style and class of the dogs of the past. So, to that extent, I think that Spider is good modern example of the style of dog that Hildegarde was, but the UK now favors a longer-cast dog, with a less-extreme topline and croup.

American dogs of the past tended to be extremely leggy and upright in upper arm and almost stilted in the rear, and now they are not anything like that, and in the 50's we also had the more extreme topline and preferred a shorter loin. The style was quite different than the dogs of today but there were many beautiful ones who still show their influence in our modern stock. Hildegard was very classy, and we still talk about how beautiful Eng.Am.Ch. Wingedfoot Fieldspring Bryony was who was brought over, and it was a great pity she did not produce puppies, but she is still a dog we study who has influenced the taste of many.

Karen Lee

 

[JAX]

Sorry , but the only similarity I can see is the white body and coloured head markings :- "

WE dont compare all fawn/brindles to Ch Pencloe Dutch Gold , so why should we compare Spider to another dog just because they both happen to have the same markings . I do find this idea most odd :wacko:

Are we judging` colour `or `shape/type `